Advice on BIF - Beetles in Flight
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crteach
Registered: Dec 22, 2005
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Country: United States

I was out shooting some Asian Lady Bugs the other day and almost got one on take-off. As you can see, I got the pre-flight check shot ok, but the take-off was OOF. f 8.0 and 1/800 with 1600 ISO. I was handheld, so I'm sure I had some issues b/c of that. Do you think 1/800 might be a little slow? I'm sure those factors plus a short DOF didn't help! Searched a little on FM Macro threads and couldn't find anything about trying to catch a beetle taking off. Does anyone have experience and/or advice they could please share?



Dalantech
Registered: Jan 31, 2005
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I think to get that kind of scene sharp you're either going to have to be in front of the critter (so it's coming right at you and it will be easier to freeze the motion) or you'll have to use a flash.



LordV
Registered: Jan 02, 2006
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Think you are halfway there. Two problems are motion freezing and probably more importantly getting the focus correct. Flash or high shutter speeds would help with motion freezing - I don't know if predictive AI/AF would help with the focus or whether you can do it at all with macro - never tried it.
Brian V.



Dalantech
Registered: Jan 31, 2005
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One other thing: Seems to me that you're putting a lot of time and work into getting a sharp, centered photo. It would be much better if there was less dead space behind the subject, maybe with the beetle in the lower left hand corner looking into the right side of the frame (for example). IMHO there's just no point in putting a lot of time and effort into taking a poorly composed razor sharp image...



n0b0
Registered: Sep 22, 2008
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I never tried shooting beetle but I've tried birds and even 1/1250s wasn't enough to completely freeze the wing. I'd imagine that beetle is faster. You'll probably need a strobe or something.



Techuser
Registered: May 19, 2008
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A flash would do the trick wouldnt it?
even the shutter speed itself not being so high itself, the flash in second courtain should freeze a frame with motion blur behind I think



n0b0
Registered: Sep 22, 2008
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Actually, that might work even better to convey a sense of speed rather than freezing it totally.



crteach
Registered: Dec 22, 2005
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Country: United States

Dalantech wrote:
One other thing: Seems to me that you're putting a lot of time and work into getting a sharp, centered photo. It would be much better if there was less dead space behind the subject, maybe with the beetle in the lower left hand corner looking into the right side of the frame (for example). IMHO there's just no point in putting a lot of time and effort into taking a poorly composed razor sharp image...


Agreed...I was actually practicing my focus more than anything (trying to follow these guys around as they crawled) and wasn't putting enough thought into composition. The take-off surprised me and, afterwards, I realized I should have allowed for more open space in the frame. Thanks for your comments!



Dalantech
Registered: Jan 31, 2005
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Country: Italy

When I first got into macro I put all of my effort into nailing the focus and ended up with a lot of images that would have been good had I nailed the composition as well...



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