eBay buyers have basically gone insane..
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Elan II
Registered: Oct 08, 2005
Total Posts: 486
Country: United States

20 hours to go.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180372841961


Edit: Auction over. $405 for a Nikon 28mm f/2.8 AI-S.



---XR---
Registered: Oct 31, 2008
Total Posts: 251
Country: United States

i've seen buyers in places like austrailia pay $850 for a 300mm F4 (AF)

(i payed $390 for the minty one)

sometimes the best way to sell equipment there is to offer shipping to other countries, of the 10 or 15 photography things i've sold on there, almost everything had someone asking to ship to a different country.

other than that peoples first instinct in looking for anything to by used is to go to flebay, and they must find it easier to do than look through Bhphoto or Adorama.



TXwes
Registered: Apr 16, 2009
Total Posts: 18
Country: United States

I have a rare tulip for sale if anyone is interested.



BenjaminL
Registered: Sep 26, 2003
Total Posts: 1201
Country: United States

Too bad Nikon just don't make lens with this kind of build quality any more. what a shame.



LarsOJohannes
Registered: Mar 29, 2006
Total Posts: 493
Country: United States

Its because he is quoting Ken.



brucemuir
Registered: Dec 24, 2008
Total Posts: 1422
Country: United States

look at the leading bidders feedback. Zero.

they never pay and get in bidding wars with some other newbie.

click on bid history and it will tell the entire story.



louis fusco
Registered: Nov 18, 2005
Total Posts: 3930
Country: Ireland

TXwes wrote:
I have a rare tulip for sale if anyone is interested.



rjk55425
Registered: Jul 12, 2003
Total Posts: 2711
Country: United States

Thats it, I am listing mine.



rhyder
Registered: Jul 10, 2004
Total Posts: 2464
Country: United States

BenjaminL wrote:
Too bad Nikon just don't make lens with this kind of build quality any more. what a shame.




eaglewolf
Registered: Jan 15, 2006
Total Posts: 2426
Country: United States

Yeah, but check these out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-AF-Nikkor-28mm-f-1-4-28-1-4-D_W0QQitemZ160343124055QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Lenses?hash=item255531e857&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-Nikkor-28mm-f-1-4-Lens-1-4-afd-MINT-USA_W0QQitemZ200357279795QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Lenses?hash=item2ea6397833&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I'd love to have a 28 f/1.4, but those prices are absurd. What did those things cost new? Of course, at the time I looked they also had no bidders. Notice the first one is 10% off - what a deal!

Man, Nikon could put a stop to this if they would just release an AF-S version of this lens that met or exceeded that one. Or maybe Nikon is fine with this type of price gouging - Lord knows they do enough of it on their own. (Anyone check out the price of a new F6 lately?)

David



SnaggS
Registered: Feb 26, 2004
Total Posts: 737
Country: Australia

AI-S glass has gone way up in value since they matrix meter with new bodies and with the shift to full frame. The build quality is unmatched.

As for the 28 f/1.4.. that went banana's after the D3 launch.

Daniel.



Andre Labonte
Registered: Dec 21, 2005
Total Posts: 7483
Country: United States

A fool and his money are soon parted.



Avi B
Registered: Dec 07, 2006
Total Posts: 4813
Country: Canada

TXwes wrote:
I have a rare tulip for sale if anyone is interested.


I bid 1000....

(pssst what's a tulip?)



Elan II
Registered: Oct 08, 2005
Total Posts: 486
Country: United States

TXwes wrote:
I have a rare tulip for sale if anyone is interested.



And I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts.

Bruce: yes, a 'battle of the zeros' of sorts. But even for them it's insane.

Benjamin: +++1




Max Power
Registered: Mar 27, 2006
Total Posts: 178
Country: United States

eaglewolf wrote:
Yeah, but check these out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-AF-Nikkor-28mm-f-1-4-28-1-4-D_W0QQitemZ160343124055QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Lenses?hash=item255531e857&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-Nikkor-28mm-f-1-4-Lens-1-4-afd-MINT-USA_W0QQitemZ200357279795QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Lenses?hash=item2ea6397833&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I'd love to have a 28 f/1.4, but those prices are absurd. What did those things cost new? Of course, at the time I looked they also had no bidders. Notice the first one is 10% off - what a deal!

Man, Nikon could put a stop to this if they would just release an AF-S version of this lens that met or exceeded that one. Or maybe Nikon is fine with this type of price gouging - Lord knows they do enough of it on their own. (Anyone check out the price of a new F6 lately?)

David



None of those have bids, and the 28mm 1.4 went nuts without ebay's help.



camerapapi
Registered: Oct 15, 2002
Total Posts: 4132
Country: United States

A good example of people who do not know what they are doing. It is insane to pay $400 for a 28mm f2.8 Nikkor AIS.
The most ridiculous biddings I have seen have to be those in Ebay. I agree with the gentleman that stated that these are usually individuals without good rating or newbies in bidding wars. The majority of the times the bidding winner simply ignores the auction and does not pay.
Ebay, in my opinion, would be the last place where I would look to get a used camera or lens.

