Steppin' Out... PNW- BW- revised
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Al B
Registered: Jan 17, 2004
Total Posts: 11061
Country: Canada

Some of you may remember the colour version of this capture I took this last
summer at the PNW. Now that I have completed this gallery I went back to this image
which I always felt may have some possibilities in the B &W format.

I'd be curious to hear your comments.

Thanks
Al B



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Link to the coloured version:
http://www.pbase.com/al_b/image/117393926/original


Adrian Cray
Registered: Mar 14, 2002
Total Posts: 9005
Country: United Kingdom

Hi Al ,

This version seems to work very well , with a good range of tones throughout the picture . I must have missed the colour version . Perhaps you may wish to post a link thereto ?

Afternote : Thanks for the link , Al . The colour version has the more summery look to it , but the B&W allows you to concentrate more on the detail and different mood conveyed . I think I'll take one of each !



Al B
Registered: Jan 17, 2004
Total Posts: 11061
Country: Canada

Adrian Cray wrote:
Hi Al ,

This version seems to work very well , with a good range of tones throughout the picture . I must have missed the colour version . Perhaps you may wish to post a link thereto ?



Hello colonel, great to hear from you! Sorry for being remiss in not posting the earlier colour version link. I have now included a link back to this version. Wonderful to hear from you again. I have been thoroughly enjoying your recent offerings.

Best Al B



Tim ONeill
Registered: Feb 06, 2003
Total Posts: 16103
Country: United States

Al
The conversion works well for me. The bump in contrast in this shot makes for a sharper sea stack. It is always a trade-off when converting to BW. What you get in drama, you must give away some of the color variations that help identify with the scene. I like it.



Ray Still
Registered: Oct 10, 2008
Total Posts: 7874
Country: United States

Al

Very nice comp and great conversion here this really works very nicely in B&W

Ray Still



alichty
Registered: Jan 19, 2009
Total Posts: 8628
Country: United States

Works quite nicely Al - and I can't even see the teeming hordes of unwashed masses we encountered that afternoon

Good call on the BW conversion.

Alan



JimFox
Registered: Jan 11, 2005
Total Posts: 27215
Country: United States

Hey Al,

I definately like this better in B&W. 2 suggestions. Layer mask just the water, and bring down the blacks or perhaps midtones a bit more. And then for both the color and the B&W, can you recover more of that water detail that is lost in the wave breaks? I think in such a nice shot, having the water lacking detail there ends up sticking out then...

Jim



ScaryFox
Registered: Dec 30, 2004
Total Posts: 24248
Country: United Kingdom

This is quite harsh and contrasty but it suits the scene.
Good vision, Al.
Ute



Al B
Registered: Jan 17, 2004
Total Posts: 11061
Country: Canada

Tim, Ray, Alan, Jim and Ute. Thanks everyone. After I complete my gallery from our trips I usually scout out images for B & W and this one seemed to fit the bill.

Jim - two good suggestions. I was going for a high contrasty image but I do agree there should be a bit more detail that could be recovered in the waves.

Ute - I agree that is why I felt it would be good candidate for the conversion.

Appreciate ALL comments and than you for your continued support of my work.


Al B



bshamilton
Registered: Aug 28, 2005
Total Posts: 33843
Country: United States

Excellent conversion, Al, works very nicely.
By a small margin though, I prefer the color one. The color contrasts let the rocks stand out from the sea a bit easier, imho. And I love the shades of blues/greens you caught in the surf. Call me contrarian I guess.

Barry



Al B
Registered: Jan 17, 2004
Total Posts: 11061
Country: Canada

JimFox wrote:
Hey Al,

I definately like this better in B&W. 2 suggestions. Layer mask just the water, and bring down the blacks or perhaps midtones a bit more. And then for both the color and the B&W, can you recover more of that water detail that is lost in the wave breaks? I think in such a nice shot, having the water lacking detail there ends up sticking out then...

Jim


Hi Jim,
I like your suggestions. I tried to still maintain the high contrasty image effect. I pulled a bit of the blacks out of the water and reduced the highlights on the white caps as you suggested. Hope you like the difference.



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Al B


Al B
Registered: Jan 17, 2004
Total Posts: 11061
Country: Canada

bshamilton wrote:
Excellent conversion, Al, works very nicely.
By a small margin though, I prefer the color one. The color contrasts let the rocks stand out from the sea a bit easier, imho. And I love the shades of blues/greens you caught in the surf. Call me contrarian I guess.

Barry


Thanks Barry, I do to. This was not meant to be a comparison but merely another
expression of this scene. I am huge fan of B & W comps so I always like to keep this part of the processing technique current.

Al B



kschweichhart
Registered: Jan 07, 2006
Total Posts: 4609
Country: Austria

Very good job on this, Al, but I can't help I like the color version better.
Karl



Al B
Registered: Jan 17, 2004
Total Posts: 11061
Country: Canada

kschweichhart wrote:
Very good job on this, Al, but I can't help I like the color version better.
Karl



Thanks Karl I like the colour version as well for its strong colour presence. Still the B & W changes the mood of course and offer a more engaging detailed look.

Al B



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