Calvin, the columns are supposed to be art. Some 20+ years ago an artist called Daniel Buren was commissioned to erect "something" in the yard and garden of a beautiful period building (the Palais Royal, or royal palace) by our Minister of Culture. Needless to say, his columns raised a hell of a storm among the art and culture world. Since then the site has degenerated to the point that they had to be almost entirely redone, to the tune of 20M€ of taxpayer money. If only he had erected supersized "proper English chips" instead, there would have been no visual difference, but they would have served a function...

I found a 1921 version of the Zeiss 50, labeled 50 ZO (O for old?). Strangely, even when adapted on y 5D MkII, its shots retain its "period" looks...

calvininjax,

I knew that shot of a fast food stand in the US would get a rise out of someone from the other side of the pond! The appeal of "Olde English Pub" Style food is big here, and lots of people try to capitalize on this type format! Frankly the fried potatoes are usually lousy, however the fish can be quite good here on the coast of Maine.

Rick

There is malt vinegar on the shelf under the chicken fingers sign

Good eyeball Joekraft!

philber wrote:
I found a 1921 version of the Zeiss 50, labeled 50 ZO (O for old?). Strangely, even when adapted on y 5D MkII, its shots retain its "period" looks...

Very nice shots Phillber. But I wish you hadn't. You see yesterday I decided to complete my Zeiss set and ordered the ones I was missing, and I felt completeness. I'm even getting a 18mm ZF.2 at a discounted price because they don't have anymore 18mm ZFs. Now you show me a ZO, and it starts all over again.

Seriously nice and I like the B&W look.

Thanks for the kind words, but you get no sympathy from me on the purchasing side. You think that I hadn't noticed that your nick "BurningHeart" has the same initials as a certain gear shop in NYC?

I can almost here the accordion and "La Vie en Rose" with that last shot, Philber.
It indeed retained the old feel.
Jim

Philber,
Thanks for the info. The second B&W shot with the ZO is magnifique.

Rick,
I have yet to sample decent fish and chips since moving to the United States and living in Texas and Florida. Perhaps I need to try the North East.

Joekraft,
You are absolutely right. Damn my ageing eyes!

I am a Yankee calvin, but I'd bet I am almost as serious about malt vinegar as you are. Gotta have it.

It certainly makes a difference where fish and chips (fries) are concerned, joe.

Woe is me! This morning, we had a moment of beautiful light, with a light coat of snow, a welcome change over the last 2 weeks of miserable weather. I decided that I was going to use only my 85mm ZE, which I had been neglecting of late, in order to prepare myself to replace it with the 100 Makro. After all, none of you experts rate that 85 very highly, right? Also, it is not the easiest to use and not my favorite focal length, except for portrait, so giving it up didn't sound that painful. Right? Wrong! The lens, probably sensing that it might soon be reduced to "for sale-used" status, decided to teach me a lesson.
This is the lesson it taught me. I am in love -again-!

Philber,
Nice captures.I especially like the shadows in 1,3(also nice door), #2 has a nice 3D look to it.I wonder how my Rokinon would hold up againt the ZE 85?
-Jim

Lovely shots again, Philber. Some information on the building wouldn't go amiss.

I have a feeling the 85 may well remain in the fold along with the 100 Macro.

philber wrote:
Woe is me! ... giving it up didn't sound that painful. Right? Wrong! The lens, probably sensing that it might soon be reduced to "for sale-used" status, decided to teach me a lesson.
This is the lesson it taught me. I am in love -again-!

philber wrote:
Thanks for the kind words, but you get no sympathy from me ...

Back at you, no sympathy.

Seriously keep the 85 and get the 100 you'll be sorry if you don't. If you get rid of the 85 you'll have nothing between 50 and 100mm.

Philippe, the photos of the building are absolute terrific! There is absolute no feeling of watching photo, but instead real strong feeling watching the building itself. These again made me really want to have 85mm Planar.




Philippe (or anyone else having 85ZE/ZF),from many place I have read about the focus shift and even Zeiss admits it. It should be almost non-existent at infinity but I have not found any documentation, which would say how it exactly behaves. Only reference I have found said that when focused to 10m with f/1.4 then at f/2.8 the focal plane is at 8m. Can anybody confirm this or give more accurate description how the focus shift behaves.

If it's very bad then I think I go for Contax 1.4/85 instead since it has aperture ring; focusing and pressing DOF button at same time will be very difficult, but focusing the C/Y with f/2.8 instead of f/1.4 s very easy to do. I don't mind bad performance close-up, but please don't propose 2.8 Sonnar, I already had it and it obviously don't have same magic as 1.4 Planar at long distance (like these shots by Philippe).




Burningheart also has a point, since I sold 85LmkII and Sonnar 2.8/85 got stolen, I have not had any 85mm Zeiss, just Leica 90/2.8 and 80-200. And I have felt that not having anything between 50 and 100 is problematic.

However "in paper" the hole doesn't seem that bad, but still exists. Below are my planned "2010 travel and hiking lenses" now consists of 2.8/21ZE, 2.8/25C/Y, 2/35ZE, 1.4/50ZE, 2/100ZE, 3.5/200C/Y, real focal lengths from Zeiss PDFs used:


Here are Philippe's current lenses, some similarity at wide end D: - based on this you might want to replace 135mm with Makro-Planar:


Of course many of us in Alternative forum select lenses based on their characteristic, not just because focal lengths. Last week I won from eBay Helios 44M-4 58mm f/2, Zeiss Jena Tessar 2.8/50, Pentax Super Takumar 50mm f/1.4 lenses, and I already have 6 different 50mm lenses

The photos really show off the 85 Philber. The last one of the doors is an especially nice photo.

ZE 1.4/50:

One of mine - Yosemite - El Capitan - 5D MII with Zeiss 50 1.4 ZE

Just lovely Mike.