Manual Focus Nikon Glass
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charles sharpe
Registered: Jun 14, 2008
Total Posts: 123
Country: United Kingdom

asiostygius wrote:
charles sharpe wrote:
Hello.

Would any of you have some shots taken with a Nikon 600mm 5.6 lens hand held. I bought it in the summer and I don't it is as it should be. The images just not sharp, I have tried it on my D3 and on the D3s and the is no difference between the two.

Charles.


Hi Charles.

I bought this lens more than 3 years ago and never used it hand held. I think you have to use it at least with a monopod or a beanbag as support. Though hand held shots are not impossible, you will need at least 1/800s (I would say 1/1000s) shutter speed to get decent images.

Another very important thing to check is the focusing of your body and lens comibination:

My 600/5.6 is perfectly focused on the (O) focus confirmation dot in the D3, but on the other hand, in my D7000 I have found that I need a (>O) blinking for perfect focused images (!)
So, this is a kind of focus tunning for each lens + body combo.

The 600/5.6 telephot by itself is very sharp, but needs at least a beanbag:


Burrowing Owl with a 600mm f/5.6 ais by labecoaves, on Flickr
Burrowing Owl
Nikkor AI-S 600mm f/5.6 EDIF, support was a beanbag on the car window sill
D300 1/100s f/8 ISO 200 at ~8m



But I often use a tripod:


Thraupis sayaca with a Nikkor 600mm f/5.6 AIS EDIF by labecoaves, on Flickr
Sayaca Tanager
D7000 + 600mm ais f/5.6 MF EDIF + tripod.
Tanager at 5m, the MFD of the lens, no crop needed!
Even using f/11 the DOF is very limited.



_D3C1514 by labecoaves, on Flickr

Palm Tanager
Nikkor AI-S 600mm f/5.6 ED-IF at minimum focus distance (5m), tripod + flash
D3 1/250 f/11 ISO 500



A vigilant Cock-tailed Tyrant female above her nest by labecoaves, on Flickr

A vigilant Cock-tailed Tyrant female above her nest
D300 + Nikkor 600mm f/5.6 AIS EDIF+ tripod, ISO 250, f/8 at 1/200s, ~40% crop.

Hi.

I must be brain dead I thought the lens/body test was for auto focus only.

Charles.



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

At least for me several of my MF Nikkors have different focus points (regarding to the focus confirmation green dot of the camera).

For example:

50mm f/1.8 AIS:
D7000 (> O) blinking
D3 (O)

85mm f/1.8 K AI'd:
D7000 (O < ) blinking
D3 (O < ) blinking

200mm f/4 AIS:
both cameras (O)

etc

The fastest way to found the best focusing of each MF lens/body is using live view, than look at the dot (> O , O, < O).



DTOB
Registered: Oct 07, 2010
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Country: Canada

I only use the dot when it's dark. Otherwise I just go by eye.



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

DTOB wrote:
I only use the dot when it's dark. Otherwise I just go by eye.


My eyes are not as good as yours, so I made these simple tests to extract the best from each lens



montym
Registered: Jul 19, 2003
Total Posts: 4717
Country: United States

asiostygius wrote:
DTOB wrote:
I only use the dot when it's dark. Otherwise I just go by eye.


My eyes are not as good as yours, so I made these simple tests to extract the best from each lens


I go by the dot.
If I have time when shooting I move the focus ring back and forth a bit....



Slabshaft
Registered: Oct 02, 2012
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Another one with my 24mm f/2.8 AI on the D600. Nice wintery weather at Sunset Crater national monument.



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

Wow, jaw dropping scenario John!
The moon is very special in the composition.



charles sharpe
Registered: Jun 14, 2008
Total Posts: 123
Country: United Kingdom

I don't know why I thought you only needed to the focus thing with auto glass.
It just goes to show what I know.

Charles.



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

My last image contributions to the thread at least until 29 December, since I will travel to the countryside tomorrow morning.

Another (really) old slide from April 1994 with the 50mm f/2 AI + 20mm tube:

Resting Grasshopper at night.


Resting Grasshopper at night - slide dupe by labecoaves, on Flickr

Original image: Nikon FM2 + 20mm tube + 50mm f/2 AI + Vivitar circular macro flash, hand held, Velvia ISO 50, f/16 at 1/250s.
Dupe: D7000 + 20mm tube+55mm f/2.8 micro+ES-1 Slide copying adapter; f/8, flash bounced at white wall behind slide, ISO 100.


