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Oregon Gal Registered: Nov 02, 2008 Total Posts: 1026 Country: United States |
I have a B/W conversion of Multnomah Falls and would like opinions and suggestions on improving the image. I have included the original color version as well. Thanks, Barbara |
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papageno Registered: Jul 03, 2003 Total Posts: 3437 Country: United States |
I'd consider burning both sides of this image to focus the viewer on the water. |
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AuntiPode Registered: Aug 05, 2008 Total Posts: 4922 Country: New Zealand |
For the original, the light is quite soft. To give it more snap, try a PS duplicate layer with the Soft Light blending mode and adjust the opacity slider to somewhere between 40% and 70%. Also some USM would probably help. A slightly different crop might also benefit. Perhaps a little off the top and right side. |
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Bob Jarman Registered: Feb 04, 2007 Total Posts: 3723 Country: United States |
Barbara, |
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Oregon Gal Registered: Nov 02, 2008 Total Posts: 1026 Country: United States |
Robert, AuntiPode & Bob, I appreciate all of your suggestions. The first image in color is just a straight conversion with no additional adjustments. I am always afraid to process with too much contrast. I tried again with a slightly different crop, adjusting the brightness, constrast, added a vignette and boosted the lighter areas to draw the eye in. I have also done some dodging and burning. Please let me know if I am on the right track or show me your versions so I may understand your visions. Thanks, Barbara |
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AuntiPode Registered: Aug 05, 2008 Total Posts: 4922 Country: New Zealand |
Here's an example of a less centered crop to consider that retains some of the upper falls. It also includes B & W conversion color slider tweaks and some dodging and burning: |
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Bert DeMars Registered: Nov 05, 2005 Total Posts: 155 Country: United States |
Barbara, |
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Kstenger Registered: Nov 09, 2005 Total Posts: 118 Country: United States |
1) Rotate the image so the bridge is horizontal (Level) |
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Bob Jarman Registered: Feb 04, 2007 Total Posts: 3723 Country: United States |
Barbara, ![]() ![]() Bob |
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AuntiPode Registered: Aug 05, 2008 Total Posts: 4922 Country: New Zealand |
Personally, I have no problem with the bridge at a small angle as long as the waterfall edge is horizontal. |
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Bob Jarman Registered: Feb 04, 2007 Total Posts: 3723 Country: United States |
AuntiPode wrote: |
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sbeme Registered: Dec 23, 2003 Total Posts: 12716 Country: United States |
A version from LR/Silver Efex using the color image. |
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Oregon Gal Registered: Nov 02, 2008 Total Posts: 1026 Country: United States |
Bob, AuntiPode, Bert, Scott, Ken, you all have such great suggestions and ideas. I learn so much from each of you. I can't seem to put my finger on it but something to me isn't quite right with the image. (I may just have to re-shoot the falls when I go back up that way). I wish when I shot these pictures that I bracketed the shots for more range, but I did at least use a neutral density filter. I will continue to try different things and see if I can't come up with a pleasing combination. I will post another pic when I finish the pp'ing. Thanks, Barbara |
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AuntiPode Registered: Aug 05, 2008 Total Posts: 4922 Country: New Zealand |
Getting good waterfall images can be very difficult. So much depends upon the light, as landscapes usually do. |
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newhaven Registered: Mar 16, 2008 Total Posts: 265 Country: United States |
My try. ![]() |
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Bob Jarman Registered: Feb 04, 2007 Total Posts: 3723 Country: United States |
newhave, |
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newhaven Registered: Mar 16, 2008 Total Posts: 265 Country: United States |
I used the method described here in combination with shadow/highlights. I will add a little bit more later, but this is most of it. |
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Bob Jarman Registered: Feb 04, 2007 Total Posts: 3723 Country: United States |
newhaven wrote: |
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Oregon Gal Registered: Nov 02, 2008 Total Posts: 1026 Country: United States |
Bob, I am glad you asked Newhaven that question. This forum just gets better and better with the wealth of knowledge that gets shared. |
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newhaven Registered: Mar 16, 2008 Total Posts: 265 Country: United States |
Here is a better way to add detail to the falls. This method involves looking for the channel with the best diffuse highlights. Since every file has ten channels, we open the original file in RGB (3 channels) and a duplicate in CMYK (4 channels). We don't need a LAB version (3 channels) this time. ![]() Commands: File> Open... [mfalls.jpg] [OK] Image> Duplicate... [mfalls_cmyk] [OK] Edit> Convert to Profile [Working CMYK -U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2] [OK] Highlight the RGB file. Layer> New...> Layer [OK] Make sure the new layer is activated (working layer). Image> Apply Image... ![]() Make a Super Lights luminosity mask according to Tony Kuyper's instructions. Load it. ![]() Layer> Layer Mask> Reveal Selection. Or, you can create an empty layer mask on Layer 1 and use Apply Image to copy the Super Lights channel directly into the layer mask. ![]() Filter> Blur> Gaussian Blur... (radius 2) [OK]. Duplicate Layer 1. Create a group for Layer 1 and Layer 1 copy. ![]() Adjust the opacity. ![]() References: Professional Photoshop 5th Edition by Dan Margulis http://www.goodlight.us/writing/luminositymasks/luminositymasks-1.html |