Your Favorite Photo Forums?
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Steady Hand
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 13713
Country: United States

Hi Friends,

I would like to know which are your favorite photography forums (besides this one of course).

I have occasionally seen some people post links here. But I have some other interests. I would like to understand what you see in those places and how your experience is shaped BY those places or the features or the people in them.

I am doing some research and think this may help others too, including our own little forum community here at FM.
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UPDATE JULY 5 2010:

I was doing some research last year about what makes a good forum "good" and such.

Obviously, forums, like any group or community, go through change and evolve. Some grow, some advance, some decline and some even disappear.

Since many people here got some value from this thread, I thought I would ask if any "new" forums may have hit the internet in the last year that people like and WHY they like them.

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Try to answer these questions if you will.:

1. What do you think makes a forum a nice place.

2. What have you seen that works or does not work?

3. How did you find the experience at those forums to be different from one another?

4. WHY do you think that happens?

5. IF you did not join one of those forums, WHY?

6. IF you did join at one time and left it, WHY?

IF you did not post your own photos there, WHY?

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7. Anyone from Asia or Latin America or Europe or Africa have photography forums in their areas they would like to suggest?

I would have thought someone from Japan would mention a forum. Anyone?

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I have posted my own forum experiences below in this discussion.

I will post the following to help others by just sharing my own experiences. Your experiences will be different, of course. No two people will see the same event the same way.

Here are a few of my experiences (good and bad), though I must admit these are impressions from years ago, so the situations, places, and personalities have no doubt changed over those years. When I first started visiting photo forums YEARS ago (2000 starting), I used to drop by the following:

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dpreview
This is a massive site with a huge following or membership and LOTS of stuff to read. I like their camera reviews. I used to enjoy the forums too. Some people were very nice. But, over time, I found the place had many trolls too. That was my first experience with trolls on the internet (I was new to the net experience). Unfortunately, the weakness I saw was that photos were kept out of discussions threads (at the time) and that meant it was a text only discussion and then one had to go to a gallery section to see photos. I bet that has changed, but it was a limitation at the time. I haven't participated there in years, but I bet if you want to find an answer, it is a good place to look and a good place for reviews (even if some people do not like their style). Lesson Learned: A troll or dominant person can spoil a forum or group quickly and change the entire experience for visitors.

Digital Wedding Forum
The digitalweddingforum was a very nice place (at the time) and it was free to join (at the time). I met some very nice and experienced photographers there. We discussed many aspects of professionalism and such. We also were pushing through on leading edge stuff as Digital was taking over from Film. It is now a paid subscription place now and seems "very driven" to get you to sign up on the front end, with very little ability to see why. Over time, I focused my business on high-end portraits and turned down more and more weddings, to the point that I stopped going to DWF years ago as my focus is now on a single image rather than any kind of event. Lesson Learned: This was during the whole "is it Film or Digital" phase of photography. The lesson was that photographers were more hung up on that than the customer. UPDATE NOTE: I am now aware (due to this thread) that there is a FEE to join and view this forum now. It used to be a free forum.

Photo.net
I used to spend time at photo.net too back in about 2000-2001. I liked it. Then. Unfortunately, I was moving from film into DSLR digital photography (Big investments on equipment at that time) and at that time, the photo.net community was VERY film-oriented (what many here would call "old school" ) and....well...there was some real bias there and LOTS of negative response to digital issues or topics. I am sure that MUST have changed since then....I hope. Lesson Learned: New technology causes some people to get VERY uncomfortable and to feel at risk. New technology can unsettle a profession as the transition takes place. Lesson? Adapt or become obsolete.


photo.sig
This forum is very interesting because it posts SO MANY photos in a very easy to view format and from all over the world. I enjoyed seeing the travel photos and photos from people who obviously love photograph as amateurs (the real love). You can surf there and see thumbnails or what is like a light box (anyone remember those? ) and see a MIX of images all at one glance. As Nina pointed out elsewhere in this discussion, it also has a critique area below each photo where viewers can post short comments (like seen here). Those critiques are also critiqued too for helpfulness etc. That is different. I have seen lots of beautiful photos there when I visited some years ago. I decided I would NOT post my own photos there for one very important reason: There is no division into groups there. So that means that a photo of a young child may be displayed right next to an "erotic" photo (some looks like porn to me) and those two photos go through time and cyberspace together. As I did not want my clients to see their children's photos on a site that shows that kind of nudity and erotic images, I decided that it was not the place for me to display my own work. Lesson Learned: There is a need to have some segmentation so that photo types/subjects are not mixed inappropriately on a forum.

digitalBWtheprint
Another forum I really liked (years ago) was: digitalBW (the print). This was/is a forum (a Yahoo group) devoted to making fine digital BW prints. Lots of arcane knowledge there and lots of talent too as the stuff was cutting edge then (2001). We used to have a lot of fun discussing the nit-picky details of paper and inks. At one time I was a real "Fine Art Paper Review Guru" (for a while). It was a real "gear head" kind of place that melded with the desire to make truly cutting edge digital fine art prints. From that place, I learned more about the physics of particles (carbon) in suspension, than I ever did in my physics classes! I also invested many thousands of dollars into gear, ink, and papers...and time and effort. I will always remember with fondness, the look and FEEL of a highly textured 100% paper Carbon print. WOW....they were beautiful! They make typical black and white prints (c prints now) look....cheap and plastic! Lesson Learned: Sometimes one can get TOO focused on the minute and miss the big picture.

