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Michael Gordon Registered: Apr 07, 2007 Total Posts: 271 Country: United States |
Been getting by with a compact T32, but miss some AF assist in lower light. I thought the Metz 58 looked very interesting with the extra small flash for fill,but I've heard the software hasn't been reworked for the changed protocols on the 5D11. The Metz has good reviews by W. Crocket. The normal auto modes on the C 580 seem to be hidden in a nested menu. Thanks for any comments. |
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kakomu Registered: May 28, 2009 Total Posts: 3323 Country: United States |
I really like my 580EX II. If you're going to spend >$350 on a flash, I'm not sure why you don't consider the Canon brand. |
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wildmontana Registered: May 13, 2009 Total Posts: 98 Country: United States |
I will second the 580EXII. |
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helimat Registered: Apr 06, 2008 Total Posts: 3213 Country: Canada |
Although I have wanted a 580EXII for some time in order to play with the on camera menus, the original 580EX offers a lot for the price too. |
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KaaX Registered: Apr 09, 2009 Total Posts: 290 Country: N/A |
If you're buying a single flash, I'd actually suggest the 430EX. It's smaller and lighter. What you are giving up in comparison with a 580EX is the ability to work as a master and control other slave flashes wirelessly -- but if that's your only flash this ability doesn't matter. |
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kakomu Registered: May 28, 2009 Total Posts: 3323 Country: United States |
KaaX wrote: |
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Mark Sisco Registered: Oct 16, 2002 Total Posts: 2713 Country: United States |
580EX II. I used and loved Metz years ago .... the MZ54 with my original 1D. I tried the MZ58 a couple of years ago with my MkII and ended up returning it. It was like torture making adjustments like FEC in fast moving situations. Too many button pushes. It may be more natural for others, but for me it was too cumbersome. |
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craigbess Registered: Apr 30, 2008 Total Posts: 256 Country: United States |
580 EXII |
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yauyi Registered: Jul 30, 2007 Total Posts: 783 Country: United States |
580EX or 580EXII |
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bobbytan Registered: Feb 03, 2004 Total Posts: 5261 Country: United States |
True. And it's so easy to switch from Off to Master to Slave with the switch. A little simpler to use than the Mk II. Great value. I don't think the Mk II has that much more to offer. |
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Michael Gordon Registered: Apr 07, 2007 Total Posts: 271 Country: United States |
Perhaps I was overly influenced by the smartshooter review. I thought the Ettl-2 not infrequently did not do so well with fill flash and the normal auto mode was too buried in the 580 EX or EX11. If the FEC is buried in the Metz, it may be a wash. |
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kakomu Registered: May 28, 2009 Total Posts: 3323 Country: United States |
Michael Gordon wrote: |
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Karokan Registered: Sep 16, 2008 Total Posts: 111 Country: Canada |
430EXII works fine with mine. at some point will upgrade though |
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globalkiwi Registered: Jul 02, 2008 Total Posts: 2240 Country: United States |
There's an instant rebate ($70) promotion on Canon's speedlights running at the moment on Canon's us website: |
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cgardner Registered: Nov 18, 2002 Total Posts: 7929 Country: United States |
Michael Gordon wrote: ![]() ![]() ![]() Put the back of the subject to the sun and first adjust the ambient exposure so the sun lit highlights are not clipping. In Av mode that may require - 2 EC. Once the ambient is correctly exposed turn on the flash in ETTL mode and more often than not the metering will match the "hole" in the middle of the ambient pattern created by the backlit subject with the correct amount of fill flash at FEC =0. Another thing to realize about "fill" flash is that the open sky the subject faces is actually providing the fill for the shadows and the flash is actually acting in the role of frontal key light creating the highlight pattern. Understanding the difference and actual role of the flash in that situation guides its placement. To get natural looking lighting with flash in a backlit scenario its necessary to raise the flash so the light hits the face from a natural overhead direction. A camera-flip bracket is ideal for that. BTW the solution to the dark eye socket problem, which will also occur in open shade when shooting at eye level, is to bring a ladder along on your outdoor shoots or find some higher vantage point to stand on when shooting. The root cause of the dark eye sockets is the fact the high angle of the sky light results in the brow shading the eyes. The solution is to raise the face into the light so it reaches the eyes and eliminates the shadows. The ladder is so you can also raise the camera position to capture a flattering above nose level view of the face once it is in the better light. The same applies in a backlit situation which is simply the face in the open shade created by the head. The brow will often shade the the fill light being provided by the sky if you shoot at ground level. You'll get better results if you raise the camera and have the subject look up to it and get the fill from the sky into the orbits See this tutorial I did on High Speed FP mode, which is ideal when shooting outdoors: LINK |