#368 My Magic Chair
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Strad
Registered: Aug 20, 2004
Total Posts: 7908
Country: United States

Thanks so much, Roy! I appreciate your kind comment.

all the best,

Endre

rbuiteman wrote:
Very nice photo and beautiful PS work!

Roy



Yakim Peled
Registered: Nov 18, 2004
Total Posts: 15672
Country: Israel

I really like the idea but much less the execution. What bugs me is not the PS per se but the fact that there are two distinct backgrounds that - at least IMHO - do not mix well together.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Benedictine
Registered: Sep 08, 2005
Total Posts: 541
Country: United Kingdom

Hi Yakim,

I have to disagree with you on this Yakim as, for me, the two backgrounds are a very crucial part of this image! I see the significance of this in that what we are seeing is the liminal moment between two worlds—the "real" our-world on the right and the "imaginary" world on the left. What Endre has managed to do is to combine these two worlds and in doing so has shown that moment in time when our consciousness is in two worlds at the same time, when we are still in the world of matter yet also in the world of the other existence which is, (in this case as per the title) that of the magical. It is all about liminality, or rather the dwelling in that incredible liminal state of being where we mere humans with all our human restrictions become something other than "mere humans" and are truly creatures of another, (some would say mystical) ethereal world.

Endre's genius here, (and it IS genus IMHO) is that he has found a way to illustrate this mystical experience and I salute him for it.

Regards,

Andrew-Bede



Yakim Peled
Registered: Nov 18, 2004
Total Posts: 15672
Country: Israel

I would agree if the chair was one which is commonly used in the garden. Then the right part would fit in nicely as a representative of the real world. However, this chair is so homely in its shape that I'd rather see a home interior as this representative. JMHO of course.

But I do agree about the end. Endre is indeed a true genius (I call him 'The maestro of light') and the numerous WA he won is a testimonial of that.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



ejos
Registered: Dec 09, 2004
Total Posts: 233
Country: United States

Even with the huge diversity of scene, the composite flows and really works for me.



jess8026
Registered: May 14, 2009
Total Posts: 68
Country: United States

Endre, I love the transition between realism and surrealism and the way
Eva's book has transported her just to "the other side".
I used to have issues with extensive PSing, but after studying Ansel Adams
and reading about his techniques, I reached the same conclusion you did, and now
can enjoy the creativity involved---a prime example being this lovely image.
Janice



AuntiPode
Registered: Aug 05, 2008
Total Posts: 4922
Country: New Zealand

Strad wrote:

... Not thinking much about it. I just grabbed the top one in the pile for this photo. In retrospect, I ought to have gotten out an old leather bound copy of Dickens.


Or perhaps a Nancy Drew mystery.



ramorak
Registered: Aug 16, 2002
Total Posts: 404
Country: United Kingdom

Love this.



Strad
Registered: Aug 20, 2004
Total Posts: 7908
Country: United States

Thanks for both your comment postings, Yakim, my friend! I think being called a "genius" by you and Andrew-Bede is a bit over the top, but certainly very sweet of you both.

As to the way I put this together, I would agree with your point about the chair and its locale if i were trying to convey that Eva is sitting somewhere real and then going off into a world of imagination. BUT, this work has three parts. The first is the tangible, real world, which is solely represented by Eva and the chair. The second is her imagination of a real world - represented by the water garden on the right. If I were trying to represent reality there, I certainly wouldn't have placed the feet of the chair in the middle of the lake. From that imaginary world, I then take her to the left side of the photo which is a far more idealized and fantastic representation of an imaginary world, with birds that fly into super-saturated sunsets while trailing stars in their wake. Just as in a story book, where the scene may shift from chapter to chapter, here I wanted to represent her imagination taking flight into realms that are not necessarily earthbound. Perhaps, I wasn't entirely successful but I'm glad you generally like the resulting shot.

Warm regards,

Endre


Yakim Peled wrote:
I would agree if the chair was one which is commonly used in the garden. Then the right part would fit in nicely as a representative of the real world. However, this chair is so homely in its shape that I'd rather see a home interior as this representative. JMHO of course.

But I do agree about the end. Endre is indeed a true genius (I call him 'The maestro of light') and the numerous WA he won is a testimonial of that.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.




Strad
Registered: Aug 20, 2004
Total Posts: 7908
Country: United States

Thanks, Andrew-Bede for this very interesting and insightful comment in defense of my photo. As I wrote to Yakim, I think it is quite over the top to use the word "genius" to describe my work but I certainly am pleased yet humbled to have you do that.

I won't reiterate my explanation of this that I posted a few moments ago to Yakim. My thinking in creating this was very similar to what you took from it with the possible exception that the water garden on the right - while representative of the "real" world - is also imaginary (or at least not tangible in the physical sense. We get into mysticism here - a topic better left to other discussion forums. ). Consequently, there are three "worlds" illustrated here.

