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Seth Tower Registered: Oct 10, 2006 Total Posts: 3751 Country: United States |
I've recently noticed that when I import JPEGs from my 5DII into Lightroom (v2.4) or open them in PS CS4, there is a massive difference in exposure than what is visible in Explorer or BreezeBrowser (or on the back of the camera, for that matter). In BB, the exposure is perfect, the colors are vibrant and the contrast is punchy. If I open the identical file in PS or import it into LR, the contrast is flat, the colors are muted and the exposure is up a solid stop in the shadows, bringing out nasty noise that is otherwise not there. Looking at the histograms between LR and BB, they are identical, but what I see, and thus will edit, is completely different. Hence, when I edit the photo to bring out the contrast and add punch and export it out of LR, it's WAY overprocessed. Any help on this? |
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Peter Figen Registered: Apr 28, 2007 Total Posts: 1835 Country: United States |
If you have indeed correctly calibrated your screen, it's the Ps and LR previews that should be trusted. Your apps that you think look fine are, in fact, not color managed and have no way to use both the working space and monitor profile to display your image. The difference you are seeing between your color managed and non color managed apps is basically the difference in color spaces between you working space and your monitor space. This is completely normal. |
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Seth Tower Registered: Oct 10, 2006 Total Posts: 3751 Country: United States |
Interesting. Yeah, my monitor is calibrated with Huey Pro. It's odd that they wouldn't look the same in BB. I thought that had color profiles built-in. |
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Peter Figen Registered: Apr 28, 2007 Total Posts: 1835 Country: United States |
Seth, |
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brad_s Registered: Sep 09, 2004 Total Posts: 1103 Country: United States |
Is it possible that in BB there is additional post processing when you open/import the file? |
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Seth Tower Registered: Oct 10, 2006 Total Posts: 3751 Country: United States |
Yes, BB applies a mild unsharp mask, but it I leave it disabled. Toggling between the two doesn't change the apparent exposure. Also, as I mentioned above, it looks the same in Explorer and BB. Only in LR and PS are they different. |
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flash Registered: Dec 10, 2002 Total Posts: 1792 Country: Australia |
Forget Explorer. It's not colour aware so it is impossible to use it for accuracy. It may be right, or not. You'll never know. I'm not sure whether Breeze is colour managed properly. |
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UCSB Registered: Jan 10, 2006 Total Posts: 4009 Country: United States |
Seth ... what kind of monitor are you using? Is it a wide gamut monitor? If so, your color will look much more intense in non-color managed applications. These applications are displaying your images incorrectly. |
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Seth Tower Registered: Oct 10, 2006 Total Posts: 3751 Country: United States |
My monitor is a Dell 2709W 27'' LCD. I always shoot in sRGB. I use no importing settings in LR. |
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UCSB Registered: Jan 10, 2006 Total Posts: 4009 Country: United States |
That is a wide gamut monitor. You will ONLY get accurate color in color managed applications. All other applications will be junk. The junk will look very vivid/intense (especially in the reds/greems). There is a lot more to this topic, but here is the short version. |
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James_N Registered: Dec 31, 2005 Total Posts: 1013 Country: United States |
Breeze Browser Pro is a color managed application but in its default setting Color Management is not turned on. The fact that your images appear the same in Explorer and BB Pro leads me to suspect that you don't have Color Management enabled. |
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Seth Tower Registered: Oct 10, 2006 Total Posts: 3751 Country: United States |
Okay, so I've put PS in "Monitor RGB" and it actually matches BB (which is also in sRGB), but LR is still way, WAY off. To further throw a wrench in the engine, I had some prints made (with no adjustments from either me or the lab) and they match the BB and PS profiles; no where near what LR is displaying. Check out the below screenshots. Look at the difference in the general exposure; the shadow noise is incredible. |