Hi All

I just splashed out on a Gitzo GM2561T monopod. It really is a beauty... Only trouble is the "Safelock" Top Plate/Ring. No matter how "tight" I screw my Heads (manfrottto 484/486/234) onto it, they come undone with the slightest force! Hardly what I'd call "safe"!!

Note, this model doesn't sport a grubscrew, like the larger monopods.

I have got round the problem by removing the Safelock Ring... using a makeshift washer (out of an old credit card) & screwing the Head directly onto the top of the monopod. With the slight compression in the hard plastic the Head(s) now stay on tight.

At this sort of cost, I shouldn't have to mess about making my own washers etc.

Has anyone else experienced any problems with their Safelocks on other Gitzos

all that and all you needed to do is threadlock it with blue loctite. still removable but requires a bit more effort

sjms wrote:
all that and all you needed to do is threadlock it with blue loctite. still removable but requires a bit more effort

Yeah .. I guess I could've loctited it, but that's not the point .... Such a top-quality product shouldn't really need a third-party application.

Yeah .. I guess I could've loctited it, but that's not the point .... Such a top-quality product shouldn't really need a third-party application.

I agree wholeheartedly !! If thats the case, Gitzo should supply Loctite and instructions

No problems with mine, without loctite.

It works very good on my monopod and also on my 3 tripods that have it

No problems with my monopod or tripods with safelock. You might consider a strap wrench to tighten the ballhead base onto the Gitzo platform.

Roland Jenkins wrote:
sjms wrote:
all that and all you needed to do is threadlock it with blue loctite. still removable but requires a bit more effort

Yeah .. I guess I could've loctited it, but that's not the point .... Such a top-quality product shouldn't really need a third-party application.

This gentleman is 100% correct! If you have to do a 2nd/3rd party fix to make it work as "advertised". That is false advertising IMHO!!!
DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME GITZO!!!! It is NOT rocket science!!
And if everything bought was done right the first time, as noted by other posters,then this gentleman could have saved us all some server space and him his frustrations!!!!!! But then the economy would continue to crumble because more companies establsihed to "fix" the problem, would be w/out work!
Angelo

Smiert Spionam wrote:
No problems with mine, without loctite.

me, too.

bf5hpjg wrote:
Roland Jenkins wrote:
sjms wrote:
all that and all you needed to do is threadlock it with blue loctite. still removable but requires a bit more effort

Yeah .. I guess I could've loctited it, but that's not the point .... Such a top-quality product shouldn't really need a third-party application.

This gentleman is 100% correct! If you have to do a 2nd/3rd party fix to make it work as "advertised". That is false advertising IMHO!!!
DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME GITZO!!!! It is NOT rocket science!!
And if everything bought was done right the first time, as noted by other posters,then this gentleman could have saved us all some server space!!! But then the economy would continue to crumble because more companies establihed to "fix" the problem, would be w/out work!
Angelo

But all the other people in this thread don't have to use loctite And their safelocks works good. I have 4 tripods and monopods that works good without loctite myself

i have to say that i suggested the blue loctite because i have already had to use it on my GT2540ex. using the tripod ctr post in any extreme angle off of the standard vertical and locking the heads panning base can cause it to loosen with a 150 macro or larger.

jhom wrote:
No problems with my monopod or tripods with safelock. You might consider a strap wrench to tighten the ballhead base onto the Gitzo platform.

I could strap-wrench ... but as it's a monopod I would also need a strap (or some sort of vice grip), on the 'Pod to counteract the turning force. Certainly torque applied by hand alone doesn't seem to hold it.

If the SL Ring does require extraordinary force to lock it, then there should be a hexagon or a couple of spanner-flats around the top of the 'Pod.

I must say the lack of any instructions/advice, included in the box is also uncharacteristic of such a top quality product.
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Strange that it seems I'm the only user experiencing similar problems. I find that quite amazing. Are you guys using the exact same model? As I say, some of the larger Monopods do have a mini grub-screw... unlike the GM2561T
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong? ....

.... Or maybe I'm just too weak! I should eat more spinach perhaps

Make shift washer, locktite, etc. etc. If it's new, why didn't you just return it and get a new one?

I have a GM5540. It doesn't have a set screw. I use an RRS screw clamp attached to the Gitzo platform. I usually have a heavy 400 f2.8L IS sitting in the clamp. I frequently move up and down the sidelines with the 400 and 1D slung over my shoulder. I have yet to have any movement of my gear. The SureLock works well for my setup. If I remember correctly, the Manfrotto heads that you are using are small and may not provide a wide enough base to platform contact for the SureLock to work well -- a thought.

