Woe is me vs. I'm lucky
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Andre Labonte
Registered: Dec 21, 2005
Total Posts: 7483
Country: United States

NAS has it's constant pull, as any form of greed always does. It seems my list of wants is always longer than what I have.

Have:
D300, 17-55 DX, 50 f/1.8, 70-200 VR, 1.7 TC, SB-800, Gitzo 1228 tripod, Gitzo 3550 monopod, Kenco tubes, & lots of filters, cards, batteries, etc.

Want:
2nd body, 10-24 DX, updated 200mm micro, updated 300mm f/4 VR, 1.4TC, SB-900, Gitzo 3541XLS, light stands & umbrellas.

Strech goals:
300 f/2.8 VR, 24 PM, 10.5 fish

But then I think to myself, would all of this stuff improve my pictures? Would my enjoyment of photography be any greater? Or would all the extra stuff burden me down and force me to leave things behind due to weight?

Then I think about how lucky I am to have what I do have, over $5K of stuff when most have only a P&S. How I have a family to take pictures of and a nice home to live in with lots of kids and a job to support it all. Do I need any more than I have or is it just being greedy?



gman1339
Registered: Jul 17, 2006
Total Posts: 1901
Country: United States

When you get the 300 f/2.8 VR you learn to dump other stuff if you want to save weight.



Sambru
Registered: Jun 07, 2007
Total Posts: 499
Country: Canada

I am in the same boat, I have a D300, D200 & a ton of glass. Yet I want more. I have been able to control NAS so far. but it's been hard. I have to do a reality check once in awhile



Chris Noyes
Registered: Jun 23, 2007
Total Posts: 584
Country: United States

Andre, you are a fortunate man indeed. Me too. All this stuff means NOTHING without the family first. Sure it's nice to have the gear to capture things the way you "see" them in your minds' eye, but it's not as if you can't do things within the constraints of what you already have (which is exceptional, to say the least).

With the gear I've collected in just a few years, I've had to make some hard decisions on what gear to drag along with me, because I simply can't carry it all. But those decisions you get to make AFTER you have the gear.



Kerry Pierce
Registered: Feb 01, 2004
Total Posts: 2727
Country: United States

There's never enuff, Andre.

I have a ton of bodies and lenses. I have little interest in selling old stuff for some reason, but I do enjoy using my "exotic" seldom used lenses once in a while. But, being retired with no kids, I don't have to worry about a lot of the stuff that you do. I still like to take assignments once in a while, but mostly I just shoot for fun or for friends. I really don't need any of this stuff, but I think it's better spent than hanging out in bars and pouring money down the drain.



Gregory.Rotter
Registered: Oct 13, 2008
Total Posts: 898
Country: Greece

Kerry Pierce wrote:
but I think it's better spent than hanging out in bars and pouring money down the drain.



My sentiments exactly.



eaglewolf
Registered: Jan 15, 2006
Total Posts: 2426
Country: United States

I'm trying to think of what Nikon makes that I don't want!

I don't think you get to a point where you don't want anything more if you are susceptible to "NAS" in the first place. I look at what I have and think:

"You know, a second D300 and D700 would sure help in certain situations.

I have a hole between 300mm and 600mm - maybe I should think about a 400 f/2.8 VR or 500 f/4 VR.

I don't have any PC-E lenses - I might be able to use one of those0.

The 14-24 would help me go wider on my FX body (or bodies if the first item was met.)

The D3 would allow me to shoot faster.

The D3X would give me more resolution.

The D90 would be a good camera to get my wife into digital.

I'd really like that 200mm micro lens.

I'd really like the 200 f/2.

I'd really like that 300 f/2.8 for those times when an f/4 lens isn't enough.

A 600 f/4 with VR would really help my long lens shots when I'm not quite steady enough for my non-VR version. That newer glass would really shine.

Maybe that SB-900 would be a nice addition to the flash department. My SB-800 is getting a little long in the tooth..."

