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leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12614
Country: United States

Jose, welcome home and congrats on the D600! You're going to love the cropping ability.



Oosty
Registered: Mar 09, 2009
Total Posts: 4208
Country: South Africa

MDoc9523 wrote:
mp356 wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
What to do. what to do. what to do. I think I have my D7000 w/kit lens sold. Now do I wait to get the D7100 or, go for the D600 for sale locally for $1500 with 1000 actuations or a refurbished one or one listed on the B&S?



Say it ain't so Ray! Thinking of leaving the DX ranks. First Leighton, and now you are on the fence. You had cited some very good reasons a few days ago as to why the DX 7000/7100 make sense for your style of shooting. I have pondered some of the same issues. Good luck on your decision.
Scott

I am keeping the options open. The 1/4000 top speed on the D600 is a real issue with me It would almost eliminate my daytime shooting wide open. The reach is important as well. So my leaning is much more to the D7100 especially with the 24MP sensor. But like all major purchases I weigh all of the sides


Ray, I'm sure you've seen this but it's worth a 2nd glance http://snapsort.com/compare/Nikon-D600-vs-Nikon-D7100



Oosty
Registered: Mar 09, 2009
Total Posts: 4208
Country: South Africa

Rafael - "Out of Africa" is appropriate. The homestead could be anywhere in sub tropical SA and points north where the farms haven't been ruined by ignorant "land reform" programs that have turned productive farms to slums.

Georg - great chopper

Jose - nice big pano. I hope you haven't abandoned the D7000 - we want to see DX vs FX crops side by side.

Jose - thanks for the comment on the Touraco and Owl (although I'd never post the owl without the bokeh issue)

Jeff - the Broken Hill series images are great and very well done on the WA. I liked it the moment I saw it.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

leighton w wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
mp356 wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
What to do. what to do. what to do. I think I have my D7000 w/kit lens sold. Now do I wait to get the D7100 or, go for the D600 for sale locally for $1500 with 1000 actuations or a refurbished one or one listed on the B&S?



Say it ain't so Ray! Thinking of leaving the DX ranks. First Leighton, and now you are on the fence. You had cited some very good reasons a few days ago as to why the DX 7000/7100 make sense for your style of shooting. I have pondered some of the same issues. Good luck on your decision.
Scott

I am keeping the options open. The 1/4000 top speed on the D600 is a real issue with me It would almost eliminate my daytime shooting wide open. The reach is important as well. So my leaning is much more to the D7100 especially with the 24MP sensor. But like all major purchases I weigh all of the sides


Ray, keep in mind that the D600 can go down to 50 ISO L0.5 setting. In fact, it can go down to 42 ISO! They say it does this a loss of IQ, but I haven't noticed any. One more thing, I haven't had the 1/4000 top shutter speed keep me from any image yet simply for the reason I just mentioned.


Does the sun actually shine in the Shenandoah Valley?

And remember, Ray recently bought some FAST glass, so when he talks about shooting wide open he is definitely coming up against top shutter speeds. The D7100 has a base ISO of 100 and a top shutter speed of 1/8000th of a second, so it is ahead in this particular game. Removal of the anti-alias filter is interesting as well but DX will not likely find its way into my kit.

Thanks for your thorough comments on the choice Leighton. That was exactly what I expected. Well done.



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

Ray, weighing all sides means you will just have to buy at least the 400 5.6 for the D600 if you decide to go FX, so you can still frame your pet eagle about the same ;-)

MDoc9523 wrote:
mp356 wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
What to do. what to do. what to do. I think I have my D7000 w/kit lens sold. Now do I wait to get the D7100 or, go for the D600 for sale locally for $1500 with 1000 actuations or a refurbished one or one listed on the B&S?



Say it ain't so Ray! Thinking of leaving the DX ranks. First Leighton, and now you are on the fence. You had cited some very good reasons a few days ago as to why the DX 7000/7100 make sense for your style of shooting. I have pondered some of the same issues. Good luck on your decision.
Scott

I am keeping the options open. The 1/4000 top speed on the D600 is a real issue with me It would almost eliminate my daytime shooting wide open. The reach is important as well. So my leaning is much more to the D7100 especially with the 24MP sensor. But like all major purchases I weigh all of the sides



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

Rafael,

Wonderful that you were able to reconnect with your childhood memories and highlights. That lake and surrounding topology sure looks like something large came crashing down there eons ago. Great use of the fisheye and the zoom. (Correction, just read up on the lake and its a volcanic crater, tells you how much I know about geology)

rafaelcasd wrote:
rankamateur wrote:
Wasn't even gonna post this but it has been kinda slow so what the heck. A shot I took the other day at Longwood with the 50-135


Ron, beautiful picture.

