new nikon glass
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mikeleslie
Registered: Nov 15, 2008
Total Posts: 608
Country: United States

Oh no I need one of these...

http://www.bobkrist.com/blog/fast-wide-and-handsome/

...mikel



mosier
Registered: Feb 02, 2008
Total Posts: 1500
Country: United States

I love Nikon I really do. Their 24-70, 70-200 and my newly acquired 45mm T/S are remarkable, BUT the price for the new 24 1.4 is just outrageous! $2199? I'm sorry, but that's just insane! Now the 16-35 f/4 VR, seems a bit more reasonable. If I decide I need wider then my 24-70, that's what I'd go for.

It's really a shame that Nikon is raising their prices so high. I just can't imagine this lens being much better if at all better then the Canon 24L. I guess we'll find out. Thank god I'm not a wide shooter

Cheers,
Jeff



hardlyboring
Registered: Apr 19, 2008
Total Posts: 5864
Country: United States

I just saw the sticker price
So nikon shooters have an option.
Option 1: Outfit yourself with all the neeto nikon gadgets D3, d3s, 24 1.4, 14-24, 70-200, etc. and ride your bike to the weddings
or
Option 2: Outfit yourself with fine Canon equipment and have enough left over to buy a lightly used BMW to ride in style to the weddings in!

doh
Doug



Tony Hoffer
Registered: Mar 14, 2008
Total Posts: 7305
Country: United States

Even at $2200, it's still a much better investment than any camera body, car, or lots of other essentials.

You could probably own this lens for 5-10 years and then sell it for 75% of it's original value.



deepbluejh
Registered: Feb 20, 2005
Total Posts: 5228
Country: United States

Remember, $2200 is just MSRP. It'll see less than that at reputable online vendors.

And my personal opinion is that these will be great additions to the Nikon lineup. They have been sorely needing a 24/1.4 for a long time. Now if they would just add a 35/1.4, a revised 85/1.4 and a revised 135/2, Nikon could more or less dissolve Canon's prime advantage.



Jimsokay
Registered: Feb 15, 2005
Total Posts: 803
Country: United States

100% agree with Tony.

The samples from the above link have my interest.



ai3x
Registered: May 02, 2005
Total Posts: 1661
Country: United Kingdom

deepbluejh wrote:
Remember, $2200 is just MSRP. It'll see less than that at reputable online vendors.

And my personal opinion is that these will be great additions to the Nikon lineup. They have been sorely needing a 24/1.4 for a long time. Now if they would just add a 35/1.4, a revised 85/1.4 and a revised 135/2, Nikon could more or less dissolve Canon's prime advantage.


Don't worry I think they're coming. Nikon spent a while updating it's zooms but they're all done and now it's prime season.



mosier
Registered: Feb 02, 2008
Total Posts: 1500
Country: United States

Tony Hoffer wrote:
Even at $2200, it's still a much better investment than any camera body, car, or lots of other essentials.

You could probably own this lens for 5-10 years and then sell it for 75% of it's original value.


I won't disagree with that Tony! And if one is a wide shooter, I'm sure it will be an amazing lens to own. I just see Nikon prices sky rocketing past everyone else. Like I said I love Nikon gear and will continue to, I'm just shocked. Maybe it will be the greatest 24 photographers have ever seen

Cheers,
Jeff



johnwphoto
Registered: Jan 20, 2010
Total Posts: 48
Country: United States

Yes - a hefty price tag, but still something I've been waiting for. Its more than just the 24 mm FL, the prime and super wide aperture make shooting with this lens more than just another lens in your bag. Can't wait to see more images coming off this lens.



asimsoofi
Registered: Apr 26, 2006
Total Posts: 1764
Country: United States

Lenses don't lose very much value.

Just like wedding photographers, you get what you pay for.

/asim



swim_r
Registered: Jun 18, 2006
Total Posts: 661
Country: United States

I still dont understand why anyone would buy a 16-35 f/4 when nikon's 14-24 2.8 is so amazing... well worth the extra $500 or so for the optical quality of the 12-24 imo



Phyl
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 1494
Country: United States

It's there!

Notify. Check.



deepbluejh
Registered: Feb 20, 2005
Total Posts: 5228
Country: United States

swim_r wrote:
I still dont understand why anyone would buy a 16-35 f/4 when nikon's 14-24 2.8 is so amazing... well worth the extra $500 or so for the optical quality of the 12-24 imo


Expect the actual price difference to be larger than that. The MSRP of the 14-24 is almost *twice* that of the 16-35 (2400 vs 1250)



Jed Eltom
Registered: May 22, 2009
Total Posts: 587
Country: Canada

Between my 14 - 24 and my 24 - 70, I really don't see why I would buy a 24 prime. I get the whole blurry background/low light thing, but for $2200, I don't think I care for a 3rd 24mm lens.



mikeleslie
Registered: Nov 15, 2008
Total Posts: 608
Country: United States

Oh crap...

http://nikonrumors.com/2010/04/14/thom-hogan-nikon-af-s-85mm-f1-4g-vr-coming-very-very-soon-now.aspx

I will need this one too...

