Manual Focus Nikon Glass
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georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

kwoodard wrote:
Seeing all these awesome shots the last few days got my mind all worked up trying to figure out how to get a D600. You folks are a bad influence, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

On another note, I was shooting an event this past weekend and my D7000 could not meter worth beans. Center and spot metering was hit and miss at best. Not sure what they did with the lights, but my camera was nothing but confused. So in about two hours, I worked through in my head how to really go all manual (shutter/aperture/ISO) to compensate for the pitiful light. I ended up with a few decent shots on the rear display, hope to see the results tonight on the puter. By the end of the event, I had muscle memory to change all three settings with my eye in the viewfinder. I was pretty proud of myself.


Kevin, manual exposure is the way to go for most stage-events (in my opinion). I've shot a ton of concert-, theatre- and other stage-events and can't imagine to work in A- or S-mode. Black curtains behind a singer for instance will confuse most cameras. Strong backlighting will do the same. Usually I try to find a "standard-exposure" (quick check for blinking highlights) and adjust manually by instinct, not by the meter, if the singer/actor walks into a less well lit corner of the stage (just an example).
Back in the film-days I've shot basically everything on stage at f/2.8 and a 1/250sec and just changed the developing time to adjust for more or less light ;-)

Edit: congrats to your PK-13! Can't wait to see your work with it.



jhinkey
Registered: Jan 08, 2010
Total Posts: 8411
Country: United States

CGrindahl wrote:
jhinkey wrote:
CGrindahl wrote:
I step away for a day and a half and suddenly we're talking about Voigtlander glass?

The natives must be restless... When you run out of Nikkors to buy, I guess you have to expand your horizons. Or in John's case, it is looking for the perfect kit that will fit in his backpack when he's scaling the peaks of Washington state. Clearly, Mihai has the problems with owning too many Nikkors... you can always send me the NOCT my friend... Lighten your load...



I know I know - us kids tend to get into trouble while adult supervision is not around - no more talk about such heretical things . . . .

Still hunting a 500/4 P - KEH has one right now for a decent price, but taxes are due next week

John


If you buy the 500 f/4 P, all will be forgiven...


My penance for having sinned!



Mishu01
Registered: Nov 20, 2009
Total Posts: 2444
Country: Romania

Thanks Kevin! You're very kind! I did some preliminary tests etc and in two weeks I have an appointment with the orthopedist to estabilsh which is the day of the first surgery. If I have to guess it will happen before middle of May but when I'll know for sure I'll leave a brief notice here. I'm encouraged to see people that I never met in person caring for such as situation. Thank you!

kwoodard wrote:
Mishu01 wrote:Curtis, I'm younger than you so my hips must be better but unlike you I spent almost 28yrs under communism. The medical system was a nightmare (it isn't very performing yet... but is somehow improved). While I was a student I was the subject of a bad medical error: doctors confused a banal rheumatic illness with hip tuberculosis. The mistake was discovered 10 months later after they almost destroyed me with a treatment that was against my real problem. It took one more year to start over but I was only partially recovered. Getting older things get worse and I came to that point were I need both hips to be replaced - one of them as soon as possible. I never got any material compensation for what they did to me and actually I fully pay my surgeries in a private hospital (because my medical problem is older than my private medical insurance, so it's not covered...) But I've learned to live with this situation, enjoying the good part of this life i.e. photography, family, friends, etc. And yes, I'm optimist regarding the surgery... despite the fact that I developed a real phobia regarding doctors, hospitals, etc

Wow! Take care and keep us posted on your progress. Sending "Get well soon" prayers your way.



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

Chuong, the portraits of your daughter are wonderful!

Peter, I like your "Brown-deer"-image a lot. How is the 200/4 Micro compared to the "plain" 200/4? The long Micro is a lens that seems to get not much attention here.

Mark, the bell in the cliffs looks very unusual - I like this shot a lot.

Jose, the second image of the Vesuvius-crater is fantastic. The fine textures call for a really high resolving image and the D7000+20/2.8-combo delivered.



Mishu01
Registered: Nov 20, 2009
Total Posts: 2444
Country: Romania

georgms wrote:
kwoodard wrote:
Seeing all these awesome shots the last few days got my mind all worked up trying to figure out how to get a D600. You folks are a bad influence, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

On another note, I was shooting an event this past weekend and my D7000 could not meter worth beans. Center and spot metering was hit and miss at best. Not sure what they did with the lights, but my camera was nothing but confused. So in about two hours, I worked through in my head how to really go all manual (shutter/aperture/ISO) to compensate for the pitiful light. I ended up with a few decent shots on the rear display, hope to see the results tonight on the puter. By the end of the event, I had muscle memory to change all three settings with my eye in the viewfinder. I was pretty proud of myself.


