Yet another hidden gem?
/forum/topic/837484/0

1
2 3 end

cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

FD 24/2 (not quite converted) wide open on 5D. Keep in mind these are hand-held (in more ways than one) at ISO 1600 at 1/15th and 1/30th...



This image is copyrighted by the owner






This image is copyrighted by the owner




100% (there is minimal sharpening on the RAW (150 of 400 in Bibble):


This image is copyrighted by the owner




100% from the next shot in the series. Talk about detail :


This image is copyrighted by the owner




I think I'm going to like this one.


helimat
Registered: Apr 06, 2008
Total Posts: 3213
Country: Canada

Nice find... Once again Paul.

Did ya buy a batch of ten?



Anden
Registered: Jun 22, 2004
Total Posts: 6453
Country: Sweden

Nice!




thrice
Registered: Jul 10, 2008
Total Posts: 2934
Country: Australia

QUICK! everyone buy and convert them and sit on them til the price skyrockets



sirimiri
Registered: Dec 10, 2007
Total Posts: 2430
Country: United States

Hmmm...how does it look "in living color"?



Mr.Burns
Registered: May 19, 2005
Total Posts: 673
Country: United States

The first one kinda reminds me of a LensBaby shot.

I like the look.

-Mickey



philber
Registered: May 21, 2008
Total Posts: 5470
Country: France

Nah! a man of your ability could produce a shot like that from a pinhole in a matchbox, Paul! I am surprised that, to make matters just a bit more challenging, you didn't chosoe to do it while she blinked



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

sirimiri wrote:
Hmmm...how does it look "in living color"?


I have no idea, as these were taken under crappy indoor lighting. I haven't even mounted the lens on my camera yet, to be honest. Once I finish the conversion (which I've figured out quite easily) I will put it through more thorough testing and post some stuff.



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

Mr.Burns wrote:
The first one kinda reminds me of a LensBaby shot.

I like the look.

-Mickey


That makes sense, since I was holding the camera to my face with my right hand and holding the lens near the camera with the other hand. To focus, the mountless lens had to be held about 3-4mm away from the camera mount flange, so some tilt and shift was inevitable (I'm not that good). Sort of like Anden's Franken-tilt, but without the lens pouch "bellows".



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

philber wrote:
Nah! a man of your ability could produce a shot like that from a pinhole in a matchbox, Paul! I am surprised that, to make matters just a bit more challenging, you didn't chosoe to do it while she blinked


. Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I think I really would have needed AF if she had blinked



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

simiri, I've corrected the white balance quickly on a couple and dumped them out in colour. Probably not the best shots to judge colour with though, at 1600 under incandescent.



This image is copyrighted by the owner






This image is copyrighted by the owner





pengland
Registered: Aug 21, 2008
Total Posts: 539
Country: Canada

A couple from my nFD 24 f2 taken this morning wide open.....5D....no PP.



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

Nice samples, Nick!

I'm excited to finish mine and get outside for some testing. I've read very good things about this lens. Some people call it the best lens in the FD line-up. Looking forward to seeing how it performs stopped down, as well.

This is a pretty easy conversion, eh? I'm not done yet, but it is so obvious what needs to be done.



burningheart
Registered: Mar 21, 2005
Total Posts: 1698
Country: Canada

Hi Paul

Congrats on the 24 there are a few gems hidden in the FD line besides the 50L and 85L. To point out a few others for you of high regard 35 F2, 35-105 F3.5, 85 1.8, 80-200 L, 200 F4 macro and 400 F4.5.



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

burningheart wrote:
Hi Paul

Congrats on the 24 there are a few gems hidden in the FD line besides the 50L and 85L. To point out a few others for you of high regard 35 F2, 35-105 F3.5, 85 1.8, 80-200 L, 200 F4 macro and 400 F4.5.


Yes, I've already converted the 35/2 SSC (concave), and I love it.

I agree about the 35-105/3.5 as it was one of my favourites back in my AE-1P days. I converted a copy of that one too and it turned out to be a crap sample. I might do another some day.

