Manual Focus Nikon Glass
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saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

Ray, I need to visit Florida just so I can take a picture of your pet eagle too Very nice.

I have seen occasional comments on the 28PC being complicated or people not sure how to use it, so I wanted to try to explain the basic mechanism of shifting in the next couple posts.

First pic is with the regular 20 3.5 UD lens, no shift or anything possible. From where I was standing I couldn't avoid getting the lane in the foreground in the frame. That's the iconic University of Maryland "M" on Campus Drive.







Next pic is with the 28 3.5 PC using the shift function to get rid of the foreground lane and instead get more of the sky. A better composition (I hope ) and removing the unwanted foreground.







Edit to this: both "M" pictures are the complete frames that were captured, no cropping.

And some pics of the lens in shifted and unshifted states next..







MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

Thank you Samy. Come on down and we'll get together with Reagan and go out shooting
Nice work with the shift. I don't need a shift, I don't need a shift, I don't need a shift



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

The 28 PC lens, unshifted in the first image. When mounted on the camera, I have the screw pointing vertically downward.

In the second image, I used the screw which operates very smoothly, to shift the lens all the way. On camera, if the screw had been pointing vertically downward to start with, after the shift, the result would the previous picture where I lost the foreground.

Also note the funky aperture ring in the front of the lens. The one closest to the silver cap is where you set the limit. For example if the white dot is on f/11, then you can rotate the inner ring, which is the actual aperture setter, and leave its white dot anywhere between f/3.5 and f/11. If I wanted the lens not to be able to go lower than f/8 for the next few shots for example, I would set the outer ring at f/8.

In this instance, the outer aperture limit is set at f/16, and the actual aperture (inner ring) is at f/11 or so.





Foggy14
Registered: May 01, 2010
Total Posts: 1471
Country: United States

Tony, thanks for your comment on the Broken Hill North shot. Getting clear skies and some cirrus clouds really helped.

Rafael, wonderful shot of the Secretary bird.

Jorge and Tony, really nice portraits.

Leighton, spectacular rainbow! Both versions are great, but if I had to choose, I'd pick the second one.

Ron, very nice garden shots.

Scott, love the mid-day shot of the buildings and snow. You're hitting these winter scenes out of the park.

Ray, gorgeous eagles!

Between Leighton, Peter, Mark, Matt and me, we could start our own hospital. Take care guys!



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

And finally to see what's changing in the innards of the lens upon shifting, here's two shots of the rear element of the lens, unshifted and shifted.

Hope that helps anyone who is interested in or has recently acquired this lens. When I first got it I was a little flustered, but with a little tinkering I figured out that even with my not so mechanically inclined brain I could use it consistently and easily.

The screw could be in the vertical postion pointing straight up (just rotate the lens) and then when you use the screw to shift, you would have the opposite effect, that is you would lose background and more of the top of the frame. One could also keep the screw pointing sideways then you are shifting in the horizontal axis.

The 24 PCE that for example Ben has been demoing recently I am sure is a bit different plus it has an additional tilt function. In addition, the 28 PC can be unforgiving if you don't keep it aligned with the vertical plane. I have had distortions that look crazy. It also has a bit of edge bluriness that I haven't checked if it disappears when stopping down. Also,shifting is not good for corner sharpness.

So for a pro it would be critical to learn how to work around the 28's weaknesses (or just buy the more modern 24 PCE).

Samy



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

And all pics of the 28 3.5 PC were with the 35 f2 OC, which now I am realizing really was a hole in my focal lengths lineup for manual primes

Hope everyone's that's not feeling well is better soon.



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

Thanks Ray, I will need to plan for a month in which Reagan doesn't sell his lenses

MDoc9523 wrote:
Thank you Samy. Come on down and we'll get together with Reagan and go out shooting
Nice work with the shift. I don't need a shift, I don't need a shift, I don't need a shift



Reagan
Registered: Jan 10, 2010
Total Posts: 4616
Country: United States

saph wrote:
Thanks Ray, I will need to plan for a month in which Reagan doesn't sell his lenses

MDoc9523 wrote:
Thank you Samy. Come on down and we'll get together with Reagan and go out shooting
Nice work with the shift. I don't need a shift, I don't need a shift, I don't need a shift




It won't be this month

Reagan



mp356
Registered: May 31, 2009
Total Posts: 5639
Country: United States

Oosty wrote:
mp356 wrote:
Winter continues but with some nice sun. Taken yesterday with the 28 2.8 ais. I intentionally went out at midday in the bright sun to see what kind of image could be obtained in the harsh light. Thanks for looking.
Scott


I missed this one Scott - really handled the light beautifully. Well done.


Thank you Peter.