William Rodriguez
Miami, Florida.



louis fusco
Registered: Nov 18, 2005
Total Posts: 3930
Country: Ireland

Avi B wrote:
TXwes wrote:
I have a rare tulip for sale if anyone is interested.


I bid 1000....

(pssst what's a tulip?)



http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/boom-and-bust-the-roots-of-wall-streets-casino-culture/



Robert Spencer
Registered: Jan 22, 2007
Total Posts: 874
Country: United States

One thing that has always bothered me about ebay is know that winning an auction ( or buy now) means that I was willing to pay more than anyone in the world to get that item! Its hard to come away feeling bright about that kind of purchase. My two cents. Take care. Bob



globalkiwi
Registered: Jul 02, 2008
Total Posts: 1912
Country: United States

There are good things to be had on eBay but you do have to know how the system works & be knowledgeable about the item you are buying. Just as there are people who will let themselves be drawn into expensive bidding wars, there are sellers who either time or price their auctions poorly & consequently let things go for less than they're worth.



Elan II
Registered: Oct 08, 2005
Total Posts: 486
Country: United States

I don't mean to create the wrong impression. I actually find ebay to be very useful and generally safe. I have several rare old lenses that even on ebay only come up a few times a year. Without ebay, there would be none for me to find.

What I see happening a lot is a temporary surge in the price of a particular lens because of a very favorable post at one of the larger photo forums. If I go to a DP Review forum right now and post a glowing review of a particular lens, with a few really nice images, ebay prices can jump as much as 50% for a couple of weeks. Especially if this is a lesser known lens that doesn't usually fetch a premium price. I think photographers as a group are pretty impulsive, where ebay is better suited for cool heads.




NightOwl Cat
Registered: Feb 19, 2007
Total Posts: 2064
Country: N/A

I will admit to purchasing something photography related on ebay, the SC-19's I got a couple months ago. Came as a package of two, and got 'em for $25 plus S&H. My other used purchases have been the B&S here, from CL, NGS, or one other forum.



sask
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Total Posts: 90
Country: Canada

Sometimes those really high bids are from scammers. They don't care what they are paying for an item when it is not their money they are spending (high jacked paypal account). I just recently sold a Canon 100-400 on ebay and the high bidder payed $80 over what you could pick up a new one for. They were willing to pay me immediately by paypal but then asked that I ship it to Muldova but their account address was a US address. I had checked the winning bidders feedback and it was 900+ all positive BUT they had been inactive for a while then all of a sudden in two days bought 2 Nikon D300's a laptop and my Canon lens. All previous transactions had been mostly selling golf equipment. It was obviously a scam and was reported immediatly and everything has now been taken care of. I had contacted one of the sellers of one of the D300's and they guy had paid right away by paypal but then a freeze was put on his account due to a fraud investigation. I don't think he had sent the camera out though so he was not out anything.



globalkiwi
Registered: Jul 02, 2008
Total Posts: 1912
Country: United States

You really do have to be careful on eBay - especially with high value items. I think the changes they made to the feedback system have rendered it pretty useless as an indicator of trust-worthiness. Personally, however, I have had far worse experiences on craigslist (which I will no longer use). There's something about the total anonominity of it that really brings out the worst in people.



jay tieger
Registered: Oct 11, 2006
Total Posts: 971
Country: United States

I've had more than one buyer in each of the past few months have the wrong address or an unconfirmed address in PayPal and refunded their money until they reestablished their profile with the corrected/confirmed address...I indicate in my listings that I will ship only to a confirmed address.



tuannie
Registered: Apr 10, 2004
Total Posts: 4919
Country: United States

Max Power wrote:
eaglewolf wrote:
Yeah, but check these out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-AF-Nikkor-28mm-f-1-4-28-1-4-D_W0QQitemZ160343124055QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Lenses?hash=item255531e857&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-Nikkor-28mm-f-1-4-Lens-1-4-afd-MINT-USA_W0QQitemZ200357279795QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Lenses?hash=item2ea6397833&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I'd love to have a 28 f/1.4, but those prices are absurd. What did those things cost new? Of course, at the time I looked they also had no bidders. Notice the first one is 10% off - what a deal!

Man, Nikon could put a stop to this if they would just release an AF-S version of this lens that met or exceeded that one. Or maybe Nikon is fine with this type of price gouging - Lord knows they do enough of it on their own. (Anyone check out the price of a new F6 lately?)

David



None of those have bids, and the 28mm 1.4 went nuts without ebay's help.


I wonder what the owners are going to do to these when Nikon finally announce the replacement. Whatever it is...I don't think it will be 3.5-4K for the new replacement. Ridiculous!

Tuan



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