Dove release? Examples please!
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jeepman83706
Registered: Jan 13, 2008
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so I have clients who want to have a dove release during their engagement session. Never done that one before. Has anyone photographed a dove release for an e-session, or a wedding? I would love to see some shots of this. Any tips? I'd imagine having a fast shutter speed and having my camera on rapid fire mode!!



pattyw
Registered: May 19, 2006
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jeepman83706 wrote:
having a fast shutter speed and having my camera on rapid fire mode!!


... manual, pre-focus, wide angle, frame the B&G first, shoot low looking up.



Marcus Watts
Registered: Oct 05, 2007
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If you have a second shooter make sure one captures the doves in the context of the surroundings while the other shooter can get some tighter shots.

I've see moments like this where the photographer gets great close up shots of the birds but they are not really telling the story. The shot could have been taken of the birds any time and any where. If you can have both for the spread then great.



letenele
Registered: Jul 26, 2005
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In Spain, right after the ceremony:


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Andy Wood
Registered: Oct 08, 2003
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Use the fastest camera you have. Be ready to shoot and just hold the trigger down, it happens in a split second. This shot was one of 9 or so. Birds just lined up the best in the frame. Many of the shots had only one bird or they were over the bride and grooms face.



belldandy13
Registered: Feb 05, 2009
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^^^ that is an INSANE shot. Wow. so beautiful.



tonebag
Registered: Jan 30, 2009
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Some great advice already given above...Andy, beautiful shot!!

My humble advice (as a second shooter) is to just make absolutely sure the bride is comfortable with the release. She might have a reaction different than the one expected.



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An example from a different wedding:


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Same wedding with parents releasing doves.


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cre55107
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSQ1Nx5pTaY

skip to 6:45



Sergio Mottola
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hendrikm
Registered: Jun 11, 2009
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20 seconds of dove release that will change your mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsrbZHVOAt0



evertdoorn
Registered: Feb 29, 2008
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hahaha, ROFL

*nearly coughing coffee on keyboard*



lisy78
Registered: Apr 09, 2009
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You've got some great advice already.

I'll just add two things one a personal opinion, the other a suggestion

1. IMHO the more successful shots of wedding bird releases are the ones like the first one posted by tonebag (well sans the bride's expression I guess... though that was hilarious). Ideally you'd want to get minimal motion blur on the bird's body but some motion blur on the wings. The shots where the birds are totally frozen in midair, wings and all just don't do it for me

2. Go to a park with birds and practice. Scare them and try to photograph them as they take off

edit: Hum... maybe something smack in between tonebag and Sergio's second image would be best actually. I'd ask those dudes if they wouldn't mind sharing the shutter speed they shot those images at and then try soemthing in between



Stephaniespix
Registered: Jul 17, 2006
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Lovely image Andy!

Tonebag, that first one is so funny, the parent release is beautiful.

Yikes, just saw the video



Saad Syed
Registered: Jan 24, 2007
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Andy... masterful composition man.



Arigo
Registered: Feb 12, 2009
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Here's one you don't want to experience...

edit --oops, must type faster---



jeepman83706
Registered: Jan 13, 2008
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Ha! Thanks everyone for the inspiration

Sergio - did they do more than 1 release? Did you have a second photographer? Seems like a lot of different angles and things captured considering I am thinking this is gonna go quick! Thanks!



ksmahgrts
Registered: Nov 23, 2005
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can i just mention that i hate birds? and have no idea why anyone would want to do this, regardless of the symbolism.

/hijack



jeepman83706
Registered: Jan 13, 2008
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ksmahgrts wrote:
can i just mention that i hate birds? and have no idea why anyone would want to do this, regardless of the symbolism.

/hijack



lol. I don't think I can say I hate birds, but this client is obsessed with birds apparently because not only does she want doves for her engagement, for their wedding they are having a peacock theme! Not exactly sure what that means yet...



ksmahgrts
Registered: Nov 23, 2005
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jeepman83706 wrote:
ksmahgrts wrote:
can i just mention that i hate birds? and have no idea why anyone would want to do this, regardless of the symbolism.

/hijack



lol. I don't think I can say I hate birds, but this client is obsessed with birds apparently because not only does she want doves for her engagement, for their wedding they are having a peacock theme! Not exactly sure what that means yet...



birds are evil. all they want to do is peck your eyes out and poop on the things you hold most dear.

i bet live peacocks will knock you down at this wedding!



photoman333
Registered: Nov 27, 2005
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I wonder if the bride has ever seen Hitchcock's "The Birds"?



DonW
Registered: Mar 08, 2004
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One or 2 at at time is not a problem. A crate of birds is as they don't fly away at the same time. You only get a few in the shop at any given moment.



tonebag
Registered: Jan 30, 2009
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lisy78 wrote:

1. IMHO the more successful shots of wedding bird releases are the ones like the first one posted by tonebag (well sans the bride's expression I guess... though that was hilarious).

edit: Hum... maybe something smack in between tonebag and Sergio's second image would be best actually. I'd ask those dudes if they wouldn't mind sharing the shutter speed they shot those images at and then try soemthing in between




Hey Not Lisy, I thought it was hilarious too. The bride hasn't seen these nor do I think she will want to. The primary shooter I was with actually showed her the expression from a different angle on the lcd shortly afterwards. She didn't look happy.

As for shutter speed, I used 1/125. Sergio's shots are amazing. Andy's shot is just spectacular, something I aspire to.



tonebag
Registered: Jan 30, 2009
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Stephaniespix wrote:
Lovely image Andy!

Tonebag, that first one is so funny, the parent release is beautiful.

Yikes, just saw the video


Thanks for the kind words Steph. The parents liked it as well

I wasn't trying to make fun of the bride, just illustrate some of the potential pitfalls of a dove release. But her expression was priceless.

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lisy78
Registered: Apr 09, 2009
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tonebag wrote:
lisy78 wrote:

1. IMHO the more successful shots of wedding bird releases are the ones like the first one posted by tonebag (well sans the bride's expression I guess... though that was hilarious).

edit: Hum... maybe something smack in between tonebag and Sergio's second image would be best actually. I'd ask those dudes if they wouldn't mind sharing the shutter speed they shot those images at and then try soemthing in between




Hey Not Lisy, I thought it was hilarious too. The bride hasn't seen these nor do I think she will want to. The primary shooter I was with actually showed her the expression from a different angle on the lcd shortly afterwards. She didn't look happy.

As for shutter speed, I used 1/125. Sergio's shots are amazing. Andy's shot is just spectacular, something I aspire to.


Here's a promise:

Take those images and save them for 20 years.

Then print the photo for the bride and mail it to her

She will LOVE IT then, for sure.




Andy Wood
Registered: Oct 08, 2003
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One thing I forgot to mention as well is if they are throwing the birds make sure you click right after release. Our couple through the birds in the air. Almost out of the frame Might not hurt to ask the couple how far they are throwing the birds or if they are just releasing them.



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