Dang, I'm glad I'm not greedy or this list would be really long...

Then I think about how much I really do have and how many people would be ecstatic to have my kit, and the brakes get put on. (Actually, finances and my wife have more to do with that, but I was trying to make myself sound a little bit less materialistic!) Add in that photography isn't my only expensive hobby, and this gets pushed even further back. I probably have more gear than many here on this forum, though obviously not as much as some.

Not one piece of gear that I have made me a better photographer, but I think you already know that. Practice and learning from my mistakes, as well as heeding advice offered at places like here, has done more than any of the gear ever did. Some items do allow obtaining shots I otherwise couldn't, but if I was a lousy (or great) photographer before buying something, I will be after the purchase as well.

I will say that the more gear I have, the more that gets left behind when I go shooting. You can only carry so much, or are only willing to. Besides, the more you have, the more you will want. I remember being satisfied with a Kodak cartidge camera years ago, and I had a blast using it. I didn't know what a 600mm f/whatever was and didn't care. Now I want it all. The more I buy pro-level gear the more I want it. That's the curse of capitalism, if you let it overtake you (wherever you might be along the line.)

Be happy with your kit, add things you can afford as you can. In the long run, you will likely be much happier. Life is certainly about more than the things we have, or at least it should be.

David



Makten
Registered: Jul 14, 2008
Total Posts: 916
Country: Sweden

Andre Labonte wrote:
But then I think to myself, would all of this stuff improve my pictures? Would my enjoyment of photography be any greater? Or would all the extra stuff burden me down and force me to leave things behind due to weight?


Probably yes and no. Leaving things behind for the moment isn't necessarily a bad thing.



gugs
Registered: Apr 16, 2005
Total Posts: 6255
Country: Belgium

You really have to think of what you want to reach (outside just collecting equipment).
Maybe you could improve your skills with your current gear. If you feel limitations, you are the best person to determine what you need. You really have an excellent kit.

I own much too much equipment, and I see that I almost always use the same things when I am on assignment: D3/D2x, 24-70 35%, 70-200VR 35%, 200-400% 15%, 105VR 10%, others 5% (14-24, fisheye, primes: 35, 50, 85).

Your D300 17-55 70-200VR combo is a dream for many photographers and covers most of the useful classical range...

Good luck with your final decision.

Guy



Andre Labonte
Registered: Dec 21, 2005
Total Posts: 7483
Country: United States

Chris Noyes wrote:
Andre, you are a fortunate man indeed. Me too. All this stuff means NOTHING without the family first. Sure it's nice to have the gear to capture things the way you "see" them in your minds' eye, but it's not as if you can't do things within the constraints of what you already have (which is exceptional, to say the least).

With the gear I've collected in just a few years, I've had to make some hard decisions on what gear to drag along with me, because I simply can't carry it all. But those decisions you get to make AFTER you have the gear.



I guess that's just it, with the family I can't afford what I want but without the family, 90% of what I photograph would be missing! In fact the only reason a 300mm f/2.8 is on my list is for the kids sports. Such is life.



Andre Labonte
Registered: Dec 21, 2005
Total Posts: 7483
Country: United States

Kerry Pierce wrote:
There's never enuff, Andre.

I have a ton of bodies and lenses. I have little interest in selling old stuff for some reason, but I do enjoy using my "exotic" seldom used lenses once in a while. But, being retired with no kids, I don't have to worry about a lot of the stuff that you do. I still like to take assignments once in a while, but mostly I just shoot for fun or for friends. I really don't need any of this stuff, but I think it's better spent than hanging out in bars and pouring money down the drain.




No doupt! I'm not much of a drinker anyway. I think the 24PC will be a retierment present to myself ... only 29 years to go!



Andre Labonte
Registered: Dec 21, 2005
Total Posts: 7483
Country: United States

eaglewolf wrote:
I'm trying to think of what Nikon makes that I don't want!

