ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
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shervin2
Registered: Dec 27, 2012
Total Posts: 63
Country: N/A

CZ 50mm 1.7 Planar at F2.8.



rscheffler
Registered: Aug 23, 2005
Total Posts: 4981
Country: Canada

Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Are people here considering to upgrade to the new 1,4/55? If so why - for the f/1.4 performance

carstenw wrote:
I do consider it, for the wide open performance and close to that, but I am undecided yet. It depends on the price, and the exact performance. I won't be pre-ordering. It also depends on what they do with that focusing rubber


Don't get your hopes up Carsten. Zeiss just won an iF design award for the 55/1.4. Also for a couple of the upcoming mirrorless system lenses, which have the same looking rubber rings.

Quote: The high-end SLR lens [55/1.4] that will come on the market at the end of 2013 reflects the new design language the best: the funnel-shaped form, a surface that is soft to the touch, the optimized focus ring and other details will contribute to even better manageability and an unmistakable look.

Martin Dominicus, Head of Marketing of the Carl Zeiss Camera Lens Division, says: “For the first time, we have established a design language that aims to convey the strengths and the identity of our lenses already through their appearance, how they feel to the human touch, and the impression they create.” The new product design language, which will be applied to all future lenses, was created in collaboration with the Stuttgart design studio Phoenix Design. “While ZEISS lenses have until now mainly been known for their technical precision, excellent image performance and ergonomics, our lenses will now also meet the highest aesthetic standards of our customers by becoming design objects in and of themselves,” explains Dominicus. “Not only are functional aspects such as convenient handling and operation important, but also the effect that is communicated through high-quality design.”



philip_pj
Registered: Apr 03, 2009
Total Posts: 3105
Country: Australia

"..our lenses will now also meet the highest aesthetic standards of our customers by becoming design objects in and of themselves,” explains Dominicus. “Not only are functional aspects such as convenient handling and operation important, but also the effect that is communicated through high-quality design.”

Apart from point-of-sale persuasion, how much of that 'high-quality design communication effect' will improve your images shot with it? 5%? 25% not at all? How much cheaper would the lens be if unshackled from this design overkill and its costs?

'becoming design objects in and of themselves' - sounds suspiciously close to 'objet de vertu, in which vertu is intended to suggest rich materials and a higher standard of refined facture and finish, and would typically exclude objects with a practical function, being restricted to "collector's pieces" that are purely decorative.'

A sad development, the day Carl Zeiss lost the plot, when techical excellence became well, not quite enough.



philip_pj
Registered: Apr 03, 2009
Total Posts: 3105
Country: Australia

But think of all the other photographers who will recognise the lens, having been 'communicated to by its design', and the status that will confer on you as the owner..think *how good* you will look brandishing this one in front of the other guys with a flourish, lol. Much more fun than taking photographs!



akul
Registered: May 30, 2010
Total Posts: 1611
Country: United States

There is nothing wrong with a good product design. Actually, as a concept, it is very important. On the other hand, whether I agree with their aesthetics is a different story. Once again, I would need to hold it in my hand to decide. From photos, it looks like a AF video lens.



frezeiss
Registered: Sep 13, 2011
Total Posts: 529
Country: Indonesia

hmm..good to know that the new Zeiss will be out of reach so I wont have to worry about it

Anyways, excellent photos on the last page! A week ago, I decided to give the D700 a spin a long affair with the XE-1. These are taken either with ZF 21, 35 or 100 MP.


































Ronny _Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 2547
Country: Sweden

Great shot everyone

Zeiss 85 P taken at 1.4


Carl Zeiss 1.4/85 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr



zhangyue
Registered: Jan 28, 2011
Total Posts: 2935
Country: United States

Frezeiss, love that kid portrait. Eyes are striking.



Samuli Vahonen
Registered: Jul 16, 2003
Total Posts: 1596
Country: Finland

Ronny _Olsson wrote:
Great shot everyone

Zeiss 85 P taken at 1.4


Carl Zeiss 1.4/85 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr


Ronny, best photo of dog I have seen in my life - dog look almost like clued on top of the background, hovering in air and front paws are in funny/awkward position.



