Epson 3880
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Lars Johnsson
Registered: Jun 29, 2003
Total Posts: 29010
Country: Thailand

I'm buying a new printer soon. And I have been thinking about the Epson 3880 printer. Anybody here that have been using it or have any comments about it? And how is the ink? I have always been using Canon printers before



Papathanassiou
Registered: Mar 02, 2006
Total Posts: 280
Country: United Kingdom

Hello Lars,
They reckon the 3880 is a lot more economical than the 2400. The ink on the 2400 is a real rip off. I never ever thought that I would do it, but I have installed (myself) the continuous ink flow system from Permajet, and I have to say it's brialliant.
I printed a photo with the Epsom genuine ink, then installed the Permajet system and the truth is that the Permajet system looked better. I have a friend that used to own a printing company that also has the system and he agrees that it is better.

http://www.permajet.com/product/591/Eco-Flo_Epson_Pro_3800.html



beauport
Registered: Sep 27, 2004
Total Posts: 2201
Country: United States

Lars, if the 3880 equals or exceeds the 3800, which it surely should, you'll find it to be terrific printer and very trouble free. I've used Epson inks and have very good results.
Eric Chan has written a very comprehensive set of notes on the 3800 which should also apply to the 3880. http://people.csail.mit.edu/ericchan/dp/Epson3800/index.html
After over two years with my 3800 I'd not hesitate to buy it again or obviously the 3880 which replaced the 3800.



timgangloff
Registered: Sep 17, 2004
Total Posts: 2392
Country: United States

No experience with the 3880, but previously used Canon dye ink printers (i9100 and i9900) and the 3800 blows them away for ease of use, maintenance and ink costs.



Lars Johnsson
Registered: Jun 29, 2003
Total Posts: 29010
Country: Thailand

Thanks for advice & comments everybody



jjlphoto
Registered: Jan 03, 2005
Total Posts: 7156
Country: United States

I've had the 3800 since it was released in late 2006. (Been ink jet printing since 2000, owned many printers). The 3800 is definitely the best printer I've ever owned. You will not be disappointed!



alexkiowa
Registered: Mar 28, 2005
Total Posts: 23
Country: United States

same here. Love my 3800 too! great printer!



XFBO
Registered: May 06, 2006
Total Posts: 790
Country: United States

I think Im beginning to get 3800 fever, I really need to stop poking into these threads.



alexkiowa
Registered: Mar 28, 2005
Total Posts: 23
Country: United States

Papathanassiou wrote:
Hello Lars,
They reckon the 3880 is a lot more economical than the 2400. The ink on the 2400 is a real rip off. I never ever thought that I would do it, but I have installed (myself) the continuous ink flow system from Permajet, and I have to say it's brialliant.
I printed a photo with the Epsom genuine ink, then installed the Permajet system and the truth is that the Permajet system looked better. I have a friend that used to own a printing company that also has the system and he agrees that it is better.

http://www.permajet.com/product/591/Eco-Flo_Epson_Pro_3800.html


I am with you totally. The 3800 is so much more economical than my old R2400 and it's a great printer. the only downside is it could not take roll papers. I am also considering the continuous ink flow system or refill system. I will be ordering a refill cart system from Ink Republic.
http://www.inkrepublic.com/3800-irefill.asp

joost horsten has reviewed their system.
http://www.inkrepublic.com/members/JoostHorsten/review.asp

the installation seems to be easy and clean cut. I hope it's a great fit to my 3800.
http://www.inkrepublic.com/knowledgebase/3800-iRefill-faq.asp



63supro
Registered: Sep 03, 2008
Total Posts: 30
Country: United States

My old 2400 was a great printer, but ink costs were ridicules. My 3800 is light years better and way more economical.



Lars Johnsson
Registered: Jun 29, 2003
Total Posts: 29010
Country: Thailand

Thanks everybody, another question. The 4880 has come down a lot in price and I see it with discount price also. How much better is that one ? And what about economy and ink for that one compared to the 3880?



SJMD
Registered: Nov 13, 2004
Total Posts: 15290
Country: United States

jjlphoto wrote:
I've had the 3800 since it was released in late 2006. (Been ink jet printing since 2000, owned many printers). The 3800 is definitely the best printer I've ever owned. You will not be disappointed!



so true

timgangloff wrote:
No experience with the 3880, but previously used Canon dye ink printers (i9100 and i9900) and the 3800 blows them away for ease of use, maintenance and ink costs.


I had a i9900 and this printer is better imho
I am sure it would do justice to the lovely photographs you post here on FM

steve



Zalllon
Registered: Jun 05, 2005
Total Posts: 353
Country: Canada

I have the R2880 and am waiting for my order to be filled for the 3880, but did consider the 4880. They all use the same ink set, they all have the ink repelling coated print head (which I assume has been why have had no real clogs), and they all have similar output ... but maybe the 3880 may have an edge since it is the latest technology.

