What are the best 40mm lens?
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Astragony
Registered: Jan 24, 2009
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Country: Italy

I own a 50L and I really really love it but I'm considering selling it for financial reasons and because it's a little too tight for me.

I would really like a 40-45mm fast lens.
I am thinking about the voigtlander 40mm f2 ultron or maybe the zuiko 40mm f2, they are both pretty much the same price and look pretty good.
Is there anything faster?
What are the good lens that fit my need?

Thank you.



DubiousDrewski
Registered: Jun 03, 2008
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Country: Canada

So for your purposes, "better" means faster? Because if F2.8 is acceptable, the Pentax 40mm F2.8 pancake is magnificantly sharp and has 9 perfectly rounded blades. A friend of mine owns it and I'm always thoroughly impressed by the optical quality of the images it creates - ESPECIALLY the bokeh. Oh my, the bokeh is smooth. I hear it's pretty easy to adapt K Mount to Canon as well.

EDIT: Pentax also makes a 43mm F1.9, but I know very little about it in comparison. It's also rarer and more expensive.



alexandre
Registered: Jun 30, 2005
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I don't think there's any 40/1.4 adaptable to EF mount.
Somebody (JMan13, I reckon) has one and uses it with EP-1.

I have a 40/2 but haven't tested it on DSLRs yet.



rachp
Registered: Dec 16, 2004
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I vote for the Voigtlander



pascal03
Registered: Jan 21, 2005
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The Nikon 45mm f2.8 P is superb. Very good contrast and colors that pop. It is supposed to be very similar in design to the CZ 45mm f2.8 pancake.
The OM 40mm f2 is probably the best one and is highly regarded. It is usable right from f2.0. This is also the smallest 40mm lens you can mount on your Canon SLR without any issues.

I have not tried the 40mm f2.0 Ultron, but have the SLII 20mm f3.5. If the build quality and image quality if as good as the 20mm, it is definitely worth the $$$'s.

The ideal replacement for the Canon 50L is either the Olympus 50mm f1.2 or the Nikon 50mm f1.2 AiS.



Ed Sawyer
Registered: May 08, 2007
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Minolta Rokkor 45mm f/2 can be converted for canon and is generally dirt cheap. Under $50 easily.

-Ed



dfresh
Registered: Feb 13, 2005
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brainiac has posted some very nice samples from the Zuiko 40/2 in the past



patrickphoto
Registered: Oct 04, 2006
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OM



Astragony
Registered: Jan 24, 2009
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Ed Sawyer wrote:
Minolta Rokkor 45mm f/2 can be converted for canon and is generally dirt cheap. Under $50 easily.

-Ed


I might just try it, how good is the lens? any mirror problems with a 5dmkII?

Thanks.

Edit: thanks anyway but after a bit of research I decided it's not worth converting the lens...



gasrocks
Registered: May 23, 2005
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How is the Kilfitt 40 macro?



mawz
Registered: Sep 11, 2005
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The Voightlander and OM are far and away the best options. IMHO the Voigtlander's a bit better optically, is available new for less than the OM sells for and includes a hood and a close-up adapter that gets you 1:4.

The Pentax 40/2.8 is quite a good lens, but corner performance suffers, especially on the M version which is the only adaptable version for DSLR users. The DA Limited is better at the edges but not up to the f2's.

The Nikon and Contax 45/2.8's are both excellent for their simple Tessar design. Superb bokeh and centre sharpness but like the similar Pentax 40, edge performance suffers especially at wide apertures.

The Konica Hexanon 40/1.8 is by all reports an excellent lens, but requires work to adapt to mounts other than 4/3rds.

@pascal03: the 20/3.5 is by far the worst performer of the SLII lenses. It's still pretty darned good.



Steve Spencer
Registered: Nov 08, 2006
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Anybody every use the Pentax 43mm f/1.9 FA limited? How does it stack up to the others?



Ed Sawyer
Registered: May 08, 2007
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The minolta 45/2 is really not bad, on par with the others. Cheaper than most if not all, and the conversion is not too bad. I'll post the test results soon, it compares well with the OM 40/2 from the tests of both in Modern Photography in years past.