Kevin, manual exposure is the way to go for most stage-events (in my opinion). I've shot a ton of concert-, theatre- and other stage-events and can't imagine to work in A- or S-mode. Black curtains behind a singer for instance will confuse most cameras. Strong backlighting will do the same. Usually I try to find a "standard-exposure" (quick check for blinking highlights) and adjust manually by instinct, not by the meter, if the singer/actor walks into a less well lit corner of the stage (just an example).
Back in the film-days I've shot basically everything on stage at f/2.8 and a 1/250sec and just changed the developing time to adjust for more or less light ;-)

Edit: congrats to your PK-13! Can't wait to see your work with it.


+1

Actually all camera meters are driven into wilderness at concerts Actually like Georg I also use manual mode 1/250 f2 or f2.8 and AutoISO. I take a first shot and then I bring exposure corrections making sure to have the face of the main performer exposed right. Do not care about anything else, just check his face until you get what you need. If I go for what camera says I need to introduce at least -2 fstop correction in order to see the face properly exposed. Later on in the PP you can work a bit on the shadows if necessary. In very dark venues sometimes I'm forced to go up to 1/60 f1.4 but then is a PITA to take images without recording the movement of the people. Do not be afraid to have the superior limit of AutoISO set at 6400. Grainy images look nice, especially in comparison with blurry junk



mp356
Registered: May 31, 2009
Total Posts: 5639
Country: United States

kwoodard wrote:
Mishu01 wrote:Curtis, I'm younger than you so my hips must be better but unlike you I spent almost 28yrs under communism. The medical system was a nightmare (it isn't very performing yet... but is somehow improved). While I was a student I was the subject of a bad medical error: doctors confused a banal rheumatic illness with hip tuberculosis. The mistake was discovered 10 months later after they almost destroyed me with a treatment that was against my real problem. It took one more year to start over but I was only partially recovered. Getting older things get worse and I came to that point were I need both hips to be replaced - one of them as soon as possible. I never got any material compensation for what they did to me and actually I fully pay my surgeries in a private hospital (because my medical problem is older than my private medical insurance, so it's not covered...) But I've learned to live with this situation, enjoying the good part of this life i.e. photography, family, friends, etc. And yes, I'm optimist regarding the surgery... despite the fact that I developed a real phobia regarding doctors, hospitals, etc

Wow! Take care and keep us posted on your progress. Sending "Get well soon" prayers your way.


Mahai, all the best with your surgery. We will all be thinking of you. Please keep us informed of your progress.



pbraymond
Registered: Oct 23, 2009
Total Posts: 1944
Country: United States

MarkdV wrote:
Nice shot Ray and great expression on the deer. I hope your ring tone wasn't the theme to Bambi.

No, not the theme to Bambi. Just an old fashion phone "riiinnggg".

MDoc9523 wrote:
Ray what great timing on your deer photo. Great capture, sharp and wonderfully framed!

Thanks Ray. It's actually cropped in LR quite a bit, I was at my longest lens I had with me, the 200 AI Micro. The performance holds up really well though even at the almost 50% crop.

Oosty wrote:
Ray - I went to your uploads and looked at it - I missed it first time round. That was very well spotted - unless you'd been walking round in circles for a couple of hours!

The trail sign picture was about 3 minutes after I got back to the car and started driving, the sunset in the opposite direction from the fishermen caught my eye and I stopped to look for something in the foreground.


One more from last Friday, just as I was getting back to the car. 200 AI Micro again.



pbraymond
Registered: Oct 23, 2009
Total Posts: 1944
Country: United States

Mishu01 wrote:
Curtis, I'm younger than you so my hips must be better but unlike you I spent almost 28yrs under communism. The medical system was a nightmare (it isn't very performing yet... but is somehow improved). While I was a student I was the subject of a bad medical error: doctors confused a banal rheumatic illness with hip tuberculosis. The mistake was discovered 10 months later after they almost destroyed me with a treatment that was against my real problem. It took one more year to start over but I was only partially recovered. Getting older things get worse and I came to that point were I need both hips to be replaced - one of them as soon as possible. I never got any material compensation for what they did to me and actually I fully pay my surgeries in a private hospital (because my medical problem is older than my private medical insurance, so it's not covered...) But I've learned to live with this situation, enjoying the good part of this life i.e. photography, family, friends, etc. And yes, I'm optimist regarding the surgery... despite the fact that I developed a real phobia regarding doctors, hospitals, etc


Mihai, all the best to you on the surgery. You're demonstrating an attitude that more people could use, and at times that includes me. Amen to family and friends. Will say a prayer for you. Stay in touch here.

Ray



raboof
Registered: Mar 04, 2011
Total Posts: 2094
Country: United States

Mihai - Great to hear from you again and have a speedy recovery.
Ray, I went out last week for graffiti but it wasn't good enough to post. Well, I am posting it anyway 85mm 1.4






This next one taken yesterday. Since I have to watch the kids, I might as well take their pictures. Sorry for too many pics of my daughter. 85mm 1.4










jhinkey
Registered: Jan 08, 2010
Total Posts: 8411
Country: United States

Never too many pics of your daughter!



jhinkey
Registered: Jan 08, 2010
Total Posts: 8411
Country: United States

15 minutes with the 45/2.8 AI-P.