Jim

Something does not sound right. You should just play with the original setup some more, check the manual (usually just a folded piece of paper). I have a number of Gitzo products and none ever needed any fiddling like you have. Or maybe it is just broken...but they don't come with jerry-rigging required.

n0b0 wrote:
Make shift washer, locktite, etc. etc. If it's new, why didn't you just return it and get a new one?

Nobo... Because it's a damn good monopod! The SL is not that bad a problem in the whole scheme of things... The fact that the Gitzo product IS so fantastically well made is what makes this problem stand out. As I say ... I've got round the problem with a perfectly practical plastic washer. No ... at the end of the day... the G-Locks ... the portability .... even the 3/8" thread ... are good enough reasons to want to stick with this brand.


MSC wrote:
Something does not sound right. You should just play with the original setup some more, check the manual (usually just a folded piece of paper). I have a number of Gitzo products and none ever needed any fiddling like you have....

MSC ... I think you may be right .... I need to have another look I think. The overwhelming response seems to put me in a definite minotity

Lars Johnsson wrote:
bf5hpjg wrote:
Roland Jenkins wrote:
sjms wrote:
all that and all you needed to do is threadlock it with blue loctite. still removable but requires a bit more effort

Yeah .. I guess I could've loctited it, but that's not the point .... Such a top-quality product shouldn't really need a third-party application.

This gentleman is 100% correct! If you have to do a 2nd/3rd party fix to make it work as "advertised". That is false advertising IMHO!!!
DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME GITZO!!!! It is NOT rocket science!!And if everything bought was done right the first time, as noted by other posters,then this gentleman could have saved us all some server space!!! But then the economy would continue to crumble because more companies establihed to "fix" the problem, would be w/out work!
Angelo

But all the other people in this thread don't have to use loctite And their safelocks works good. I have 4 tripods and monopods that works good without loctite myself

That is his (bf5hpjg) point!

PatrickDixon10 wrote:
Lars Johnsson wrote:
bf5hpjg wrote:
Roland Jenkins wrote:
sjms wrote:
all that and all you needed to do is threadlock it with blue loctite. still removable but requires a bit more effort

Yeah .. I guess I could've loctited it, but that's not the point .... Such a top-quality product shouldn't really need a third-party application.

This gentleman is 100% correct! If you have to do a 2nd/3rd party fix to make it work as "advertised". That is false advertising IMHO!!!
DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME GITZO!!!! It is NOT rocket science!!And if everything bought was done right the first time, as noted by other posters,then this gentleman could have saved us all some server space!!! But then the economy would continue to crumble because more companies establihed to "fix" the problem, would be w/out work!
Angelo

But all the other people in this thread don't have to use loctite And their safelocks works good. I have 4 tripods and monopods that works good without loctite myself

That is his (bf5hpjg) point!


bf5 is hysterical over a fabricated non-issue...this is not normal for Gitzo products...you are not getting my and nearly everyone else's point. Gitzo does not make them this way and something is wrong with the OPs, certainly not all Gitzos. Let's not freak out here...and the OP agrees with this. If it still does not work, I assume he will send it back because it is broken...I would.

Roland Jenkins wrote:
n0b0 wrote:
Make shift washer, locktite, etc. etc. If it's new, why didn't you just return it and get a new one?

Nobo... Because it's a damn good monopod! The SL is not that bad a problem in the whole scheme of things... The fact that the Gitzo product IS so fantastically well made is what makes this problem stand out. As I say ... I've got round the problem with a perfectly practical plastic washer. No ... at the end of the day... the G-Locks ... the portability .... even the 3/8" thread ... are good enough reasons to want to stick with this brand.


I meant return your copy of the Gitzo and exchange it with another copy of the same Gitzo monopod.

PatrickDixon10 wrote:
Lars Johnsson wrote:
bf5hpjg wrote:
Roland Jenkins wrote:
sjms wrote:
all that and all you needed to do is threadlock it with blue loctite. still removable but requires a bit more effort

Yeah .. I guess I could've loctited it, but that's not the point .... Such a top-quality product shouldn't really need a third-party application.

This gentleman is 100% correct! If you have to do a 2nd/3rd party fix to make it work as "advertised". That is false advertising IMHO!!!
DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME GITZO!!!! It is NOT rocket science!!And if everything bought was done right the first time, as noted by other posters,then this gentleman could have saved us all some server space!!! But then the economy would continue to crumble because more companies establihed to "fix" the problem, would be w/out work!
Angelo

But all the other people in this thread don't have to use loctite And their safelocks works good. I have 4 tripods and monopods that works good without loctite myself

That is his (bf5hpjg) point!


No it's not.
You don't have to loctite a Gitzo safelock. It works good from the start without doing that. (if you know how to use it of course)