Zuga.net
Hemmm....just as I am writing this, I recall visiting a few times a place called "zuga.net." Back in about 2001. That place was interesting for the concept. It had lots of "stuff" going on in the interface with lessons, videos, "TV" channels devoted to photography and stuff like that. What I learned there was that some people can tend to dominate a forum (in a negative way) and how that inhibited others. There were more than a few "internet bullies" there and some of the discussions were pretty ridiculous. But, that is probably because it was a forum that started as an offshoot of a bunch of students of one photographer. So there was a "dominant" theme and approach to photography that was all based on that one view of photography. I thought it was a place "stuck" in a closed box, narrow focus (on a particular style or "school") mentality. Everyone was told to pose a certain way for example. Lesson Learned:Not every photography forum is open to different styles or creative approaches. UPDATE: I don't believe this forum still exists.

(can't recall name...something like "digitalphotography forum")
I seem to recall another "digital" oriented forum where people posted photos and they had contests and stuff like that. I truly don't remember the name at the moment, as I have not see it for years. But I do remember it was a "competition" oriented place and then they sold the prints for the best photos. Perhaps someone here knows that place and can tell others about it and how it works today.
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Each of these on-line communities has something to offer a photographer. I gained something from each experience. Sometimes it was very positive, sometimes (unfortunately) it was negative. Just like a big group of people, there are nice folks and there are 'trolls.'
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Also, I read something today about facebook. I have never posted anything on facebook before. Does it have some method of keeping pictures from being copied from the facebook account/wall/page? I think some forums have a covering transparent image or some other features designed to discourage copying of photos. I know Zenfolio or Flicker has something like that. Any input?

It has been years since I looked around at other forums and I have been so busy here. Just thought I would check and see how others find other forums on photography.

I am thinking of forums where photos are displayed or discussed, rather than just text forums.

Thanks in advance for any insights or opinions.
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B Erickson
Registered: Apr 24, 2004
Total Posts: 730
Country: United States

I like the (POTN) Canon Digital Photography Forums. The Glamour and People sections are both pretty active and seem to have good critiques and dialogue.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php



mrhoni
Registered: Jan 02, 2009
Total Posts: 235
Country: United States

Have you checked Photo.Net.

If not, take a look. I think this site is definitely into displaying photos and then people can comment and critique and rank. There are also Photos can be copied. I'm not sure why I don't go there anymore but there are great photos to be seen there.

There are numerous forums and I think these are more for discussion. I don't think photos are posted into a thread??



RMigliaccio
Registered: Aug 24, 2004
Total Posts: 13
Country: United States

For Nikon fans - there is the Nikonians website - www.nikonians.org.



Geo31
Registered: Jul 29, 2006
Total Posts: 510
Country: United States

Regarding Facebook, not only can your photos be copied, but if you post photos there, IIRC you transfer your copyright to Facebook (for ALL content, not just photos) in perpetuity when you agree to their terms or policies or whatever the heck it is. There was some real furor over this a while back.



grafx
Registered: Dec 11, 2006
Total Posts: 133
Country: United States

I have seen familiar names from here on www.dpreview.com/forums



Steady Hand
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 13713
Country: United States

B Erickson wrote:
I like the (POTN) Canon Digital Photography Forums. The Glamour and People sections are both pretty active and seem to have good critiques and dialogue.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php


Thanks. I have never seen that one (that I recall). I will check it out.



Steady Hand
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 13713
Country: United States

mrhoni wrote:
Have you checked Photo.Net.

If not, take a look. I think this site is definitely into displaying photos and then people can comment and critique and rank. There are also Photos can be copied. I'm not sure why I don't go there anymore but there are great photos to be seen there.

There are numerous forums and I think these are more for discussion. I don't think photos are posted into a thread??


Thanks for adding to the discussion.

Photo.net was a place I used to visit about 8 years ago. I have not seen it lately. I am sure it is full of stuff and worth a visit.

I used to buy and sell my gear there years ago. Then I found FM.



Steady Hand
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 13713
Country: United States

RMigliaccio wrote:
For Nikon fans - there is the Nikonians website - www.nikonians.org.



Ahhh....the "Dark Side."

I don't know if they would let me in. I shoot with mostly Canon gear.

I might need a "sponsor."

But...I KNOW that place has lots of expertise.

Thanks for adding it to my list to check.



Steady Hand
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 13713
Country: United States

Geo31 wrote:
Regarding Facebook, not only can your photos be copied, but if you post photos there, IIRC you transfer your copyright to Facebook (for ALL content, not just photos) in perpetuity when you agree to their terms or policies or whatever the heck it is. There was some real furor over this a while back.


Thanks for adding that warning too.

That is an issue to consider....seriously.

I have never opened a Facebook account because when I read (carefully) the Terms pages (most people don't), I was surprised by that kind of position.