I don't think you get to a point where you don't want anything more if you are susceptible to "NAS" in the first place. I look at what I have and think:

"You know, a second D300 and D700 would sure help in certain situations.

I have a hole between 300mm and 600mm - maybe I should think about a 400 f/2.8 VR or 500 f/4 VR.

I don't have any PC-E lenses - I might be able to use one of those0.

The 14-24 would help me go wider on my FX body (or bodies if the first item was met.)

The D3 would allow me to shoot faster.

The D3X would give me more resolution.

The D90 would be a good camera to get my wife into digital.

I'd really like that 200mm micro lens.

I'd really like the 200 f/2.

I'd really like that 300 f/2.8 for those times when an f/4 lens isn't enough.

A 600 f/4 with VR would really help my long lens shots when I'm not quite steady enough for my non-VR version. That newer glass would really shine.

Maybe that SB-900 would be a nice addition to the flash department. My SB-800 is getting a little long in the tooth..."

Dang, I'm glad I'm not greedy or this list would be really long...

Then I think about how much I really do have and how many people would be ecstatic to have my kit, and the brakes get put on. (Actually, finances and my wife have more to do with that, but I was trying to make myself sound a little bit less materialistic!) Add in that photography isn't my only expensive hobby, and this gets pushed even further back. I probably have more gear than many here on this forum, though obviously not as much as some.

Not one piece of gear that I have made me a better photographer, but I think you already know that. Practice and learning from my mistakes, as well as heeding advice offered at places like here, has done more than any of the gear ever did. Some items do allow obtaining shots I otherwise couldn't, but if I was a lousy (or great) photographer before buying something, I will be after the purchase as well.

I will say that the more gear I have, the more that gets left behind when I go shooting. You can only carry so much, or are only willing to. Besides, the more you have, the more you will want. I remember being satisfied with a Kodak cartidge camera years ago, and I had a blast using it. I didn't know what a 600mm f/whatever was and didn't care. Now I want it all. The more I buy pro-level gear the more I want it. That's the curse of capitalism, if you let it overtake you (wherever you might be along the line.)

Be happy with your kit, add things you can afford as you can. In the long run, you will likely be much happier. Life is certainly about more than the things we have, or at least it should be.

David


Thanks David ... well in that case I can say the first 4 things on the list are the 10-24, the SB900, a heavier tripod and the light stand. All adds up to about $2200 ... not too bad over the next few years.



Andre Labonte
Registered: Dec 21, 2005
Total Posts: 7483
Country: United States

Makten wrote:
Andre Labonte wrote:
But then I think to myself, would all of this stuff improve my pictures? Would my enjoyment of photography be any greater? Or would all the extra stuff burden me down and force me to leave things behind due to weight?


Probably yes and no. Leaving things behind for the moment isn't necessarily a bad thing.



But I do it aleady!!!!



Andre Labonte
Registered: Dec 21, 2005
Total Posts: 7483
Country: United States

gugs wrote:
You really have to think of what you want to reach (outside just collecting equipment).
Maybe you could improve your skills with your current gear. If you feel limitations, you are the best person to determine what you need. You really have an excellent kit.

I own much too much equipment, and I see that I almost always use the same things when I am on assignment: D3/D2x, 24-70 35%, 70-200VR 35%, 200-400% 15%, 105VR 10%, others 5% (14-24, fisheye, primes: 35, 50, 85).

Your D300 17-55 70-200VR combo is a dream for many photographers and covers most of the useful classical range...

Good luck with your final decision.

Guy


What I want to reach is being a damb good photo with what I need for 95% of most situations. I guess my current kit does that ... the flash w/ stands and the WA are what I feel pain for not having, the rest is frosting.

Now you have one sweet setup! Of course you end up using your equipment for a lot of your work, which makes spending the money on it all that much easier. I think part of my fussing is I have a bad case of NAS right now and no money to quell it with. Just one lens, that's all I need to quell it ... for now!



