Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems
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chippy_jersey
Registered: Feb 01, 2010
Total Posts: 34
Country: United Kingdom

The problem is I haven't got a copy of the old firmware and having done a google search for 1D400104.FIR has drawn a blank!



ChrisDar
Registered: Jul 06, 2005
Total Posts: 461
Country: United States

chippy_jersey wrote:
The problem is I haven't got a copy of the old firmware and having done a google search for 1D400104.FIR has drawn a blank!


I'm sure someone here has a version of the old FW on their computer. If not find someone with a Mark IV that hasn't updated and ask them to save a version to their computer and email it to you.



fraga
Registered: Sep 10, 2005
Total Posts: 1867
Country: Portugal

Chris, I believe all initial cameras were shipped with 104.FIR version, so it's not available for download anywhere.

Edit:
we posted at the same time.



John--G
Registered: May 28, 2003
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Country: United States

uz2work wrote:
Next, my guess is that, throughout the country yesterday, there were people shooting NBA games, NHL games, and all kinds of sports and other action with their 1D Mark IVs and the new firmware, and I'd guess that, with the internet being what it is, there would already be a firestorm on the internet if there was a genuine problem with the firmware.


Yep - I shot three basketball games on Friday night, about 3500 photos in all. My MkIV was focusing perfectly with 1.0.6.




Spider
Registered: Jan 21, 2003
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fraga wrote:
Chris, I believe all initial cameras were shipped with 104.FIR version, so it's not available for download anywhere.

Edit:
we posted at the same time.


Yes, that's correct



kazman442
Registered: Aug 27, 2005
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Country: United States

So far no problem with my 1.06 on swans and ducks over the weekend, I didn't notice any real difference but I have not used the camera much before the updated firmware, I also used the 500f4 with a 1.4 mounted. Ron



John--G
Registered: May 28, 2003
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Country: United States

ChrisDar wrote:
Don't know why Canon told you not to reinstall the previous firmware unless something has changed drastically between the Mark III and Mark IV (so do it at your own risk).


Not sure either. This has always been a problem in that Canon typically does not offer the initial FW for download. Nor do they ever advocate going back to an earlier version (which is something I have done many times with the old MkII). So if you are an early adopter there is no way to preserve or re-download the initial FW.

I just received my MkIV on Friday afternoon and after I confirmed that it wasn't DOA I went ahead and installed 1.0.6 before heading out to the games. I am usually hesitant to install new FW but I had not read any bad reports and given that Canon was so quick to release the fix I assumed it was warranted.

Thankfully it worked fine for the basketball games.

Perhaps it is just a quirk with the 500/4 lens. I know hindsight is 20-20 but if I had been you guys with three cameras and three lenses I would have left ONE of the cameras loaded with the old FW so you could do evaluations on your own. Who else is likely to have access to duplicate sets of cameras and lenses. Oh well.




John--G
Registered: May 28, 2003
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fraga wrote:
Chris, I believe all initial cameras were shipped with 104.FIR version, so it's not available for download anywhere.


I don't think 1.0.4 was ever available for download was it?




chippy_jersey
Registered: Feb 01, 2010
Total Posts: 34
Country: United Kingdom

Is it possible to pull the 1.0.4 firmware out of an upgraded body?



scalesusa
Registered: Sep 02, 2008
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If there was one software download applied to the three cameras, there is a very slight chance that it was a problem. I'd download it again and seee if it makes a difference.

With CRC checks thatwould be done on the file as it is installed, it is almost impossible for a error to creep in, but not totally impossible.



fraga
Registered: Sep 10, 2005
Total Posts: 1867
Country: Portugal

John--G wrote:
fraga wrote:
Chris, I believe all initial cameras were shipped with 104.FIR version, so it's not available for download anywhere.


I don't think 1.0.4 was ever available for download was it?





I'm pretty sure it wasn't.
Historically, canon never provides the initial FW version for download.



Jonesy
Registered: Jan 30, 2005
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Country: United States

Can we see pics that you guys shot that show the problem?



chippy_jersey
Registered: Feb 01, 2010
Total Posts: 34
Country: United Kingdom

I've deleted mine, although symptoms are quite obvious they are MILES out of focus.....I'm not talking a little soft, it's focussed on the wrong part of the frame, etc I mean WAY OOF!



PierreB
Registered: Feb 23, 2005
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Country: United Kingdom

This does not sound good - another technical (and PR) disaster for Canon. Mine is working beautifully so no firmware upgrade for me.



Jonesy
Registered: Jan 30, 2005
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Country: United States

I upgraded mine but I really haven't shot anything since... Makes me want to go shoot something lol



chesapeake
Registered: Aug 14, 2008
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Country: United States

For what it's worth, I installed the new firmware the day it was released and I notice no difference. Ive only mounted the 24-105 and the 70-200/2.8 and both work just as with the last firmware. I think one way to get to rule out some factors would be to provide all of your custom functions and see if you have selected any variables that could interfere with autofocus tracking or rather with the autofocus tracking mode you think you are using. I understand you may not want to post those settings but it seems pointless to go on in a thread like this without more specific information. Your ability as a photographer is certainoly not in doubt, all anyone has to do is to look at your work, it's superb. I'm thinking that some custom function has been altered and you don't know it. Hope I'm not offending anyone but I just don't have an issue with the new firmware.
Cheers-Chuck



Susquehanna
Registered: Dec 19, 2005
Total Posts: 7
Country: United States

I also have been experiencing the same issues... I currently have a mark III and a IIn so i dont believe its user error because I'm very familiar with the 1 Series body.. Got my IV and installed the new firmware right way. Went out with my 500f4 to shoot incoming canada geese like i always do with my other 2 bodies.. I didnt get 1 usable image.. not even 1 close to being in focus.. all were way off. I had plenty of shutter speed and was using a full wimberly and the background is pretty clean.. i was shooting with CF settings pretty much the same as my mark III... I tried again this morning with the sportsshooter CF settings and a 400 f 5.6 prime with the same results... I have now reset my CF funtions to default and will try again tomorrow....

This is very frustrating... I cant understand why a 5000.00 body and an even more expensive lens would be so out of focus...



chippy_jersey
Registered: Feb 01, 2010
Total Posts: 34
Country: United Kingdom

Let us know how it goes.

My CF settings (III for AF) are:-

1 = 0
2 = 0
3 = 0
4 = 0
5 = 0
6 = 1
7 = 0
8 = 1 (also tried 2 which was rubbish)
9 = 0
10 = 0
11 = 1
12 = 0
13 = 2 (only works in one shot anyway)
14 = 1
15 = 0
16 = 1
17 = 0
18 = disable
19 = disable



chippy_jersey
Registered: Feb 01, 2010
Total Posts: 34
Country: United Kingdom

Think I'll take my camera to work tomorrow with my 24-105 and try it out on some passing cars at lunchtime. At least I might be able to determine whether it's purely a problem when used in conjuction with the 500 F4



fredster
Registered: Jun 08, 2006
Total Posts: 223
Country: United States

Thats a shame. I have yet to try any flight shots i did install the. new firmware but everything seems fine. sorry to hea.r the bad news



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