ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
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Ronny Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 4862
Country: Sweden


Carl Zeiss 1.4/85 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Carl zeiss distagon T* 2/35 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr



Taylor Sherman
Registered: Mar 26, 2012
Total Posts: 1552
Country: United States

Great shots Ronny! Hard to believe the 2nd one is 35mm.


DSC09110.jpg by Taylor Sherman, on Flickr


Nex-7 + ZF 100/2


Taylor Sherman
Registered: Mar 26, 2012
Total Posts: 1552
Country: United States

And one w/ the ZM50


DSC09169.jpg by Taylor Sherman, on Flickr



Samuli Vahonen
Registered: Jul 16, 2003
Total Posts: 1892
Country: Finland

Finally!!!! I found "defect" from APO-Sonnar T* 2/135, slight green and magenta tint (just tint due to bokeh CA being much smaller than 1px). This is the worst I have been able to create, and I have really tried...

Carl Zeiss APO-Sonnar T* 2/135 @ f/2, 1/250s, 5DmkII@ISO100


100% crop:


Samuli



Samuli Vahonen
Registered: Jul 16, 2003
Total Posts: 1892
Country: Finland

We had discussion about 2/135 vignetting/light fall off in HD images thread (see this post and few above by Toothwalker and myself) - I continue discussion here since it has nothing to do with HD images...

Toothwalker wrote:
The light falloff is measured at infinity, unless mentioned otherwise. In the case of the 2/100, the graph has three curves: F/2 at infinity, F/4 at infinity, and F/2 at 1:2. As far as vignetting is concerned, the 2/100 and 2/135 should be pretty close at infinity focus.

All lenses have less illumination falloff at close focus than at infinity.

Vignetting is also not something that is subject to sample variation --- unless the sample is run over by a truck. On the other hand, improper attachments may aggravate the falloff.

Here are 3 images, which are processed with dcraw and since it's open source it doesn't do any vignetting correction (at least I didn't find any code indicating it doing that) - Aperture and LightRoom may do whatever and may have features like lens profiles, so output from those may be also "whatever".

Please ignore ugly colour etc. in the 3 photos below, they are just added for discussion basis about this topic, and I didn't want to spend tens of minutes time tweaking correct color balance etc. with command line tool.







If the light fall-off is similar between Makro-Planar T* 2/100 and APO-Sonnar T* 2/135 according to lens PDF then there is one more factor, which also is mentioned by Lloyd in his blog: "The Zeiss 135mm f/2 APO-Sonnar has an exceptionally digital-friendly chief ray angle, and I would call it out as the best lens available on a DSLR today...". Maybe this is reason why 2/135 has less vignetting at landscapes @ f/2 that 2/100?







Of the two first images above here are versions with colors I prefer (done with Apple Aperture, with highlights slide restored more structure to clouds etc.) - HD versions in HD thread





Samuli



Johnny B Goode
Registered: Jan 15, 2012
Total Posts: 444
Country: United States

The shots below aren't great shots but they surprised me when I opened them. One is wide open, the other stopped down to f3.2. Not happy with the colors due to lighting and excessive makeup for a dance competition. That said, the excessive makeup really made me realize how sharp this lens is. 0 sharpening added. I couldn't. Any sharpening made them look 'fake'. I'll be taking these shots down soon because I don't feel they are the most flattering. Just impressed with the 50P. Wide open it's fun. Slightly stopped down the focus shift kills me. But when I get it right it's great.


IMG_1409 by Pete the Irish Guy, on Flickr



NDA by Pete the Irish Guy, on Flickr



Jochenb
Registered: May 25, 2010
Total Posts: 2058
Country: Belgium

Thanks Ronny.

I love the 50 planar Johnny. It has character. It can ruin photos or make them look great/more special.

Here's another shot with my 50P:


Pink glow by Jochen-B, on Flickr



Toothwalker
Registered: Jan 24, 2009
Total Posts: 1494
Country: Norway

Samuli Vahonen wrote:
If the light fall-off is similar between Makro-Planar T* 2/100 and APO-Sonnar T* 2/135 according to lens PDF then there is one more factor, which also is mentioned by Lloyd in his blog: "The Zeiss 135mm f/2 APO-Sonnar has an exceptionally digital-friendly chief ray angle, and I would call it out as the best lens available on a DSLR today...". Maybe this is reason why 2/135 has less vignetting at landscapes @ f/2 that 2/100?