But....who knows. Maybe....it is a misunderstanding.

Anyone else have something to add on THIS issue?



Steady Hand
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 13713
Country: United States

grafx wrote:
I have seen familiar names from here on www.dpreview.com/forums



Yes...that is a BIG forum.

I used to spend many hours there years ago.

I liked the place and "met" some nice folks there.

And....I also saw how it had a "harsh" side or trolls too. Some discussions just went down down down.

I do think it has the most content for reviews and it is SO BIG and fast moving it has lots to offer to most photographers.



MarcyJillGood
Registered: May 19, 2009
Total Posts: 997
Country: United States

My brother & his wife (both good photographers) love Flickr. I am so hooked on FM that I rarely go to Flickr at all and don't really like it that much. I told my brother about FM and he can see the difference, too.

Some friends use Photo Bucket (I think that's the right name), but it seems to behave more like Flickr and is mostly good for sharing pics with a specific group of friends. I have not seen a decent way to use FB for photography, but maybe there are groups on that site that specialize in it. Seems like it would be difficult to do anything as sophisticated as on FM due to the way FB is designed (it works great as a social networking site, though).

Just my small contribution of pennies to this thread -

Marcy



richdavid
Registered: Jun 13, 2004
Total Posts: 447
Country: United States

I peek in here quite often.

http://photocamel.com/



Steady Hand
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 13713
Country: United States

MarcyJillGood wrote:
My brother & his wife (both good photographers) love Flickr. I am so hooked on FM that I rarely go to Flickr at all and don't really like it that much. I told my brother about FM and he can see the difference, too.

Some friends use Photo Bucket (I think that's the right name), but it seems to behave more like Flickr and is mostly good for sharing pics with a specific group of friends. I have not seen a decent way to use FB for photography, but maybe there are groups on that site that specialize in it. Seems like it would be difficult to do anything as sophisticated as on FM due to the way FB is designed (it works great as a social networking site, though).

Just my small contribution of pennies to this thread -

Marcy


Hi Marcy.

Thanks for adding the details.

I have never seen Photo Bucket (PB) nor have I ever used Flickr. I have seen many images linked from here to a Flickr site. So I have seen the page view there. I found the Flickr interface "poor" (not good) for my intended use.



Steady Hand
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 13713
Country: United States

richdavid wrote:
I peek in here quite often.

http://photocamel.com/


Hi Rich.

I had forgotten about that place. Thanks for posting the link. I just visited it and saw that it has "38,000" members. That is a LOT more members since the last time I saw that forum some 5 years ago (or so).



NinaS
Registered: Nov 14, 2005
Total Posts: 1208
Country: United States

the only other national forum I am a regular http://www.photosig.com
awesome for critiquing, and you can't receive critiques unless you give them, great system

There are a few regional / NW forums

for model photogs http://thetalentalliance.com/forums/northwest/

for scenic & portrait photogs
http://nwphotoforum.com/forums/portal.php and
http://www.pnwphotos.com/forum/



cmillc22
Registered: Mar 07, 2008
Total Posts: 765
Country: United States

when Paul Buff's Forum closed down Fritz started a new forum called pixelburners.com. It is growing and i see a lot of FMer's on there.



FSJ_Guy
Registered: Jun 21, 2004
Total Posts: 1737
Country: United States

Steady Hand wrote:
Geo31 wrote:
Regarding Facebook, not only can your photos be copied, but if you post photos there, IIRC you transfer your copyright to Facebook (for ALL content, not just photos) in perpetuity when you agree to their terms or policies or whatever the heck it is. There was some real furor over this a while back.


Thanks for adding that warning too.

That is an issue to consider....seriously.

I have never opened a Facebook account because when I read (carefully) the Terms pages (most people don't), I was surprised by that kind of position.

But....who knows. Maybe....it is a misunderstanding.

Anyone else have something to add on THIS issue?


They modified this several months back. There was standard language in there stating that they had the rights to your photo SO THEY COULD BACK IT UP on their servers. That was is. They modified it so that it looked less "scary" to people. Also, there was language in there saying that even if you delete your account, some versions may still exist on their BACKUP servers for a period of time. It was all legal CYA stuff, but some people saw it and freaked out.

IMHO, FB is NOT a good way to display photos simply because the image size is too small for decent viewing. FB is a social networking site, not a photo sharing site.



Steady Hand
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 13713
Country: United States

Content of my post moved up the thread.

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Steady Hand
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 13713
Country: United States

NinaS wrote:
the only other national forum I am a regular http://www.photosig.com
awesome for critiquing, and you can't receive critiques unless you give them, great system

There are a few regional / NW forums

for model photogs http://thetalentalliance.com/forums/northwest/

for scenic & portrait photogs
http://nwphotoforum.com/forums/portal.php and
http://www.pnwphotos.com/forum/



Hi Nina.

Thanks for posting those links in this discussion.

I forgot about photo.sig. (old memory)*

I will edit my remarks above to include my own experiences there. Thanks for reminding me about the place. *(shows how seldom I visit there).

I have never heard about those others. Thanks.



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