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Oosty
Registered: Mar 09, 2009
Total Posts: 4210
Country: South Africa

Wow! What a couple of days work - really far too much to comment on.

Jose - thanks for the link to Thomas Pindelsky. Also more great shots.

Phillippe - good to see you back, even if you are John Hinckey's doppelganger!

Jeff - if these don't push John over the 500/4 edge nothing will.

Great shots everyone.



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

One more from this morning's walk with the 400mm + TC-16A.

This time a small bird, I believe the Eastern Bluebird. Again handheld, 1/1600s, ISO 1250, lens wide open for an effective aperture about f/9.







saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

Mark, very nice teasers, liked the snowscape, and also the hot drink (hot cocoa?).

Leighton, had forgotten about the farmers market, great first shots of the season, and look forward to a productive season!!

Philippe, what happened, France ran out of women, you are eyeing the mannequins now?? j/k, very nice work!!

Samy



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

And last one from the 640mm trial, an egret. 1/4000s, ISO 800, lens wide open.








Lieutenant Z
Registered: Nov 21, 2010
Total Posts: 3777
Country: France

saph wrote:

Philippe, what happened, France ran out of women, you are eyeing the mannequins now?? j/k, very nice work!!

Samy


I must be getting old or something -)



Oosty
Registered: Mar 09, 2009
Total Posts: 4210
Country: South Africa

Out with a camera in our "in town" nature reserve resurrected from an old quarry many years ago. Nature has taken it back with a little help and it supports a large variety of indigenous flora, birds and small animals.



Reagan
Registered: Jan 10, 2010
Total Posts: 4619
Country: United States

Great stuff from everyone
Love the birds Jose

Reagan



Reagan
Registered: Jan 10, 2010
Total Posts: 4619
Country: United States

What's the Point
105 2.5

Reagan



designdog
Registered: Oct 05, 2004
Total Posts: 227
Country: United States

Very nice, Reagan. I'd say those were sharp photos!



designdog
Registered: Oct 05, 2004
Total Posts: 227
Country: United States

OK, not that anybody is asking, but I think I finally got the optimum work flow figured out. This is the one.


    First, convert all of your favorite Lightroom presets to ACR, per the link I posted above. Not all of them, just your favorites.
    Then, proceed to do all of your work in Lightroom, as before.
    Now, when you need an edit that is better accomplished in Photoshop, chose "Open as Smart Object in Photoshop" from the Photo/Edit In menu in the Lightroom Develop module.
    In Photoshop, make your edits, and save.
    Return to Lightroom. You will see a tiff or psd (depending on your preferences) file, and the original raw file. At this point you can forget, even trash the latter.
    For any further edits you want to make DO THEM IN PHOTOSHOP, by selecting "Edit in Photoshop" from the Lightroom Develop Photo/Edit menu.
    Save and return to Lightroom.


What does all of this give you? It allows you to continue to make raw edits, albeit on a Smart Object, after you have made Photoshop pixel edits. All you have to do is double click the Smart Object layer in PS, and you will be brought to ACR, where you can change the original raw edits you made in Lightroom. Plus, since you converted several of your presets as above, you can play with them in ACR now.

To me, this combines the UI of Lightroom and the ultimate, never-ending editing capability of Photoshop...


leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12621
Country: United States

Peter -Very interesting national flower, I'd like to see one open.

Reagan - Love the first one!

David - That's all well and good except I can't open from LR as a smart object as I only have elements. Oh well.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

deang001 wrote:
Quick question ... those of you who have gone from a D700 to a D800, do you find that the D800 over exposes a lot?

It's driving me a bit crazy actually Seems to happen way, way, way more than it did with my D700.

I have to admit ... in my situation a D800 really didn't give me much over the D700. In many ways I kind of like the D700 better.


I observed after using Don Jean's D800 for a week before I sent it on to him, that I wasn't happy with the new, thinner grip, which contributed to cramping when I held the camera for an extended period of time. I also wasn't happy with the huge files, that really give me little I need. I don't print, so the only justification for the huge files would be to give me a greater capability to crop images. But given my unhappiness with the feel of the camera in my hand, that slight advantage seemed irrelevant.