L & P,

Endre


Benedictine wrote:
Hi Yakim,

I have to disagree with you on this Yakim as, for me, the two backgrounds are a very crucial part of this image! I see the significance of this in that what we are seeing is the liminal moment between two worlds—the "real" our-world on the right and the "imaginary" world on the left. What Endre has managed to do is to combine these two worlds and in doing so has shown that moment in time when our consciousness is in two worlds at the same time, when we are still in the world of matter yet also in the world of the other existence which is, (in this case as per the title) that of the magical. It is all about liminality, or rather the dwelling in that incredible liminal state of being where we mere humans with all our human restrictions become something other than "mere humans" and are truly creatures of another, (some would say mystical) ethereal world.

Endre's genius here, (and it IS genus IMHO) is that he has found a way to illustrate this mystical experience and I salute him for it.

Regards,

Andrew-Bede



Strad
Registered: Aug 20, 2004
Total Posts: 7908
Country: United States

Thanks so much! I'm glad you like it and that it works for you.

All the best,

Endre

ejos wrote:
Even with the huge diversity of scene, the composite flows and really works for me.



Strad
Registered: Aug 20, 2004
Total Posts: 7908
Country: United States

Thank you, Janice. I really appreciate your very kind words and that you like it so much!

Warm regards,

Endre


jess8026 wrote:
Endre, I love the transition between realism and surrealism and the way
Eva's book has transported her just to "the other side".
I used to have issues with extensive PSing, but after studying Ansel Adams
and reading about his techniques, I reached the same conclusion you did, and now
can enjoy the creativity involved---a prime example being this lovely image.
Janice



Strad
Registered: Aug 20, 2004
Total Posts: 7908
Country: United States

Ah yes! Nancy Drew! Why didn't I think of that??

All best wishes,

Endre



AuntiPode wrote:
Strad wrote:

... Not thinking much about it. I just grabbed the top one in the pile for this photo. In retrospect, I ought to have gotten out an old leather bound copy of Dickens.


Or perhaps a Nancy Drew mystery.



Strad
Registered: Aug 20, 2004
Total Posts: 7908
Country: United States

Thank you very much! I'm so glad you like it!

All the best,

Endre

ramorak wrote:
Love this.



Yakim Peled
Registered: Nov 18, 2004
Total Posts: 15672
Country: Israel

Got it now. I usually understand very quickly when things are explained in length.....

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Strad wrote:
Thanks for both your comment postings, Yakim, my friend! I think being called a "genius" by you and Andrew-Bede is a bit over the top, but certainly very sweet of you both.

As to the way I put this together, I would agree with your point about the chair and its locale if i were trying to convey that Eva is sitting somewhere real and then going off into a world of imagination. BUT, this work has three parts. The first is the tangible, real world, which is solely represented by Eva and the chair. The second is her imagination of a real world - represented by the water garden on the right. If I were trying to represent reality there, I certainly wouldn't have placed the feet of the chair in the middle of the lake. From that imaginary world, I then take her to the left side of the photo which is a far more idealized and fantastic representation of an imaginary world, with birds that fly into super-saturated sunsets while trailing stars in their wake. Just as in a story book, where the scene may shift from chapter to chapter, here I wanted to represent her imagination taking flight into realms that are not necessarily earthbound. Perhaps, I wasn't entirely successful but I'm glad you generally like the resulting shot.

Warm regards,

Endre


Yakim Peled wrote:
I would agree if the chair was one which is commonly used in the garden. Then the right part would fit in nicely as a representative of the real world. However, this chair is so homely in its shape that I'd rather see a home interior as this representative. JMHO of course.

But I do agree about the end. Endre is indeed a true genius (I call him 'The maestro of light') and the numerous WA he won is a testimonial of that.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.





Fishit
Registered: Aug 07, 2005
Total Posts: 2158
Country: United States

Strad wrote:
Reading books in her special chair will always transport Eva wherever her imagination can take her.

(I know, I know! some will complain that there is too much PS work. So be it. I couldn't figure another way to convey the point I was after. )


I like it, seems dream like, excellent composition sir.



Strad
Registered: Aug 20, 2004
Total Posts: 7908
Country: United States

Thanks, Fishit! It's always nice to hear from you and I'm so gald you like this.

All best wishes,

Endre


Fishit wrote:
Strad wrote:
Reading books in her special chair will always transport Eva wherever her imagination can take her.

(I know, I know! some will complain that there is too much PS work. So be it. I couldn't figure another way to convey the point I was after. )


I like it, seems dream like, excellent composition sir.



well69
Registered: May 19, 2009
Total Posts: 814
Country: Georgia

dittos - this is amazing. please keep up the submissions.



Strad
Registered: Aug 20, 2004
Total Posts: 7908
Country: United States

Thank you! I appreciate you taking time to comment!

All the best,

Endre

well69 wrote:
dittos - this is amazing. please keep up the submissions.



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