I wanted to share the trip to lake Coatepeque in El Salvador, this is a crater lake, very deep, not sure how large but large enough. the tallest mountain around it is the Santa Ana Volcano, about 9,000 feet, all the forests around are really coffee farms. My dad was a coffee farmer, we lived in the nearby town of Santa Ana and had a house on the lake where weekends were spent fishing, snorkeling, skying, the nights going by boat to our friends houses for parties and games. (We were kids free to roam, but it was so safe and beatiful back in the 50s and 60s)

Nikkor 16mm 3.5 and 25-50mm 4.0 D800.

A Full view

nikon nikkor 16mm 3.5 at 11 D800 Coatepeque Lake full view by Rafael CA, on Flickr



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

Nice unique head-on and wide angle view of the helicopter Georg!

georgms wrote:
I've shot nothing really personal in the last days. Here's an image taken with the 24/2Ai, a helicopter on the ground.
A SB-800 was fired via Pocket-Wizards to illuminate the cockpit. The rotor-placement could have been better ;-(
I've asked the pilot to switch the headlamps on, but it wasn't possible for some technical reasons.

D3s, 24/2Ai at f/8, 1/250sec at ISO200



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

50 1.1? And I guess those rangefinder lenses can not be used on SLRs?

leighton w wrote:
rankamateur wrote:
Man these prices seem high for 1957. No wonder people bought a ton of Vivatar lenses for their Nikon.


Was Vivatar even around then?



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

Chin, that's some OOF rendition! I guess the tilt adds to it?

Zichar wrote:
Something totally uninteresting I suppose
Soft-close hinges... the good stuff I'm told

45PCE full tilt



zl_uppser_04 by Zichar, on Flickr



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

Seconding Mark here. Jose, welcome back, and great start with your D600. And thanks for reposting these pics. I had missed some of the images before - the raptor shots by Ray, John's vista and Rafael's secretary bird. All of them are superb.


MarkdV wrote:
asiostygius wrote:
Well, after arriving from my trip I took 4 days to read over 45 pages on this thread!

So many great conversations and images, I just will comment a tiny fraction in the next posts.

Just yesterday my new D600 arrived (bought by impulse that great priced promotional kit with a "garbage" AF lens, which I will put to sell soon) and now my trusty D3 is being sold.

Before Italy (need to process a huge amount of images) I am posting some of the first shots with the D600 + my beloved Nikki's daughter, another storm coming yesterday late afternoon:

3 horizontal shots pano, 85mm f/1.8 K ai'd and CPU'd, f/5.6 at 1/80s, ISO 1600, window sill supported.
Jpges straight from the camera + slight PP.


5 vertical shots pano, 85mm f/1.8 K ai'd and CPU'd, f/5.6 at 1/60s, ISO 1600, window sill supported.
Jpges straight from the camera + slight PP.

I know it is too early, but generally I am impressed by this 24mp FX sensor; and I feel Nikki's daughter shines on it



Welcome back, and what a stunning return, that D600 and 85mm makes one heck of a combu in your hands. Congrats on the new camera.




saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

Just checked out the assignment thread. Agreed, great job Jeff!!

David Antilley wrote:
Conga-rats to Jeff on another assignment win, you are killing them!!

David





leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12614
Country: United States

David Antilley wrote:
Conga-rats to Jeff on another assignment win, you are killing them!!

David

saph wrote:
Just checked out the assignment thread. Agreed, great job Jeff!!


+1 !



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3287
Country: Brazil

Foggy14 wrote:
One more from the Broken Hill Trail:







Stunning image! No surprise you won the assignment, congrats!!


asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3287
Country: Brazil

Thank you Mark, Ray, Scott, Jeff, Ronny, Leighton, Peter and Samy for the words and welcome back.

One more from yesterday early night: odd clouds over the city.
This time with the 1971 made Nikkor-O 35/2 in my new toy (unfortunately arrived after my trip ) 2012 made D600:



Strange clouds over the city by labecoaves, on Flickr

Early night clouds over the city.
D600 + old Nikkor-O 35mm f/2 F ai'd, ISO 100, f/8 at 2 sec exposure.



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3287
Country: Brazil

leighton w wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
mp356 wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
What to do. what to do. what to do. I think I have my D7000 w/kit lens sold. Now do I wait to get the D7100 or, go for the D600 for sale locally for $1500 with 1000 actuations or a refurbished one or one listed on the B&S?



Say it ain't so Ray! Thinking of leaving the DX ranks. First Leighton, and now you are on the fence. You had cited some very good reasons a few days ago as to why the DX 7000/7100 make sense for your style of shooting. I have pondered some of the same issues. Good luck on your decision.
Scott

I am keeping the options open. The 1/4000 top speed on the D600 is a real issue with me It would almost eliminate my daytime shooting wide open. The reach is important as well. So my leaning is much more to the D7100 especially with the 24MP sensor. But like all major purchases I weigh all of the sides


Ray, keep in mind that the D600 can go down to 50 ISO L0.5 setting. In fact, it can go down to 42 ISO! They say it does this a loss of IQ, but I haven't noticed any. One more thing, I haven't had the 1/4000 top shutter speed keep me from any image yet simply for the reason I just mentioned.


