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georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

CGrindahl wrote:
Truth be told, I like pre-AI lenses at any focal length. You're right Ben, I wasn't interested in the 24 f/2.8 N.C. when I first began experimenting with these lenses. That is before this particular facet of the addiction got hold of me... Now, just about any pre-AI lens in EX+ condition that has the AI conversion kit is subject to scrutiny and possibly a bid. But that is conditioned by price, since I'll certainly not pay $500 for a 35 f/1.4 N.C. AI'd any time soon. I also doubt I'd pay a premium for a 28 f/2 N.C. AI'd. I'm still looking for good deals, but frankly, I think I have just about all the pre-AI lenses available. Of course, if an 85 f/1.8 H.C. came my way... but then, wait a minute... There IS a copy of that lens soon on its way... Mmm.


Curtis, congrats

I love the handling of the old pre-Ai-Nikkor's a lot. The focusing ring is so nice. And they look so coool:-)
I get a lot of questions about gear when I'm under way - mostly for
A - strange looking lenses like the old Nikkor-H's, Nikkor-S's and so on
B - the Fuji X100 (does it work with film, is it from the 70's)
C - the Berlebach wooden tripods



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

saph wrote:
Too funny, and hope I never get to the point of 8 in 2 weeks

bruni wrote:
CGrindahl wrote:

This is all in fun... a hobby gone wild... I recommend it to my friends...


OK......I'll bite.

My fault huh? You may remember that - at that time everyone was gushing over the 50mm f1.2 - and I suggested the 55mm f1.2SC as a worthy alternative - as did Mihai. Somehow that turned into you buying 8 lenses in 2 weeks.

I'm thinking one of us may have a problem?

ben
ps enjoy the 24mm NC - it's a very cute lens.



Don't worry Samy, Ben is prone to exaggeration. In fact, the first lens I bought after he trotted out his 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd was a 55 f/1.2 AI. It took me awhile to be seduced by his "charms..." But I got there eventually, first by selling the 55 to Matt, then finding as S.C. copy with the conversion kit. That took three weeks by itself. It was only after I'd used that lens for a time that I began looking for other pre-AI lenses. It is relatively easy to find those lenses, but only a few have the AI conversion kit. That made the hunt much more challenging. The 55 was bought June 15, then a 50 f/1.4 S AI'd three weeks later, quickly followed by a 28 f/3.5 H AI'd and a week after that a 105 f/2.5 P AI'd. Two weeks after that a 50 f/2 H.C. AI'd. The lenses kept coming over subsequent months.

None of these lenses cost a great deal of money. Finding deals has been fun... but it has taken 9 months, not two weeks..



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

Reagan wrote:
bruni wrote:
CGrindahl wrote:
asiostygius wrote:
kings_freak wrote:
CGrindahl wrote:
I just received notification that lens number 33 will arrive shortly. I won an auction on E-Bay for another pre-AI lens, this a 24 f/2.8 N.C. AI'd. The fact it was AI'd wasn't noted in the description or made obvious by the three photos included in the listing. But I noticed the rabbit ears had holes in them and the bottom of the aperture ring was clearly from a Nikon AI conversion kit. There were a number of bidders but I'm happy with the price I paid. Here's what the lens looks like... another beauty with scalloped focusing ring.

Very nice Curtis! That is exactly what I have been looking for. Oh well, the hunt continues!

–Tony


+1

My NMFAS virus tells me that I have to buy scalloped lens small kit (20 or 24; 50 or 55, 105 and 135 or 200)


Its really all Ben's fault. I was quite content with my kit of AI and AI-s lenses until he showed up with his 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd. That was the first converted pre-AI lens I bought. I immediately fell in love with the build quality and the scalloped metal focusing ring. From that moment in time I've bought only pre-AI lenses. This will be my ninth, though only eight can be mounted on my D700. My only two criteria in making these purchase is 1) the lens must already have the Nikon AI conversion kit installed, and 2) that the lens be in EX or better condition. More recently, I've been looking to get the last version of the lens, which typically carries a "C" designation, meaning it has the latest coating added. Except in rare situations, this means the pre-AI lens has the same coating as found in AI and AI-s lenses. This led to my purchase of a second copy of the 50 f/1.4, a clean, non-converted S.C. If I ever work up the courage I'll switch the aperture ring from the S copy I own so I'll end up with a pristine S.C. with the conversion kit.

This is all in fun... a hobby gone wild... I recommend it to my friends...



OK......I'll bite.

My fault huh? You may remember that - at that time everyone was gushing over the 50mm f1.2 - and I suggested the 55mm f1.2SC as a worthy alternative - as did Mihai. Somehow that turned into you buying 8 lenses in 2 weeks.

