molson wrote:
sjms wrote:
JHerr wrote:
I just wish they would lower the strength of their AA filter though. Lower noise is nice, but I wouldn't mind a sharpness increase on par with what Canon has.

after owning and using a 1Ds 1D2 1Ds2 1D3 40D i need to comment on your statement
with all in camera sharpening settings off between both brands (models i use now are the D3 and D700) i have found and it has been proven that out of camera raw images are considerable sharper from the nikon product then the canon product.



My experience, after owning and using the 1Ds II, 50D, 7D, 5D, 5D II, D300 and D700 (I didn't bother with the D3 since everyone has said the IQ of the D3 is exactly the same as the D700), is exactly the opposite of yours... Nikon's full-frame high ISO performance comes at the cost of an overly aggressive low-pass filter, and when the files are interpolated up to 48mb (as is required for stock submission), the Canon images are much sharper - no matter how you process the Nikon images. The only 12mp Nikon that competes with the Canons in sharpness is the D2X, as has been proven by many respected Nikon reviewers.




Really? Any references to these "respected" Nikon reviewers? Nikon tells it a little differently themselves...

http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/technology/d-technology/imagingsensor/resolution/index.htm

It's okay, Cliff is just trolling in these here parts these days...

Interesting, the same guy was in this thread (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/829666) were the OP seemed to get slammed for using such a high shutter speeds, Maybe the OP in that thread is Rob G in disguise.

molson wrote:
sjms wrote:
JHerr wrote:
I just wish they would lower the strength of their AA filter though. Lower noise is nice, but I wouldn't mind a sharpness increase on par with what Canon has.

after owning and using a 1Ds 1D2 1Ds2 1D3 40D i need to comment on your statement
with all in camera sharpening settings off between both brands (models i use now are the D3 and D700) i have found and it has been proven that out of camera raw images are considerable sharper from the nikon product then the canon product.



My experience, after owning and using the 1Ds II, 50D, 7D, 5D, 5D II, D300 and D700 (I didn't bother with the D3 since everyone has said the IQ of the D3 is exactly the same as the D700), is exactly the opposite of yours... Nikon's full-frame high ISO performance comes at the cost of an overly aggressive low-pass filter, and when the files are interpolated up to 48mb (as is required for stock submission), the Canon images are much sharper - no matter how you process the Nikon images. The only 12mp Nikon that competes with the Canons in sharpness is the D2X, as has been proven by many respected Nikon reviewers.

See here for measured resolution of Nikon D700 versus Canon 5D:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD700/page31.asp

This does not support the suggestion of excessive softening by the Nikon OLP filter.

Bello Nock is very populair these days...

Go4Long wrote:
I told my salesman that when I come in to pick it up we'll pull it out of the box and take a couple shots at ISO 12'000 plus just because we can :P

You guys may have to find a dark closet somewhere to shoot in the store There may be too much light at ISO 12,000+ and all your images will be over exposed.

Michael