I checked out the D600 which definitely has a sensible sensor size and great performance, but the build quality doesn't measure up to what I've been using for the past six years. The D700 was a step up on build quality from the Canon 5D, but that too was a full-sized body that fit well in my hand. I continue to toy with the idea of picking up a D600 but I love the D700 so much, that I come back over and over again, to waiting for the next cycle of FX cameras. Perhaps like the DX folks waiting for a D400, I'll be waiting forever, but the D700 is a special camera. If it ends up being the last camera I own, I will hardly be suffering. It never disappoints.

Perhaps you've read Kitty's riff titled Really sick of recent Nikon QC in which she laments the fact new D700 cameras are no longer available. She says...

If there would be any D700 to be sold, i would throw this POS to trash can and buy 10 of D700s and call it a done for rest of my life.
I would be crazy to buy any expensive camera or lens from Nikon with this experience.
GRRRRRRR!


She's a working pro with top end gear.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

saph wrote:
One more from this morning's walk with the 400mm + TC-16A.

This time a small bird, I believe the Eastern Bluebird. Again handheld, 1/1600s, ISO 1250, lens wide open for an effective aperture about f/9.







You're making Jose smile with shots like this Samy and I'm definitely smiling with him. This a gorgeous. Do we love that humble lens or what? Very nicely done.


CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

Love your last set Peter. I also love the fact that you continue to shoot with a D200 which has always had a reputation for producing outstanding images while struggling only in low light. I know the viewfinder is not a bright as FX cameras but you keep finding the way. Well done!



leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12621
Country: United States

deang001 wrote:
Quick question ... those of you who have gone from a D700 to a D800, do you find that the D800 over exposes a lot?

It's driving me a bit crazy actually Seems to happen way, way, way more than it did with my D700.

I have to admit ... in my situation a D800 really didn't give me much over the D700. In many ways I kind of like the D700 better.

If there would be any D700 to be sold, i would throw this POS to trash can and buy 10 of D700s and call it a done for rest of my life.
I would be crazy to buy any expensive camera or lens from Nikon with this experience.
GRRRRRRR!

CGrindahl wrote:
I observed after using Don Jean's D800 for a week before I sent it on to him, that I wasn't happy with the new, thinner grip, which contributed to cramping when I held the camera for an extended period of time. I also wasn't happy with the huge files, that really give me little I need. I don't print, so the only justification for the huge files would be to give me a greater capability to crop images. But given my unhappiness with the feel of the camera in my hand, that slight advantage seemed irrelevant.

I checked out the D600 which definitely has a sensible sensor size and great performance, but the build quality doesn't measure up to what I've been using for the past six years. The D700 was a step up on build quality from the Canon 5D, but that too was a full-sized body that fit well in my hand. I continue to toy with the idea of picking up a D600 but I love the D700 so much, that I come back over and over again, to waiting for the next cycle of FX cameras. Perhaps like the DX folks waiting for a D400, I'll be waiting forever, but the D700 is a special camera. If it ends up being the last camera I own, I will hardly be suffering. It never disappoints.

Perhaps you've read Kitty's riff titled Really sick of recent Nikon QC in which she laments the fact new D700 cameras are no longer available. She says...
She's a working pro with top end gear.


I know this off topic from what Dean wanted to know but...adding the grip on the D600 made all the difference for me. Just my 2 cents. Sorry Dean, that didn't help at all.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

designdog wrote:
OK, not that anybody is asking, but I think I finally got the optimum work flow figured out. This is the one.


    First, convert all of your favorite Lightroom presets to ACR, per the link I posted above. Not all of them, just your favorites.
    Then, proceed to do all of your work in Lightroom, as before.
    Now, when you need an edit that is better accomplished in Photoshop, chose "Open as Smart Object in Photoshop" from the Photo/Edit In menu in the Lightroom Develop module.
    In Photoshop, make your edits, and save.
    Return to Lightroom. You will see a tiff or psd (depending on your preferences) file, and the original raw file. At this point you can forget, even trash the latter.
    For any further edits you want to make DO THEM IN PHOTOSHOP, by selecting "Edit in Photoshop" from the Lightroom Develop Photo/Edit menu.
    Save and return to Lightroom.