...m



Sam Obeid
Registered: Nov 01, 2007
Total Posts: 740
Country: Canada

I have the 24mm f/1.4G, it sucks....worst lens ever. I'm sure the 85mm will suck too but I'm sure I'll buy it too.



mosier
Registered: Feb 02, 2008
Total Posts: 1500
Country: United States

mikeleslie wrote:
Oh crap...

http://nikonrumors.com/2010/04/14/thom-hogan-nikon-af-s-85mm-f1-4g-vr-coming-very-very-soon-now.aspx

I will need this one too...

...m


I already bought it just not sure when it's shipping



kick1578
Registered: Mar 31, 2006
Total Posts: 210
Country: United States

mosier wrote:
mikeleslie wrote:
Oh crap...

http://nikonrumors.com/2010/04/14/thom-hogan-nikon-af-s-85mm-f1-4g-vr-coming-very-very-soon-now.aspx

I will need this one too...

...m


I already bought it just not sure when it's shipping


+1



Saad Syed
Registered: Jan 24, 2007
Total Posts: 2914
Country: United States

The price difference between Canon and Nikon isn't something that should be looked at in a black and white manner (no pun intended). First look at what system provides the features, ergonomics, and design that fits your way of working. Nikon fits me better, so even if I switched back to Canon for its lower priced lenses, I wouldn't be a fit with the system and thus unhappy.

Also, when considering prices between the two companies, realize that they might use different coatings, optical designs, and construction materials.

Moreover, like Tony said - it's an investment that holds its value (far better than computers, cars, etc.)



Zerga
Registered: Jan 11, 2005
Total Posts: 1145
Country: United States

I'm definitely gettin one...



Avi B
Registered: Dec 07, 2006
Total Posts: 6069
Country: Canada

Saad Syed wrote:
The price difference between Canon and Nikon isn't something that should be looked at in a black and white manner (no pun intended). First look at what system provides the features, ergonomics, and design that fits your way of working. Nikon fits me better, so even if I switched back to Canon for its lower priced lenses, I wouldn't be a fit with the system and thus unhappy.

Also, when considering prices between the two companies, realize that they might use different coatings, optical designs, and construction materials.

Moreover, like Tony said - it's an investment that holds its value (far better than computers, cars, etc.)


Well, aside from all that, there is also the longer lens warranty. It's 5 years on Nikkor lenses. That in itself is worth it. And the other thing is, Nikon's lens QC tends to be pretty good, as compared to others... Is your peace of mind worth it? Or will you have to go through 4 or 5 copies to find the "sharp/focussing" one.

And yes, great lenses hold their value very well.

The other thing you guys sometimes forget is that the US$ has gone down in value. So everything that's luxury is going to cost more. Sorry.



Mishu01
Registered: Nov 20, 2009
Total Posts: 1178
Country: Romania

No offence... Instead to drive a BMW and to shoot Canon I prefer a bike and to shoot Nikon! Canon has some good things to offer but is very inconsistent. Nikon system is a trademark for quality - I have just one life and I want to use the best system - no space for compromise.

hardlyboring wrote:
I just saw the sticker price
So nikon shooters have an option.
Option 1: Outfit yourself with all the neeto nikon gadgets D3, d3s, 24 1.4, 14-24, 70-200, etc. and ride your bike to the weddings
or
Option 2: Outfit yourself with fine Canon equipment and have enough left over to buy a lightly used BMW to ride in style to the weddings in!

doh
Doug



cputeq
Registered: Jun 25, 2008
Total Posts: 2294
Country: United States

swim_r wrote:
I still dont understand why anyone would buy a 16-35 f/4 when nikon's 14-24 2.8 is so amazing... well worth the extra $500 or so for the optical quality of the 12-24 imo


Not to detail the thread, but there are enough distinct differences that the 16-35 is more valuable to some people than the 14-24.

1) I like the distortion at 16mm - I almost get a fisheye for free

2) I like, no, love using CPLs and I'm not paying out the Wazoo for a custom Lee filter setup.

3) VRII has already proven itself extremely useful.

4) The lens is plenty, plenty sharp for me, and I have an extra $500



Chestnut
Registered: Feb 02, 2005
Total Posts: 458
Country: United States

Mishu01 wrote:
No offence... Instead to drive a BMW and to shoot Canon I prefer a bike and to shoot Nikon! Canon has some good things to offer but is very inconsistent. Nikon system is a trademark for quality - I have just one life and I want to use the best system - no space for compromise.


Better make sure you don't get hit by a Canon-toting BMW while carrying/balancing all your Nikons on your bike



SoundHound
Registered: Jan 14, 2006
Total Posts: 4810
Country: United States

Realize that if you had a Canon (I have both their FFs) you would need to buy and use their 24mm F1.4-often @ F1.4! That's because Canon is 1 1/2 to 2 hi ISO stops behind the D3s in hi ISO noise. I am very happy with my Nikkor F2.8s zooms and their DOF.

Now waiting for a new Nikkor 85mm VRed F1.4 which, even though slower that the 85L, will be, effectively much faster due to Canon's refusal to make a 12/16 Mp FF low noise body.



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