New 27" iMac
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mfoto
Registered: Sep 19, 2002
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Wouuuu... almost missed this announcement with all talk of the 1D IV. I am actually more excited about this than I am about he Mark IV.

I was looking to add the 24" display to my MacBook Pro but I think I'd rather ad this iMac.

Well done Apple.

www.apple.com



matthewbmedia
Registered: Nov 30, 2008
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Anxious to see one in person. Wasn't happy about 16:9... But 2600 x 1440 is better than 1920 x 1200... :-)



Kukur
Registered: Oct 08, 2004
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Quad Core and expandable to 16Gb...

Maybe Aperture won't slow down on this one.



Booone0
Registered: Jan 19, 2008
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Guess it has an IPS Panel.. That's much better than previous iterations of the iMac, right? Also you can get ATI graphics. I think there were some issues with the previous NVidia dedicated graphics, but I don't know if those were just isolated to the Macbook Pros.

Looks like a great machine and probably the first iMac I would consider buying.

They also released a new macbook which is pretty slick for the price. I never liked the build of the previous polycarbonate ones (Fiancee has one and it's not that great), so maybe this will be a little nicer.

I know that as soon as I can't return my current MBP, they'll do one of those subtle spec-bumps. Thats how technology is I guess, can't stress about it.

Edit: Alright, I just got done looking at that new iMac. That 27" has got me drooling! How much might a windows PC, configured similarly (even home built) with a comparable display cost, with an i5 or i7?

If I were not saving for a wedding, I'd be saving for one of these....maybe she doesn't want to marry me after all?!



matthewbmedia
Registered: Nov 30, 2008
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They've always been IPS (the aluminum 24" ones) but now they are LED and IPS.

A side note I didn't catch earlier - The 27" display port doubles as an Input so you can also use the imac as a monitor if you wish.

Honestly an LED IPS 30" dual dvi display is not cheap, so a 27" with almost the same resolution (not as tall) with a computer at the same time for 1699 is a good deal.



mdude85
Registered: Apr 12, 2004
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Booone0 wrote:

Edit: Alright, I just got done looking at that new iMac. That 27" has got me drooling! How much might a windows PC, configured similarly (even home built) with a comparable display cost, with an i5 or i7?



The iMac is about $800 more than a similarly spec'd Dell desktop PC including a 24" monitor ($1209 for the Dell vs. $1999 for the iMac). The Dell XPS All-in-One is about the same price considering the larger size of the iMac 27" model, so if you are shopping for All-in-Ones, the iMac is probably a better deal.

I think people overestimate the value of a large HD monitor. You can get 27" HD monitor for about $400 or less on Newegg. Apple is not using cinema display quality monitors in these iMacs even though they are IPS. They are LED backlit, not full LED.



tomrock
Registered: Dec 15, 2003
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I know this makes me sound like a fanboy, but these are w-a-y more than a "good" deal.



matthewbmedia
Registered: Nov 30, 2008
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mdude85 wrote:

I think people overestimate the value of a large HD monitor. You can get 27" HD monitor for about $400 or less on Newegg.


Mdude - there is a huge difference between a 27" 1920 x 1080 monitor and a 27" 2600x1440 monitor. Pricing out a 30" LED IPS monitor and knocking a few dollars off is a more accurate cost estimate, hence my note above about $1699 being a good deal.



johnip
Registered: Apr 15, 2008
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mdude85 wrote:
Apple is not using cinema display quality monitors in these iMacs even though they are IPS. They are LED backlit, not full LED.


Just curious, what's the difference between a LED backlit and full LED monitor? I've never heard of full LED.



matthewbmedia
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I was curious about Dells cost too - the core i5 vostro 430 spec'd out to match the imac came to about $1050 with no monitor.



irfan
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johnip wrote:
mdude85 wrote:
Apple is not using cinema display quality monitors in these iMacs even though they are IPS. They are LED backlit, not full LED.


Just curious, what's the difference between a LED backlit and full LED monitor? I've never heard of full LED.



There are NO full LED panels on the market unless you count the Sony 11" OLED panel that goes for $2400.

EVERY LED panel is LCD with an LED lightsource (either LED backlight (with the possibility of local dimming like the XBR8 or similar samsungs/lgs, or sidelit like the newer XBR9 which is actually worse).

There are NO local dimming LED computer monitors in this range, if they even exist. the LED local dimmers are usually just HDTVs in the 55" range.



irfan
Registered: Oct 20, 2009
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mdude85 wrote:
Booone0 wrote:

Edit: Alright, I just got done looking at that new iMac. That 27" has got me drooling! How much might a windows PC, configured similarly (even home built) with a comparable display cost, with an i5 or i7?



The iMac is about $800 more than a similarly spec'd Dell desktop PC including a 24" monitor ($1209 for the Dell vs. $1999 for the iMac). The Dell XPS All-in-One is about the same price considering the larger size of the iMac 27" model, so if you are shopping for All-in-Ones, the iMac is probably a better deal.

I think people overestimate the value of a large HD monitor. You can get 27" HD monitor for about $400 or less on Newegg. Apple is not using cinema display quality monitors in these iMacs even though they are IPS. They are LED backlit, not full LED.


see above... the monitors you compare them to are a night and day difference. the quality of this is miles ahead of that cheap stuff. i'll challenge you to find me a full true LED 2600*1440 panel. they dont exist, they all use the LED as a backlight (or sidelight in laptops). OLED isnt even out of the research labs over 11".



pjbishop
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The proof will be in the calibration.



anthonyket
Registered: Dec 15, 2008
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humm its very compelling for me.. i was about to buy a Mac Pro, but instead brought a Core 2 Duo Mac Book Pro, as i run a NEC2490 as an external monitor, but with the new imac and quad core processing, thinking about switching. But how well will the 27" imac screen match with my NEC 2490 as a dual screen setup, if only they had a non gloss version??

What do you guys think?



matthewbmedia
Registered: Nov 30, 2008
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I prefer gloss since I never print on Matte paper...



cre55107
Registered: Sep 08, 2008
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I like it!



adamjohari
Registered: Apr 21, 2009
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finally a product from apple where i see that the price/performance ratio isn't high. the new 27 inch imacs are bitchingly sweet. too bad i need to save money as i might be switching jobs. gotta save for a rainy day. who ever buys this... congrats



richiebaz
Registered: Feb 25, 2008
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I was saving for a MacPro. I am getting an Intel i7 iMac 27" with 8GB RAM. Good thing is I already have enough money saved up for that!



musclepics
Registered: Sep 05, 2008
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I'm assuming these are glossy only?
Can you add ram to these aftermarket? Or do you have to give the money to Steve Jobs (oh noes!).



lou f
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desktop processors and 4 ram slots, what's not to like.



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