I'm thinking one of us may have a problem?

ben
ps enjoy the 24mm NC - it's a very cute lens.


Ben, I think he needs the 24 PCE


Reagan


That kind of lens is reserved for people who can afford 1966 Chevelles. Of course, having bought the car and then paid for all the necessary repairs, one wouldn't have a great deal to spend on anything. I'm glad you were able to spring for the D600 so you can keep an oar in this water my friend. No doubt a tilt-shift lens would be a treat but it won't likely happen in this lifetime...



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

James, I like the documentary-look of the bridge-shot a lot. Classic B&W. The lens-family-shot is impressive to say the least.

Jose, you continue to impress me with your great Pompeii-images.

Roland, welcome to this thread!
I really enjoyed looking at your fine work. I particularly like the first posted B&W-shot with the legendary 105/2.5 - excellent B&W-work!
The vignetting on the 35/2-image looks like some kind of mechanical vignetting (caused by a filter or a sunshade).
Willkommen und ich freu mich schon auf weitere Motive aus den Bergen, Georg (aus Rostock/Mecklenburg).



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

Chin, I like the "Theater of Creams"-shot a lot. US-$ 23 each roll is steep indeed. I miss a real, wet darkroom. A very nice enlarger collects dust on the attic, but right now I don't have the time to set up a proper darkroom and scanning negs never really satisfies me.

Jeff, as usual very, very nice work - the corrosion-shot is great. I especially like your choice of shooting-angle and framing.

John, good to see that your second copy of the 135/3.5 works so well for you! The 400mm-shots are great.

Rafael, f/8 works better on your beautiful Corvette with this background. Was the "bleached" wheelbarrow-image processed with a film-preset or -plugin?

Laura, nice animal-portraits! I'm glad that I don't have to carry heavy school-books anymore ;-) Is that the 80-400 in your bag?

Samy, the 5.8cm-Nikkor looks neat. Pure envy over here :--)

Monty, congrats!!!

Kevin, I like the last flower-shot the most. The monochrome background works great.

Philippe, outstanding photographs from the Opera! The second image is my personal favorite.

Peter, excellent work with the F3HP! The first two images are my favs - the framing is absolutely first rate.

Reagan, great job on the fishermen! The 25-50 is the only MF-Zoom-Nikkor I would really like to try (apart from that insane 1200-1700 )



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 4683
Country: United States

Thank you all for the compliments on my tulip tree. Seems that everyone likes the monochrome background version the best. This brings me to a question.

When any of you are trying to isolate a flower (or something else small, yet living) and cannot really do it short of picking the flower and then photographing it, do you keep some sort of background with you to place behind the subject or do you use like a very long focal length to obliterate the background? When I see shots where the subject is nicely isolated, I always wonder if the plants you are shooting just don't have neighbors or if they have been cut...



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

Thanks for the comments on the fisheye-shots and the ceramicist!

James Markus wrote:
Georg - good solid work...did you bend over backwards on the fisheye stitch?

Yes, I was pretty close to the old city wall behind me. I bent my head and the camera about 20 or 30 degrees backwards. Btw, it's not a stitched shot, it's an almost full frame single image.



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

kwoodard wrote:
Thank you all for the compliments on my tulip tree. Seems that everyone likes the monochrome background version the best. This brings me to a question.

When any of you are trying to isolate a flower (or something else small, yet living) and cannot really do it short of picking the flower and then photographing it, do you keep some sort of background with you to place behind the subject or do you use like a very long focal length to obliterate the background? When I see shots where the subject is nicely isolated, I always wonder if the plants you are shooting just don't have neighbors or if they have been cut...


Kevin, can't speak for others, but I usually pick a subject that is already a bit isolated (a blossom on the outside of the plant or so). Sometimes I see a "good-bokeh-background" and search for a subject to fill the foreground;-)
Artificial backgrounds don't suit my style of shooting. Sometimes it's possible to create a strong backlight (remote flash or a mirror) to isolate a subject.



Reagan
Registered: Jan 10, 2010
Total Posts: 4619
Country: United States

Out today with just the 50 1.4 SC . It says "Auto" after that. I thought it was either Auto Focus or that I could drive it Does anyone know what it means?

Some stuff A little rust, Graffiti and a direction

Reagan



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

Reagan, love the first shot above! Don't know what "Auto" means - back in the days it was probably just a cool marketing term (seriously, it might have something to do with the aperture-mechanism, but I'm not sure).