It could make a difference, but a small one as the chief ray angle of the 2/100 is not particularly digital-unfriendly. (It is a pity that the lens specs are less detailed than in the Contax days; the position of the exit pupil is no longer listed.) Perhaps you can try to compare the vignetting directly?



Lieutenant Z
Registered: Nov 21, 2010
Total Posts: 3700
Country: France

Very nice Ronny
Johnny, I enjoyed the portrait with 50P

100 MP :



Ronny Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 4862
Country: Sweden

Thanks

Great shot Taylor and Johnny
Nice shot Jochen
Love it Z !


Carl Zeiss 1.4/85 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Carl Zeiss 1.4/85 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr





Neddie Seagoon
Registered: Nov 08, 2007
Total Posts: 481
Country: United States

Intrigued by this new 135. Anybody have any people/portraits that they would like to share from this lens?



johnahill
Registered: Jan 08, 2006
Total Posts: 3295
Country: United Kingdom

Some great photo's here.
Ronny the last set really sings.
Jochen, Lieutenant, great images.

Samuli, you're shots elevate these fairly ordinary scenes to something amazing. I hope that doesn't sound offending, i mean I've never seen trees and that type of landscape rendered so well.

Here's a quick one from me with the ZE50P from some local woodland i've only recently started visiting, it was raining quite heavily but I'm not sure that is visible in the image.



JaKo
Registered: Aug 08, 2011
Total Posts: 1806
Country: Canada

Chilliwack, British Columbia








Blackout
Registered: Aug 06, 2011
Total Posts: 40
Country: France

Neddie Seagoon wrote:
Intrigued by this new 135. Anybody have any people/portraits that they would like to share from this lens?


Wide open


Stopped down



And a few others from the Apo Sonnar (all in larger size on my Flickr page)





















rirakuma
Registered: Jan 26, 2012
Total Posts: 573
Country: Australia

that lens is very impressive



Neddie Seagoon
Registered: Nov 08, 2007
Total Posts: 481
Country: United States

Wow.

Cheers, Blackout. Very nice, and I'm sure that the fantastic quality of these shots is totally down to the lens and when I get one I'll be able to do just as well....

Thanks.



Lieutenant Z
Registered: Nov 21, 2010
Total Posts: 3700
Country: France

Another one with 100 MP :



rpiotr01
Registered: May 15, 2013
Total Posts: 29
Country: United States

Hi everyone, new poster here. Quick question for this particular group - does anyone own and use both the 35 2 and 50 1.4?

I rented a 35 2 last summer for a few days and liked it so much I've have had my heart set on one ever since, but I've also always been a fan of a fast 50 and I like the sample images I've seen from the 50 1.4, pretty different than the way my Sigma 50 1.4 renders.

Thanks, and let me say there are more outstanding photos in this thread than I could appreciate in a lifetime!



dthrog00
Registered: Jan 30, 2012
Total Posts: 474
Country: United States

rpiotr01,

Others here may be able to help you better than I can. I tried the 2/35 last summer on the Canon 60D and greatly enjoyed it. I never used it on a full frame camera. I picked up the Zeiss 1.4/50 this past December and the full frame 6D in March. Both lenses are great although the 50 has become much more fun to use on full frame.

The 50 is harder to use because of focus shift. If you are shooting at at f/2 to f/4 from close range you need to double check focus with the lens stopped down (I use DOF preview button) to verify focus hasn't changed from where it was at f/1.4 Personally, I've only had to modify my focus a handful of times, but it's worth keeping in mind.

How do you like the Sigma? As you mentioned the Zeiss 50 renders differently. It's really sharp stopped down and has lots of character near wide open. I have lots of images on Flickr with it if you want to see them:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68255851@N05/tags/zeissplanart1450/

If you have the Sigma 50 and like it maybe the Zeiss 2/35 would be a better fit for you?

Dave



Frogfish
Registered: May 20, 2011
Total Posts: 4809
Country: China

I'd forgotten how simply superb the work in this thread is !

Hoping not to drag it down too much. All Zeiss 21/2.8 on a D800.

Birding and bird pic processing has gone to the back-burner during this week's rain, so a chance to process some of the outstanding 2,000 shots or more from NZ that remain after 'The Cull'











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