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bacilonur Registered: Aug 14, 2006 Total Posts: 2698 Country: United States |
(UPDATE AS OF JUNE, 2010: Aims has updated their 180W inverter to achieve UL certification. Not only is the new model too long for the Pelican 1050, but some of the internals have changed and it can no longer provide power to any flashes that I have tested it with. I may or may not find a suitable alternative. Until then, don't sell your Pelican pack! ![]() Inverter: (Aims 180) http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=207660580=21791575 Battery: http://cheapbatterypacks.com/?menu=660F3530DE (10 cells/12V, Double-Flat, 5aH Sub-c cells, 16awg, female Deans connector, with copper bar upgrade) Charger: http://www.batteryjunction.com/ch-un180.html Things you'll need: Spare male/female Deans connectors, soldering iron, shrink wrap, heat gun or lighter, dremel, multimeter, maybe a glue gun, and a couple hours. Since space is at a premium, I'll be cutting a slot into the side for the inverter's AC and power switch to fit into. The battery will be mounted to the lid using two long strips of velcro, I suggest you get a big 15-25ft roll of velcro. The inverter will be mounted with velcro on the side to save on horizontal space. Read the following pages to see how it went. |
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PeterBerressem Registered: Sep 05, 2007 Total Posts: 637 Country: Germany |
What do you want to power? 180W continuous / 360W peak power isn't that much... |
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bacilonur Registered: Aug 14, 2006 Total Posts: 2698 Country: United States |
Well, I'd intended it to be a poor man's/Florida-proof Quadra, and I think it's ideal for something like a 300RX or AB800. It should get about 200 full power pops out of a 300ws strobe, which is perfect for me because I'm making 3 of them and they'll all come to just 12 or 13lbs, so unless you're popping all 3 packs at the same time at full power, you're guaranteed a backup in case one goes flat. |
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eSchwab Registered: Dec 26, 2007 Total Posts: 2020 Country: United States |
Teh 300RX won't work on it. The 300S will though. |
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tedwca Registered: Dec 31, 2002 Total Posts: 191 Country: United States |
Bah, quit being a cheapskate and do it right. |
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bacilonur Registered: Aug 14, 2006 Total Posts: 2698 Country: United States |
tedwca wrote: |
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Gregg Heckler Registered: Aug 07, 2005 Total Posts: 1383 Country: United States |
The RX should work but the BX or multi-voltage units probably wouldn't. |
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Michael White Registered: Jan 21, 2007 Total Posts: 686 Country: United States |
Take a hint and try out your setup before mounting it to make sure everything works. Theory almost always works on paper but in the real world often falls short unless proven. I would add in at least a 20% fudge factor in all my values. i.e. The light says it needs 300ws of power use 300+20% so use 360 as you power rating and if the inverter says it will give you 360watts figure you will get 300 watts from it continually. That way you are not fully taxing the units. and use the full time rating and not the max rating since the max rating is only foor surges not constant use. I would buy the inverter the batteries and work from there as you may need dual batteries to maintain enough voltage to power the inverter. Also if you normally shoot x amount of pops on an assignment test it to triple the number of pops once you got the battery and inverter solved then figure out how much airflow will be needed to keep everything cool then build a wooden box the same size of the pelican case you plan on using and work it out from there. |
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pcunite Registered: Apr 14, 2005 Total Posts: 120 Country: United States |
bacilonur wrote: |
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cwebster Registered: Oct 03, 2005 Total Posts: 3050 Country: United States |
Check out this thread about the real power draw of your strobes. |
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bacilonur Registered: Aug 14, 2006 Total Posts: 2698 Country: United States |
Alright, here's a little update: The batteries I settled on were on back-order and B&H still doesn't have the black 1050's in stock, but I got one battery pack to start doing some testing and it arrived today. Just finished putting it together and they work great. ![]() ![]() ![]() I got bored of firing it but I triggered the AB800 at least 100 times at full power and it was still chugging along perfectly. The battery wasn't even warm, but the inverter's fan kicked in after around 30-40 pops. Recycle is about 2.3-2.4 seconds for the AB800 on full power. Half power was exactly half that time. I did a lot of research before deciding on this battery pack, and I got the copper bar upgrade (which allegedly gives me 75+ amps of draw), so it's definitely the inverter that's causing the bottleneck. Still, this thing is tiny and only 1lb, so it's not bad. I may get a voltage display so I can see the power drop in real time for each pack. I'll set up an intervalometer this weekend to get an exact number of pops at 5-10s intervals. |
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kylegehmlich Registered: Mar 04, 2008 Total Posts: 235 Country: Canada |
That's pretty sweet man, thanks for the update. Just the other day I was wondering if you'd gone ahead with it. |
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mdelrossi Registered: Jul 07, 2003 Total Posts: 58 Country: United States |
Where did you get the battery? |
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400d Registered: Dec 11, 2005 Total Posts: 1295 Country: N/A |
It says cheapbatterypacks.com on the pack... |
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cathpah Registered: Jan 28, 2006 Total Posts: 744 Country: United States |
WOW. If you're getting a unit of that size/cost to give you 100+ pops at full power, that's downright impressive. |
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bacilonur Registered: Aug 14, 2006 Total Posts: 2698 Country: United States |
Yeah, it's from Cheapbatterypacks.com, it's made for RC applications that are actually much more tasking than what I'm doing with it. |
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kylegehmlich Registered: Mar 04, 2008 Total Posts: 235 Country: Canada |
bacilonur wrote: |
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77civic1200 Registered: Mar 03, 2006 Total Posts: 84 Country: Canada |
Do you know the appox. cost of all the parts together? |
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bacilonur Registered: Aug 14, 2006 Total Posts: 2698 Country: United States |
$100 for each Aims 180, $70-ish for the battery, $35-$100 for the charger (depending on features), $15 for the Pelican 1050, and $20 for cables, connectors, fuses, shrink wrap, etc. |