Reagan
Registered: Jan 10, 2010
Total Posts: 4616
Country: United States

Ron, nice photos with the 50-135
Leighton, I like the rainbow shot also. Well done
David, beautiful photo of the pond

Reagan



Reagan
Registered: Jan 10, 2010
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Country: United States

Ray, nice bird photos again

Reagan



designdog
Registered: Oct 05, 2004
Total Posts: 227
Country: United States

Great eagle shots, Mr. Woodard, I was thinking about your 300mm, but realize you are getting more out of it on the D7000.

Now, can I set my D700 to DX coverage and do the same thing? Forgive me, but I have only been a Nikonian about a week now...



mp356
Registered: May 31, 2009
Total Posts: 5639
Country: United States

Jeff, thank you for the comment.
Scott



pbraymond
Registered: Oct 23, 2009
Total Posts: 1941
Country: United States

Leighton, nice rainbow shots.

Matt, well wishes going your way for fast healing through the therapy.

Nice eagles, Ray

I missed it somewhere, Leighton convalescing? Well wishes to you to.

Samy, thanks for the pic on the shifted 28. I've always wondered what happened inside the lens.

Scott, great midday shot. Winter is nice that way, even high noon has some angled lighting in the north.

Kevin, the parking lot and arrows is way cool.

Monty and AF, and his favorite MF lens is the 85 f1.4? I predict more $$$ leaving the household once he tries an 85 AF ...... be warned!



mp356
Registered: May 31, 2009
Total Posts: 5639
Country: United States

pbraymond wrote:

Scott, great midday shot. Winter is nice that way, even high noon has some angled lighting in the north.



Thank you for the comment Ray.



Oosty
Registered: Mar 09, 2009
Total Posts: 4209
Country: South Africa

MDoc9523 wrote:
Here are some Eagle shots from today. These birds are amazing to watch.They are so majestic that I didn't want to leave! All of these were shot with the D7000 and the 300mm 4.5 EDIF all were wide open save the second one at F11



Gorgeous. How did you get so close? Is there a blind?



Oosty
Registered: Mar 09, 2009
Total Posts: 4209
Country: South Africa

saph wrote:
Ray, I need to visit Florida just so I can take a picture of your pet eagle too Very nice.

I have seen occasional comments on the 28PC being complicated or people not sure how to use it, so I wanted to try to explain the basic mechanism of shifting in the next couple posts.

First pic is with the regular 20 3.5 UD lens, no shift or anything possible. From where I was standing I couldn't avoid getting the lane in the foreground in the frame. That's the iconic University of Maryland "M" on Campus Drive.



Next pic is with the 28 3.5 PC using the shift function to get rid of the foreground lane and instead get more of the sky. A better composition (I hope ) and removing the unwanted foreground.


Edit to this: both "M" pictures are the complete frames that were captured, no cropping.

And some pics of the lens in shifted and unshifted states next..


Samy, the use of the lens to control the perspective is the most impressive aspect. Even if you'd use the 28 2.8 (focal length equivalent) at that distance the buildings would have looked as if they were falling slightly backwards.






a.RodriguezPix
Registered: Oct 31, 2011
Total Posts: 2236
Country: United States

nikon d700 old nikkor 85mm 1.4 ais, handheld and hacked via lightroom 4

a Americo.Rodriguez photo-37 by aNikkorGuy, on Flickr



a Americo.Rodriguez photo-17 by aNikkorGuy, on Flickr




a Americo.Rodriguez photo-666 by aNikkorGuy, on Flickr



MarkdV
Registered: Jul 05, 2012
Total Posts: 1152
Country: Poland

It seems I'm about a day behind Peter on the eye front. Woke up this morning and it's very red and hard to open.

However I have 2 eyes and the other one can see some amazing photos that you've all posted in the last couple of days. That amazing rainbow from Hoppy (Leighton), great winter shot from Ray, really making that harsh light work for you, David showing that the D700 is still an awesome piece of kit along with a sharp 85mm f2, and back to Ray and his fantastico D7000 / 300mm combo along with a co-operative eagle looking very majestic.

David, you could set your D700 to crop mode but you can always crop in post production anyway to give exactly the same result and still leave yourself the full frame to play with in case you need it.

Samy, that's very interesting on the PC lens. I nearly bought one just before Christmas but chickened out at the last minute thinking I didn't really need one...and just spent a couple of days photographing buildings wishing I had one.

Here's one from Italy (Mantova). It's with the Series E 28mm which I think is a great lens for results but feels wrong somehow. It's focussed with my left eye so using the green focus dot as the viewfinder is set up for my right eye, if there is any issue witht he sharpness this is why and not the lens.



Oosty
Registered: Mar 09, 2009
Total Posts: 4209
Country: South Africa

Mark, a virus via the internet? Can't happen.........I'm going to plug McAfee into my ear



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