For Monty a B&W version:


Resting Grasshopper at night - slide dupe - B&W version by labecoaves, on Flickr



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

asiostygius wrote:
My last image contributions to the thread at least until 29 December, since I will travel to the countryside tomorrow morning.

Another (really) old slide from April 1994 with the 50mm f/2 AI + 20mm tube:

Resting Grasshopper at night.
...
...
For Monty a B&W version:
...


Jose, I take the liberty to enjoy your B&W-version of this great shot too ;-)
Have a nice and very productive travel, Georg!



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

asiostygius wrote:
Wow, jaw dropping scenario John!
The moon is very special in the composition.


+1 I really like the strong off-centered composition. Great job!



leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12621
Country: United States

Slabshaft wrote:
Another one with my 24mm f/2.8 AI on the D600. Nice wintery weather at Sunset Crater national monument.



Worthy of another look! Love how you framed the moon.



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

MarkdV wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
Mark what a great capture of the boy in the bath!


Thanks Ray.

Because it was a slow day on the forum I have had the luxery of being able to go back and again enjoy your film shots, as you know it's normally so hectic just trying to keep up.

The first time around I was caught by your shot of the green fruits (and I still like it) but when I went back I really was drawn into your shot of the house and the reflection, so much that I had to dig out some of my old magazines to some pictures I had seen before. I don't know if you are familiar with a photographer called Paul Graham but he did a trilogy on America with 3 very different styles. Your shot really reminded me of his second book, 'A shimmer of posibility' (which was my favourite of the 3). It's a really good use of the 16mm and I'm glad I got a chance to get back to it.

Mark.


Thank you Mark, That is quite a compliment and I really appreciate the comparison. The 16mm is one of the main reasons fro my purchase of the FA



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

Oosty wrote:
Ray - I think you're overly critical of your 1st efforts but we know you as a perfectionist (not a bad thing in a doctor! )

I loved film but found it very demanding.

Correct exposure is critical in each of the areas that affect the final result - making the image and exposing the negative during printing. The first you can control but as far as the second is concerned you're in the hands of the lab which processes the film and a bunch of new factors come into play - time in process, the condition of chemicals, the "automatic" evaluation of an optimum result and finally the printing of the results to a file to be saved to CD.

I think the reason so many professional and serious amateurs used colour slide film was that professional labs seemed to process it better but I'm not really sure about that.

Digital cameras seem to be much more forgiving in addition to which we have the luxury of immediate feedback and pp manipulation.

I doubt very much that I would take more than 1 roll of film a year if digital hadn't reignited what used to be a passion when I was 40 years younger!


Thank you Peter I appreciate the encouragement. I took another look at the originals and I can see it is just a matter of me getting used to the metering system of this camera. I am having fun



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

asiostygius wrote:
Thank you Leighton, Rafael, Mark, John, georg, Scott, Peter and Ray for the very kind words.

Rafael, please, let us know how the D800 pixel density delivers slide dupes;

Ray, gorgeous first shots with the FA; I liked the grain on the first one, but the 16/3.5 images are beautiful too.

Jose thank you I am going to enjoy using this camera.
Your shots are always amazing but this recent batch is outstandingly good!



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

leighton w wrote:
Slabshaft wrote:
Another one with my 24mm f/2.8 AI on the D600. Nice wintery weather at Sunset Crater national monument.



Worthy of another look! Love how you framed the moon.

That's for sure. What a terrific shot!



raboof
Registered: Mar 04, 2011
Total Posts: 2094
Country: United States

asiostygius wrote:
Wow, jaw dropping scenario John!
The moon is very special in the composition.


+1

Makes me long for some snow. I know, I might get a few feet tomorrow...



Lieutenant Z
Registered: Nov 21, 2010
Total Posts: 3777
Country: France

Thanks everyone for comments on my shot.

Jose, I prefer the color version
Peter, ALL the guys married to italian women are very lucky!



Lieutenant Z
Registered: Nov 21, 2010
Total Posts: 3777
Country: France

85 HC :



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

Philippe, wow, another stellar shot! I like the synchronized goers and the standing man as a pictorial anchor/foundation (sorry, don't have the words). I'm nit-picking now: it would benefit from a minimal rotation clockwise in my opinion.



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