Zion Canyon Fall update
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MyLightScapes
Registered: Apr 29, 2008
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After a cloudless sunrise today (Towers of the Virgin behind the museum) I am charging the batteries in the campground's lobby and heading to the Narrows later. I got the permit for the Subway for tomorrow - anyone else going there tomorrow?

As to the fall colors update: most of the trees are still green with maybe 20-30% yellow or turning yellow. No brown leaves as I saw two weeks ago in the Eastern Sierras. And it is cold at night, especially if you are stupid enough to camp in a tent by the river



Jeffrey
Registered: Nov 12, 2002
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Typically, early November is the best time for colors there. It certainly ain't stupid to camp near a river. You probably did not have the proper sleeping bag.



Bart Carrig
Registered: Nov 12, 2004
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Thanks for the update, we'll be there on 10/31. Hope to do the camping in Coyote Buttes.

Bart



ajkessler
Registered: Dec 20, 2005
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Thanks for the report. I will be there in early November. Would love to see some shots when you get back.



Steve Sieren
Registered: Feb 18, 2007
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Have fun up there and stay warm next to that river. I'll be doing the same in few weeks otherwise I'd join you. I'm stupid too. In a few weeks it will be colder.

Boil some water, bottle it and throw it in you sleeping bag!



RMC cichlids
Registered: Aug 16, 2005
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Thanks for the update,
I'll be out there over Halloween wknd if any one wants to hike the subway with me?
I'll be camping at mosquito cove along the river
Kurt



jtangen
Registered: Aug 06, 2009
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Thanks for the report also.

I will be there Nov. 3,4 to do the Subway on the 4th. I'm hoping for clear skies (not the normal wish)

Oh, and I'll be in a motel in Hurricane snuggled under the covers at night



CarlG
Registered: Mar 12, 2002
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jtangen wrote:


Oh, and I'll be in a motel in Hurricane snuggled under the covers at night


wuss!!



Ben Horne
Registered: Jan 10, 2002
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I'm there Nov 1 through the 11th. I figure I'll have a good window of opportunity. Thanks for the update! I plan on doing Subway during my stay there at some point. If anyone who is there the 1st through the 11th sees a young dude in his late 20's shooting an 8x10, it's probably me.



MyLightScapes
Registered: Apr 29, 2008
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I did the Subway today - absolutely spectacular place for a photographer! I will post some pics when I come back home.



Fisher JD
Registered: May 02, 2005
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Arriving on the 6th, did a quick check on October 11, still green, hint of Yellow. Hoping to do both Subway and Narrows.



tibber59
Registered: Oct 05, 2005
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In reading info on the Subway, it sounds like its quite a technical hike (rope repelling). Can someone who has done the hike confirm this?

Thanks

T



jtangen
Registered: Aug 06, 2009
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I'm going to do the hike next Wed.

The rappelling is if you do "top-down".

"Bottom-Up" is just a long hike and the one I'm taking.

tibber59 wrote:
In reading info on the Subway, it sounds like its quite a technical hike (rope repelling). Can someone who has done the hike confirm this?

Thanks

T



tibber59
Registered: Oct 05, 2005
Total Posts: 7
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Good to know and thanks for the info! On the bottom up hike, how long of a hike it it (time and distance), and do you need to rent the wet suits that The Zion Adventure company rents to hike the narrows?



cwood
Registered: Jul 29, 2003
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The long way is from the East Fork trailhead. It's about eight miles roundtrip with fair amount of stream and boulder hopping. The descent from the trailhead down into the canyon is quite a grunt coming back out. Wear shoes that you can get wet but no need for a wet suit. Start early in the morning or you'll be hiking back out in the dark.

I was there Thursday, a week ago. Here is a link to a hidef video I shot of the hike and a few stills in a slide show format. YouTube hidef is pretty sucky, so excuse. The young bearded fellow works for me in my gallery near St. George...his name is Tyler and a pretty accomplished photographer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacXWU9vUUA



Ben Horne
Registered: Jan 10, 2002
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I am currently in Zion, typing this on my iPhone at a campground picnic table.

I drove up the canyon today to scout some shots. The color is starting to look very good at the far end of the canyon (the area around the narrows, as well as the grotto). I'm pretty sure it will be in it's prime later this week.

I shot a few photos of the river this afternoon, and got a bottom up permit for subway tomorrow. I am planning on a super early start for subway.

Those of you who are arriving in a week should have some pretty good conditions. However it is already perfectly shootable as is.



Ben Horne
Registered: Jan 10, 2002
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I hiked subway today. I started early, around 4:30AM, and finished just after 6PM. I ran into quite a few FMers today. I will be taking it easy tomorrow, no big hikes.

Fall color is past it's prime along the Left Fork on the hike to subway. It will be nearly gone by the weekend. Not many photos in that area rely on fall color though. If you are planning on shooting the cascades over the red sandstone, it is still quite a nice shot, but the leaves are nearly gone

The light is best on The main part of Subway in the early afternoon. Morning gives pretty good light too, but it is very ideal after 1PM.



Icypeak
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
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I descended The Subway from above with Bart and Robyn yesterday, and had a 'full day', 12 hours on the move with a number of mishaps and misadventures, but still glad for the experience to see such an amazing place that was hard to believe it was real. My tripod and ballhead now rest at the bottom of a deep icy black pool. It was nice to meet Ben shooting just below the final rappel point. I wish I was able to be more social, but hypothermia and muscle cramps were getting the best of me, and I just had to focus on getting out of there.

-Dave



Zeph
Registered: Jan 30, 2005
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Icypeak wrote:
I descended The Subway from above with Bart and Robyn yesterday, and had a 'full day', 12 hours on the move with a number of mishaps and misadventures, but still glad for the experience to see such an amazing place that was hard to believe it was real. My tripod and ballhead now rest at the bottom of a deep icy black pool. It was nice to meet Ben shooting just below the final rappel point. I wish I was able to be more social, but hypothermia and muscle cramps were getting the best of me, and I just had to focus on getting out of there.

-Dave


Sorry to hear about your loss, but glad you all made the best of it. Maybe a trip back in late August to rescue your gear.



winzphoto
Registered: Apr 23, 2007
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I got back today from the Zion. Yellows are peaking right now in the park. Gorgeous. We didn't go up Subway. There aren't any reds left (it's been too cold this year). A few days left!

-Kevin

Utah Photographer



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