I'm pretty content at 85mm these days (Rokinon) and for tele I have the FD 300/4 L converted (which is stunning!) and an AF 70-210/2.8 Zoom that is sufficient.



Sam N
Registered: Dec 16, 2006
Total Posts: 1262
Country: United States

I asked about converting this lens a while back and got no response. I've seen tests of it that say it's extremely sharp, but I'm not sure if it'll clear a 5D/5DII mirror. If it will, I'm all for converting it.



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

As far as I can tell, it'll clear an unshaved mirror at infinity, but I cannot be sure just yet. I'll know more after the weekend. Maybe Nick can comment on this.



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

BTW, I know some of you must be wondering why the hell I've bought this lens since my main agenda has been selling stuff these days. Let's just say I couldn't pass up a deal this good



Ed Sawyer
Registered: May 08, 2007
Total Posts: 1977
Country: United States

The bokeh on the nFD one seems a bit busier than Paul's samples...

-Ed



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

Ed Sawyer wrote:
The bokeh on the nFD one seems a bit busier than Paul's samples...

-Ed


I noticed this too, but oddly enough the lenses are identical. Canon only ever made the nFD version. I forgot to prepend the "n" in my original post.

Maybe it is because my "hand-holding" resulted in a closer-than-normal minimum focus distance (tube effect), resulting in narrower DOF and more blur. Also, the lighting is much more bright/contrasty in Nick's samples.



pengland
Registered: Aug 21, 2008
Total Posts: 539
Country: Canada

cogitech wrote:
Nice samples, Nick!

I'm excited to finish mine and get outside for some testing. I've read very good things about this lens. Some people call it the best lens in the FD line-up. Looking forward to seeing how it performs stopped down, as well.

This is a pretty easy conversion, eh? I'm not done yet, but it is so obvious what needs to be done.



Thanks Paul,

The nFD conversions are a breeze now that I have developed a ``kit`` to do it. The mounting screw locations and spacer requirements are identical in all the nFD lenses. I always have several M42/EOS adapters drilled with countersunk holes ready to go as well as dozens of spacers with holes and aperture ring "undercuts". When I get an nFD lens now I only have to drill out and re-tap the screw holes and fabricate the aperture control mechanism (which I have also stream-lined to some degree).

Although I have now shaved the mirror on my 5D I can confirm that the nFD 24/2 did clear before shaving.

A word of caution on the the 24mm nFDs. I converted an f 2.8 version first and I can report that the design was identical. In both lenses there was a set of bushings that I have never encountered in any other lens. The bushings are tiny....maybe 4mm in dia. In both lenses these bushings were worn out or had broken down from old lubricant. The lenses were both functional as they were but there was some "lost motion" in the focus rings as well as a tendency for the focus to creep under certain conditions when gravity could take hold. I ended up machining new bushings from teflon that work great.



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

I wish I had your time and access to tools!

My plan is to modify an existing part (the spacer/ring that is secured to the barrel with the three larger screws, and holds the aperture ring down) and use it as a spacer for the new mount. I'll likely spend hours filing/sanding it down to the right thickness.

Stage two will be the new aperture mechanism, which looks dead simple on this one. I've got some semi-soft aluminum that'll do the trick.

Stage three will be to rough-up the bottom surface of the M42-EOS adapter and then just JB-Weld the bugger on there

I'm sure yours will be much prettier



pengland
Registered: Aug 21, 2008
Total Posts: 539
Country: Canada

Paul,

I owe you a lot for getting me started in the alt and conversion arena. If you give me your mailing address I will send you one of my spacers....no charge. It doubles as a screw hole template as well to guarantee accurate centering and radial (relative to the camera...aperture scale on top) positioning of your M42 adapter.....and thereby your lens.

Nick



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 10909
Country: Canada

NIck, you have PM Thanks!



TWoK
Registered: Sep 17, 2008
Total Posts: 3526
Country: Japan

Looks pretty similar to the Nikkor 24/2. I'm surprised you're not going to try a MF 24L



1
2 3 end