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

I've tried to get some sun-stars with the 20/3.5 Ais today, but had no luck. So here's a shot from sunday - playing with a 55/1.2 at it's minimum focusing distance. Amazing to my eyes how the fence melts away.

Unbenannt von georgsfoto auf Flickr
55/1.2 Ai wide open and at minimum focusing distance. The framing could have been better - too much concentration on the focus...



Reagan
Registered: Jan 10, 2010
Total Posts: 4619
Country: United States

I think it looks fine. I also like how it fades away

Reagan



raboof
Registered: Mar 04, 2011
Total Posts: 2094
Country: United States

I compared the 50mm f1.2 (AIS) @1.2 vs the 55mm f1.2 (S) @1.2 The "glow" for the AIS is actually more visible than the S.



mp356
Registered: May 31, 2009
Total Posts: 5639
Country: United States

Reagan wrote:
Out today with just the 50 1.4 SC . It says "Auto" after that. I thought it was either Auto Focus or that I could drive it Does anyone know what it means?

Some stuff A little rust, Graffiti and a direction

Reagan


Reagan, I like the first one here.



mp356
Registered: May 31, 2009
Total Posts: 5639
Country: United States

georgms wrote:
I've tried to get some sun-stars with the 20/3.5 Ais today, but had no luck. So here's a shot from sunday - playing with a 55/1.2 at it's minimum focusing distance. Amazing to my eyes how the fence melts away.

Unbenannt von georgsfoto auf Flickr
55/1.2 Ai wide open and at minimum focusing distance. The framing could have been better - too much concentration on the focus...



Very nice Georg. I like how the background really sets this off.



rafaelcasd
Registered: Jan 07, 2011
Total Posts: 2488
Country: United States

CGrindahl wrote:
asiostygius wrote:
kings_freak wrote:
CGrindahl wrote:
I just received notification that lens number 33 will arrive shortly. I won an auction on E-Bay for another pre-AI lens, this a 24 f/2.8 N.C. AI'd. The fact it was AI'd wasn't noted in the description or made obvious by the three photos included in the listing. But I noticed the rabbit ears had holes in them and the bottom of the aperture ring was clearly from a Nikon AI conversion kit. There were a number of bidders but I'm happy with the price I paid. Here's what the lens looks like... another beauty with scalloped focusing ring.

Very nice Curtis! That is exactly what I have been looking for. Oh well, the hunt continues!

–Tony


+1

My NMFAS virus tells me that I have to buy scalloped lens small kit (20 or 24; 50 or 55, 105 and 135 or 200)


Its really all Ben's fault. I was quite content with my kit of AI and AI-s lenses until he showed up with his 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd. That was the first converted pre-AI lens I bought. I immediately fell in love with the build quality and the scalloped metal focusing ring. From that moment in time I've bought only pre-AI lenses. This will be my ninth, though only eight can be mounted on my D700. My only two criteria in making these purchase is 1) the lens must already have the Nikon AI conversion kit installed, and 2) that the lens be in EX or better condition. More recently, I've been looking to get the last version of the lens, which typically carries a "C" designation, meaning it has the latest coating added. Except in rare situations, this means the pre-AI lens has the same coating as found in AI and AI-s lenses. This led to my purchase of a second copy of the 50 f/1.4, a clean, non-converted S.C. If I ever work up the courage I'll switch the aperture ring from the S copy I own so I'll end up with a pristine S.C. with the conversion kit.

This is all in fun... a hobby gone wild... I recommend it to my friends...


Curtis, you have not done your SC conversion yet?



rafaelcasd
Registered: Jan 07, 2011
Total Posts: 2488
Country: United States

georgms wrote:


Rafael, f/8 works better on your beautiful Corvette with this background. Was the "bleached" wheelbarrow-image processed with a film-preset or -plugin?

)


Georg, Nik NX2 plug in, the 'pastel'one, lowering saturation first.



rafaelcasd
Registered: Jan 07, 2011
Total Posts: 2488
Country: United States

georgms wrote:
Reagan, love the first shot above! Don't know what "Auto" means - back in the days it was probably just a cool marketing term (seriously, it might have something to do with the aperture-mechanism, but I'm not sure).


Auto =Auto aperture, not preset. View at full aperture and 'automatically' close it down for the capture.



James Markus
Registered: Jul 20, 2005
Total Posts: 4801
Country: United States

The more I explore this lens - the more I am impressed. Good for products, landscapes and portraits. That is quite a range.







Nikkor 28mm f2.8 ais


kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 4683
Country: United States

James Markus wrote:
The more I explore this lens - the more I am impressed. Good for products, landscapes and portraits. That is quite a range.







Nikkor 28mm f2.8 ais

Very nice!


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