This lens is really resonating with me. Small, sharp, and easy to use. I've just been leaving it on my D800 and stuffing it in my laptop case - something I could not really do with the 50/1.8G because it sticks out too much from the camera. I also did not like taking my 50/1.2 AIS around because it also sticks out too much AND it's pretty heavy. The 45P is not fast, but it makes up for it in other ways it seems.

John



raboof
Registered: Mar 04, 2011
Total Posts: 2094
Country: United States

Thanks John. Those are very nice images and they are crazy sharp too. I have to admit that when Don put that lens up, I really wanted it but it wasn't the right time for me financially. I picked up the silver edition three days ago and it should be here tomorrow. I am excited.



Ronny Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 5073
Country: Sweden

Great shot Johan and Chuong



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 4684
Country: United States

Well, picked up the PK13. I haggled for a second and bought. I got it for about half of what KEH sells them for and got literally a brand new in box one. It was a spare, literally never used. Woohoo!!!



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 4684
Country: United States

There is a very overpriced 45/2.8 AI-P at the local camera store. Nice lens, but I want to say they are asking $700 for it.

Yours sure is nice!



jhinkey
Registered: Jan 08, 2010
Total Posts: 8411
Country: United States

kwoodard wrote:
Well, picked up the PK13. I haggled for a second and bought. I got it for about half of what KEH sells them for and got literally a brand new in box one. It was a spare, literally never used. Woohoo!!!


It's a great light weight accessory - can't go wrong with owning one for sure.



deang001
Registered: Apr 23, 2011
Total Posts: 1793
Country: China

CGrindahl wrote:
Dean, I'm happy you've been enjoying my work with Silver Efex Pro 2. Initially, I worked with the series of presets listed at the left. Then I began playing a bit with the sliders on the right to see how each affected the preset. I also checked how filters affected the appearance of the image. Then I began working with the original conversion doing essentially the same thing, working with brightness, contrast and structure before reviewing framing options.

When I began working with Photoshop many years ago, I was definitely a "fools rush in where angels fear to tread" sort of guy. I just started playing. Eventually I watched a few videos, but I basically learned by doing. I did the same thing with Lightroom and am now experimenting with SEP. I discovered that it really isn't possible to make mistakes that can't be corrected. Non-destructive processing is a dream. So the best way, in my opinion to find what you like with SEP, is to just begin moving sliders and seeing what you like.

I began playing with the 020 Fine Art Framed option, then reduced contrast slightly, reduced brightness slightly and added structure. Here is a shot I processed this way a moment ago... barbed wire taken yesterday with the 105 f/2.5 P AI'd, wide open.


Thanks for the information, Curtis. You're right ... I need to just play with the program more and see what happens.



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 4684
Country: United States

jhinkey wrote:
kwoodard wrote:
Well, picked up the PK13. I haggled for a second and bought. I got it for about half of what KEH sells them for and got literally a brand new in box one. It was a spare, literally never used. Woohoo!!!


It's a great light weight accessory - can't go wrong with owning one for sure.

I am quite excited to try it out. Not only shorter focus distances, but reversing a lens on it too! Macro is what brought me back to photography (with a healthy side of this threads influence)...!



deang001
Registered: Apr 23, 2011
Total Posts: 1793
Country: China

jhinkey wrote:
15 minutes with the 45/2.8 AI-P.

This lens is really resonating with me. Small, sharp, and easy to use. I've just been leaving it on my D800 and stuffing it in my laptop case - something I could not really do with the 50/1.8G because it sticks out too much from the camera. I also did not like taking my 50/1.2 AIS around because it also sticks out too much AND it's pretty heavy. The 45P is not fast, but it makes up for it in other ways it seems.

John


Nice, John.

I think this is the lens that will meter on bodies like the D40 etc, isn't it? Is this the one?

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/45.htm

I nearly bough this lens once before but didn't. I think it would be cool to use on a small dx body.



jhinkey
Registered: Jan 08, 2010
Total Posts: 8411
Country: United States

deang001 wrote:
jhinkey wrote:
15 minutes with the 45/2.8 AI-P.

This lens is really resonating with me. Small, sharp, and easy to use. I've just been leaving it on my D800 and stuffing it in my laptop case - something I could not really do with the 50/1.8G because it sticks out too much from the camera. I also did not like taking my 50/1.2 AIS around because it also sticks out too much AND it's pretty heavy. The 45P is not fast, but it makes up for it in other ways it seems.

John


Nice, John.

I think this is the lens that will meter on bodies like the D40 etc, isn't it? Is this the one?

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/45.htm

I nearly bough this lens once before but didn't. I think it would be cool to use on a small dx body.

Yes that's the one - it has a CPU so it's fully compatible with any modern DSLR. Mine is the black version. Surprisingly I've seen two of these black versions go for sale here on FM in the last month or so. I managed to grab mine for $325 - I think because it did not come with the box nor Nikon clear filter (so what!).



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