In anycase, the 4880 should run even cheaper (from an ink perspective) since its tanks are larger, and it offers even larger tanks the ones it comes with. However, the 2 reasons I didn't consider it is because I wouldn't print enough to use the ink within the 6 month window (it's going to be a close call with the 3880 ... but maybe now I'll print more), and the size / weight of the 4880 also made me wait for the 3880's release.



Kaj E
Registered: Feb 08, 2005
Total Posts: 1158
Country: United States

I just got my 2880, haven't taken it out of the box yet and already start to have buyers remorse.

I am not printing larger than A3+ and do not print much, so I thought that with the same inks as the 3880 and 4880 it was a no-brainer for me. I have however since read up on Epson printing and found out that for the best results one should print with Colorburst technology and the 2880 does not support it.

Well, I guess I just have to see how the 2880 lives up to my expectations.

Zalllon wrote:
I have the R2880 and am waiting for my order to be filled for the 3880, but did consider the 4880. They all use the same ink set, they all have the ink repelling coated print head (which I assume has been why have had no real clogs), and they all have similar output ... but maybe the 3880 may have an edge since it is the latest technology.

In anycase, the 4880 should run even cheaper (from an ink perspective) since its tanks are larger, and it offers even larger tanks the ones it comes with. However, the 2 reasons I didn't consider it is because I wouldn't print enough to use the ink within the 6 month window (it's going to be a close call with the 3880 ... but maybe now I'll print more), and the size / weight of the 4880 also made me wait for the 3880's release.



howardm4
Registered: Feb 08, 2008
Total Posts: 2100
Country: N/A

if you havent taken it out, just send it back.



Cicopo
Registered: Apr 15, 2006
Total Posts: 1341
Country: Canada

I just received my R2880 on Wed and I've spent a lot of time reading up on it, and the 3800 because there was one for sale locally at a very good price, but unfortunately it's footprint was just too big to set it up without building a stand. (I'd have done that but I'm sort of laid up from leg surgery, and will be that way for a few months). I did however buy a huge assortment of Epson pro grade paper he was also selling which is going to be very handy in accessing the new printer. I read a lot about matching my monitor to the printer output (had my old set up matched but a new monitor & printer are in use now) and I found a very nice file sample to download for the purpose.
Using the sample, the ICC profiles from Epson for their papers, and the Color Management manual at their site has produced a very nice test print which to my eyes looks "right on" when printing from within CS 4.
If interested in the test print I used the one on the right side at the bottom of this page.

http://www.inkjetart.com/custom/



Kaj E
Registered: Feb 08, 2005
Total Posts: 1158
Country: United States

Thank you Larry, nice to know. The footprint of the 3880 is the main negative for it also for me (plus the $800 annual ink cost for a few prints). Otherwise I would probably have followed Howard's advice.

Nice to know that your test came out fine. I will check out some prints, they will probably be OK. The problem when you buy something is that you want the best possible quality, but then there are other factors entering the equation that make a decision harder.

Cicopo wrote:
I just received my R2880 on Wed and I've spent a lot of time reading up on it, and the 3800 because there was one for sale locally at a very good price, but unfortunately it's footprint was just too big to set it up without building a stand. (I'd have done that but I'm sort of laid up from leg surgery, and will be that way for a few months). I did however buy a huge assortment of Epson pro grade paper he was also selling which is going to be very handy in accessing the new printer. I read a lot about matching my monitor to the printer output (had my old set up matched but a new monitor & printer are in use now) and I found a very nice file sample to download for the purpose.
Using the sample, the ICC profiles from Epson for their papers, and the Color Management manual at their site has produced a very nice test print which to my eyes looks "right on" when printing from within CS 4.
If interested in the test print I used the one on the right side at the bottom of this page.

http://www.inkjetart.com/custom/



jjlphoto
Registered: Jan 03, 2005
Total Posts: 7156
Country: United States

Kaj E wrote:
....Thank you Larry, nice to know. The footprint of the 3880 is the main negative for it....


It is really not that big unless you are really cramped for space.


Kaj E wrote:
....have however since read up on Epson printing and found out that for the best results one should print with Colorburst technology....


Not necessarily so. IMO, it is pure marketing hype. I have never heard anyone complain about the 3800 Epson driver ever.


Lars Johnsson wrote:
.... The 4880 has come down a lot in price and I see it with discount price also. How much better is that one ? And what about economy and ink for that one compared to the 3880?....


I buy ink at Shades of Paper. In US$, the 3800 ink carts are approx $0.60/ml. 4880 ink carts are approx $.34/ml (220 ml size carts). Big difference, but you need to print a lot to achieve the savings. Plus, the 4880 is no longer a printer that you can put on your desktop. It really needs its own place.



EB-1
Registered: Jan 09, 2003
Total Posts: 18597
Country: United States

Is the 3880 in stock anywhere? I'm desperate to buy one.

EBH



dmkmd
Registered: Aug 17, 2003
Total Posts: 10
Country: United States

I have seen it on line at B & H. They always have a good supply of everything.



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