Agreed with Leighton and would add that a simple ND filter can fix your Ray's concern when using ISO 100. Even a polarizer can do that in a emergency.



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

asiostygius wrote:
leighton w wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
mp356 wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
What to do. what to do. what to do. I think I have my D7000 w/kit lens sold. Now do I wait to get the D7100 or, go for the D600 for sale locally for $1500 with 1000 actuations or a refurbished one or one listed on the B&S?



Say it ain't so Ray! Thinking of leaving the DX ranks. First Leighton, and now you are on the fence. You had cited some very good reasons a few days ago as to why the DX 7000/7100 make sense for your style of shooting. I have pondered some of the same issues. Good luck on your decision.
Scott

I am keeping the options open. The 1/4000 top speed on the D600 is a real issue with me It would almost eliminate my daytime shooting wide open. The reach is important as well. So my leaning is much more to the D7100 especially with the 24MP sensor. But like all major purchases I weigh all of the sides


Ray, keep in mind that the D600 can go down to 50 ISO L0.5 setting. In fact, it can go down to 42 ISO! They say it does this a loss of IQ, but I haven't noticed any. One more thing, I haven't had the 1/4000 top shutter speed keep me from any image yet simply for the reason I just mentioned.


Agreed with Leighton and would add that a simple ND filter can fix your Ray's concern when using ISO 100. Even a polarizer can do that in a emergency.


Well that may be true but I have never been a big fan of filters. To have to use a filter for daylight shooting seems like a pain
Here is an example of a shot I just took. Bear in mind this is Florida in the winter at 5:30 pm D7000 85mm 1.4 at F2 1/8000.







asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3287
Country: Brazil

Oosty wrote:
...
Jose - nice big pano. I hope you haven't abandoned the D7000 - we want to see DX vs FX crops side by side.
....




Peter, no way I would depart a DX body, since as a birder I always need more reach.

As a matter of fact I always prefer to have two camera bodies, since 1980s: firstly a F2 + FM, then a F3 + FM2, before digital a F4 + F90x (N90), a D2x + D80 and finally a D3 + D300 just before my current pair of cameras.
The reason is that for my wildlife trips I use one camera with a long telephoto (wildlife) and the other is ready with a wide angle or normal o register environments.



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

asiostygius wrote:
Thank you Mark, Ray, Scott, Jeff, Ronny, Leighton, Peter and Samy for the words and welcome back.

One more from yesterday early night: odd clouds over the city.
This time with the 1971 made Nikkor-O 35/2 in my new toy (unfortunately arrived after my trip ) 2012 made D600:




Early night clouds over the city.
D600 + old Nikkor-O 35mm f/2 F ai'd, ISO 100, f/8 at 2 sec exposure.

Love the dynamic range of this photo especially the sky - well done!



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

saph wrote:
Ray, weighing all sides means you will just have to buy at least the 400 5.6 for the D600 if you decide to go FX, so you can still frame your pet eagle about the same ;-)

MDoc9523 wrote:
mp356 wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
What to do. what to do. what to do. I think I have my D7000 w/kit lens sold. Now do I wait to get the D7100 or, go for the D600 for sale locally for $1500 with 1000 actuations or a refurbished one or one listed on the B&S?



Say it ain't so Ray! Thinking of leaving the DX ranks. First Leighton, and now you are on the fence. You had cited some very good reasons a few days ago as to why the DX 7000/7100 make sense for your style of shooting. I have pondered some of the same issues. Good luck on your decision.
Scott

I am keeping the options open. The 1/4000 top speed on the D600 is a real issue with me It would almost eliminate my daytime shooting wide open. The reach is important as well. So my leaning is much more to the D7100 especially with the 24MP sensor. But like all major purchases I weigh all of the sides


Great point Samy. That's what I love about this forum!
Thank you Curtis for your insight too!



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3287
Country: Brazil

I need to share a fact occurred to me during this last trip to Italy.
After torturing myself about which lenses to put in my bag I decided finally for the 16mm f/3.5 F ai'd; 20mm f/2.8 ais CPU'd, 55mm f/3.5 micro (lighter than the 55/2.8); 85mm f/1.8 K ai'd CPU'd + TC16A for reach if needed; and (shame on me!) a 24-120mm f/4 VR AF-S (a 3 in one lens - wide/normal/short tele).

Below is a graph accounting for lens use (MF vs. AF) in the 7 active shooting days.


Untitled-1 by labecoaves, on Flickr

In spite of the convenience of the AF zoom, its comparatively cheap feeling in the hand and the horrible plastic hood led me to use almost exclusively MF Nikkors after the two first days!
Those solid and metal lenses with smooth focus operation gave me a so much better feeling in my hands; slowing down but at the same time maximizing the fun of taking pictures. Add to these points that I love changing the aperture via aperture ring, even on the my CPU'd 20/2.8 ais and 85/1.8 K ai'd!!
Apart for some situations as BIFs and "nervous" or fast moving animals, I think that autofocus for me is becoming nearly irrelevant! Just my personal impressions, though.
Sorry for my bad English!



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