-Ed



Jim Schemel
Registered: Oct 18, 2006
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Country: United States

Here is a set of pics taken with the Minolta Rokkor 45f2 on a 5D.Very nice lens
PS. this copy is for sale.: http://www.flickr.com/photos/footstool67/sets/72157622079471838/

For Sale here : http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/820795



Sam N
Registered: Dec 16, 2006
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Country: United States

The Voigtlander 40/2 is pretty sweet, but here are some alternatives to consider:

1) Get a 35L... you will NOT be disappointed and you keep AF. It's close enough to 40mm and you can always crop a tiny bit with all those pixels on the 5D2.

2) Get a GF1 and the 20/1.7.



PhotoMaximum
Registered: Sep 10, 2008
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OK, I am a HUGE fan of Pentax lenses. I have bought and sold the very best.

I have the M series 40/2.8. Its really a great sample of the "Pancake"offerings. But, to be honest, it does not have the best IQ I have seen from Pentax. I should mention that I have only one sample to base this impression on.

I would be very interested in a shoot out test with this lens against the Oly version...



wlachan
Registered: Jul 29, 2005
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Pentax DA40/2.8 has no aperture ring so it is useless on EOS body. The 20 years old M40/2.8 is FF, well made and has 5 aperture blades but optically not particular good by todays standard. FA43/1.9 has great sharpness corner to corner from f2.8 on APS-C, with 8 aperture blades but rather soft wide open. Also, the corners aren't particular great and barrel distortion is noticeable on FF.



dirb9
Registered: Oct 18, 2005
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Has anybody used the Konica 40/1.8 compared with the other 40mm lenses out there? I've seen it for pretty cheap as a kit lens with the Autoreflex bodies.



kosmoskatten
Registered: Oct 11, 2005
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dirb9;
I "grew up" with the Konica 40/1.8 on a Konica FC-B (I think). It was my very first lens and my very first camera. I was around 15 then and processed the negs at school. The detail was amazing from this lens and I realized many years later into photography that I had started out with one of the better ones.

I have shot the Nikkor 45P, the Zeiss Tessar 45/2.8, the Contax G 45mm (and numerous other 50mm lenses) and my favourites are the Contax G45/2 and the old Hexanon 40/1.8.
I have a battered copy of the 40/1.8 but I don't know if it is feasible to convert it to the Sony Alpha mount. I used it briefly in the 4:3 mount on a PanaLeica which is close to the native Konica mount - it looked great.



rsrsrs
Registered: May 14, 2008
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hi,

i'm selling my olympus 40mm on ebay.de.
its the sample for 432.
if u bid 415 its yours ...

so dont hesitate ...

r-)



IDURITA
Registered: Jan 13, 2005
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Some images taken with the Oly 40mm (in fact my very first):

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eow_1
Registered: Jul 12, 2006
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A couple taken with a Hexanon 40/1.8 on 50D

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PhotoMaximum
Registered: Sep 10, 2008
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Does your Hexanon 40/1/8 work on a FF body like the 5D?

How was the conversion process?



eow_1
Registered: Jul 12, 2006
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Country: United States

PhotoMaximum wrote:
Does your Hexanon 40/1/8 work on a FF body like the 5D?

I am not sure since I do not have one or convenient access to one. It may hang the mirror because the rear element does protrude at infinity.

How was the conversion process?


Conversion process is not too hard: replace the rear mount, shave the aperture ring, play with the focus helical to get most of the shift to the rear and space the front filter ring out some so the lens assembly can move back far enough to hit infinity. The aperture control link then needs to be made, I used a m42->EOS adapter to start so I ground a place for the aperture ring to be able to link to the internal control arm. I did shave my adapter but in the end I do not know how much I really needed to since it now focuses to infinity well before hitting the stop.

Here it is mounted



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voeboe
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The Pentax FA 43mm Limited provides great IQ in such a small package On top of everything it's also an autofocus lens. Metaphorically speaking it's a feather weight champion punching it's way through in the heavy weight fights

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Pentax 43mm f/1.9 Limited on film
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Pentax 43mm f/1.9 Limited on film
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