Carl Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 2/100 @ f/8, 1/250s, ISO 100 - larger



Ronny _Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 2547
Country: Sweden

Thanks Samuli !! It means a lot when it comes from someone who is so good that you are
makes me very happy



mike reid
Registered: Nov 26, 2006
Total Posts: 2225
Country: United States

love the dog shot....stellar



Ronny _Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 2547
Country: Sweden

Thanks Mike



philip_pj
Registered: Apr 03, 2009
Total Posts: 3105
Country: Australia

mike I first read that as something else...
OK, some CY '3.5/100' (to use the new official CZ nomenclature) bokeh shots:



akul
Registered: May 30, 2010
Total Posts: 1611
Country: United States

frezeiss - beautiful series!

Ronny - Amazing job !!



joakim
Registered: Apr 06, 2008
Total Posts: 1537
Country: Sweden

Ronny, fantastic photo of your dog!



frezeiss
Registered: Sep 13, 2011
Total Posts: 529
Country: Indonesia

Michael, Luka.. thanks!

A couple more, tripod stuff. D700 + ZF 21













frezeiss
Registered: Sep 13, 2011
Total Posts: 529
Country: Indonesia

Dooh, I think flickr alteres the file quality in some way



user222
Registered: Sep 13, 2007
Total Posts: 793
Country: United States

Nice set frezeiss. The tropical beach scenes are so inviting as I try to push through this NW winter.

Fabulous work with the 85 Ronny. The set of your daughter is lovely, and that capture of your dog is off the charts.



carstenw
Registered: Dec 26, 2005
Total Posts: 15971
Country: Germany

rscheffler wrote:
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Are people here considering to upgrade to the new 1,4/55? If so why - for the f/1.4 performance

carstenw wrote:
I do consider it, for the wide open performance and close to that, but I am undecided yet. It depends on the price, and the exact performance. I won't be pre-ordering. It also depends on what they do with that focusing rubber


Don't get your hopes up Carsten. Zeiss just won an iF design award for the 55/1.4. Also for a couple of the upcoming mirrorless system lenses, which have the same looking rubber rings.

Quote: The high-end SLR lens [55/1.4] that will come on the market at the end of 2013 reflects the new design language the best: the funnel-shaped form, a surface that is soft to the touch, the optimized focus ring and other details will contribute to even better manageability and an unmistakable look.

Martin Dominicus, Head of Marketing of the Carl Zeiss Camera Lens Division, says: “For the first time, we have established a design language that aims to convey the strengths and the identity of our lenses already through their appearance, how they feel to the human touch, and the impression they create.” The new product design language, which will be applied to all future lenses, was created in collaboration with the Stuttgart design studio Phoenix Design. “While ZEISS lenses have until now mainly been known for their technical precision, excellent image performance and ergonomics, our lenses will now also meet the highest aesthetic standards of our customers by becoming design objects in and of themselves,” explains Dominicus. “Not only are functional aspects such as convenient handling and operation important, but also the effect that is communicated through high-quality design.”


I guess I would live with the focusing ring if it really came down to it, but that is definitely a minus in my mind. I want some texture there so I don't have to think about whether it will grip, even if this smooth ring does grip. Why mess with perfection?

I am highly undecided about this lens. The few shots I have seen appeal to me, but I am not sure what I would do with it. I guess I need to see lots and lots of samples to decide if it would do anything for my photography. I am not sure that I would shoot so wide open much any more, and the ZF Planar is fantastic stopped down already.

If there is some 3D look to the results, that would help along my decision considerably

Essentially, this lens would have to be an improved drop-in replacement for the Planar for me to really want it. If not, it would be another lens, and I am unsure.



R.Young
Registered: Jul 01, 2011
Total Posts: 975
Country: United Kingdom

Great stuff frezeiss

21 ZE:


Loch Lomond by Rob.Young, on Flickr


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