What does all of this give you? It allows you to continue to make raw edits, albeit on a Smart Object, after you have made Photoshop pixel edits. All you have to do is double click the Smart Object layer in PS, and you will be brought to ACR, where you can change the original raw edits you made in Lightroom. Plus, since you converted several of your presets as above, you can play with them in ACR now.

To me, this combines the UI of Lightroom and the ultimate, never-ending editing capability of Photoshop...


Personally, I more enjoy working on images in Lightroom than in PS. Yes, each file ultimately passes through PS, but typically only for re-sizing and a final pass of Smart Sharpen before conversion to an 8 bit file and saving as a JPEG. Original photos remain in folders created upon import and kept on a dedicated partition in my internal hard drive. Lightroom modifications are kept in the same folder which is regularly backed up using SuperDuper. Processed photos are kept on a different hard drive and organized by location. For example, all the photos taken with our traveling lens are kept in a folder titled 2013 Nikki Visit. That drive is also regularly backed up with SuperDuper.

Folders containing processed images are typically uploaded to my Picasa account. The Picasa software on my computer is set so that as new photos are added to each folder, they are automatically uploaded to my online Picasa account.

I generally don't use pre-sets. I will occasionally copy processing settings when working with multiple files I may wish to merge but otherwise I simply work with individual images to find the look I want. Of late I've been playing quite a bit with Nik tools, but that is a new and evolving process. Granted, I don't shoot for a living, so the number of images I handle is generally not large. I can afford the time it takes to process individual images. I quite enjoy the process. Of course, I'm retired so my time is my own.

A final matter, I use a naming convention for my files that includes the lens used, as well as tubes or converters used. This can help me identify the lens when other means are unavailable for doing so. It works.

This is a useful topic because there are many different approaches to handling files and often fresh ideas arise when the topic is being discussed.


asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

Oosty wrote:
Out with a camera in our "in town" nature reserve resurrected from an old quarry many years ago. Nature has taken it back with a little help and it supports a large variety of indigenous flora, birds and small animals.









Peter, excellent set, I liked the first 3 and specially this one.


asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

CGrindahl wrote:
saph wrote:
One more from this morning's walk with the 400mm + TC-16A.

This time a small bird, I believe the Eastern Bluebird. Again handheld, 1/1600s, ISO 1250, lens wide open for an effective aperture about f/9.







You're making Jose smile with shots like this Samy and I'm definitely smiling with him. This a gorgeous. Do we love that humble lens or what? Very nicely done.


Agreed


CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

It makes sense Leighton, that moving from the D7000, the D600 would work for you. But you also have a long history with Nikon, so you doubtless recall the feel of a full-sized camera. I don't know whether you've shot with the D700 but it is a handful. When I was upgrading from my first DSLR during my Canon days, there was no FX option available. The newest Digital Rebel that replaced the 300D I was using, had a much bigger sensor in a much smaller body. I simply couldn't handle it and so moved to the much more expensive 20D which felt much better in my hand. Next I tried a 1D which I loved, but the full-sized professional camera was too heavy and made the plunge to buy the 5D which has recently been released. I enjoyed that camera a great deal and as you know still owned it when I bought the D700.

Smaller cameras just don't feel comfortable in my hand. I might still have taken the plunge with the D600, keeping my D700, of course, except for the problems reported with that new camera. I know you haven't been troubled by dust or oil and I haven't heard complaints from Ray, so I'm assuming it is not a huge problem. But when I'm lukewarm about moving beyond the D700, such conversation diminishes my enthusiasm. I continue to look at both used D700s and refurbished D600s, but will likely do nothing but keep shooting with what I have.



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

Samy you work with the birds is amazing. It's so good I stop and look at everyone!
Rafael You can display a lens capability like no one else.
Mark your vacation photos are wonderful. Especially the first one!
Leighton I know you must be excited to have your market back. Long winter huh?
Phillippe great to see you are still making those great images!
Jose I love the reserve photos. Lovely water lily!
Reagan I like your new style!



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