BluePixel
Registered: May 21, 2008
Total Posts: 1016
Country: United States

I think you are greedy.
Just like me.
As soon as i got D700 after D300, i want D800.



NightOwl Cat
Registered: Feb 19, 2007
Total Posts: 2064
Country: N/A

Join the po' folks club Andre.. I'm glad I got what I got, when I had the spare cash, everything's on hold now till I see what's going to happen in the next year or so, but I won't be selling anything, that's for sure. I have bought a couple things this year, a couple of SC-19 cords, the Tokina 17mm (MF), a couple bags, but I haven't spent more than $200 on gear this year. Funny thing today I was asked just how many cameras did I have, anyhow..

Andre Labonte wrote: I think part of my fussing is I have a bad case of NAS right now and no money to quell it with. Just one lens, that's all I need to quell it ... for now!



monochrome
Registered: Aug 24, 2007
Total Posts: 1992
Country: United States

After selling off all of my Canon gear last Oct, I realized I had too much stuff. I'm pretty happy where I sit know with my Nikon gear, other than another body, there are no lenses that I feel I must get. With Canon I felt I needed the "L" primes, don't feel that way with Nikon, I love the zooms. Though I won't mind getting a PC-E and maybe a 200mm macro. But it's not killing me to do so.



trevorlane
Registered: Apr 04, 2003
Total Posts: 180
Country: United States

Yep,
carrying around the D3/300 2.8 VR and a 50 1.4 in the pocket. I can't lug anything else around at this point.



Mike Mohrmann
Registered: Apr 13, 2007
Total Posts: 163
Country: United States

Andre Labonte wrote:
I guess that's just it, with the family I can't afford what I want but without the family, 90% of what I photograph would be missing! In fact the only reason a 300mm f/2.8 is on my list is for the kids sports. Such is life.


Kids sports -> the only reason why I am purchasing the 70-200/2.8 VR.



luminosity
Registered: May 03, 2009
Total Posts: 866
Country: United States

I'm feeling woe is me lately, mainly because my D300 is dead and in Nikon's hands right now, and I don't expect to get it back until the end of July. My 17-55 sits unused, just a couple months after buying it.



Gregory.Rotter
Registered: Oct 13, 2008
Total Posts: 898
Country: Greece

Buy a D40 till then



mikesrc
Registered: May 02, 2009
Total Posts: 26
Country: United States

I'm really feeling woe is me. I down to a D200, 24-70 2.8 and a 18-200. I'm waiting until the next DX body comes out.



Avi B
Registered: Dec 07, 2006
Total Posts: 4813
Country: Canada

Gregory.Rotter wrote:
Buy a D40 till then


+1.


Now Andre, I would say that you should stretch it out and get a 300 2.8 (even a non-VR version) for your kids sports Appears to be a superb piece of glass...



Andre Labonte
Registered: Dec 21, 2005
Total Posts: 7483
Country: United States

Avi B wrote:
Gregory.Rotter wrote:
Buy a D40 till then


+1.


Now Andre, I would say that you should stretch it out and get a 300 2.8 (even a non-VR version) for your kids sports Appears to be a superb piece of glass...



You must have been reading my mind (or using a Jedi mind trick), I just got of KEH looking at the non-VR version of the AFS. Yea, only $3K instead of $5K. But if I buy that right now after buying a truck, my wife will do much worse than .

I did another stupid thing today, at lunch I stopped by the camrea store and checked out the 10-24DX. What a nice little lens and not nearly as big as I expected. Takes filters, and is it WIDE. I could have used that already this spring. But I did find something wrong with it!!! The zoom and focus ring are reversed (bad Nikon, bad ) So that is my "excuse" for holding off right now



Andre Labonte
Registered: Dec 21, 2005
Total Posts: 7483
Country: United States

monochrome wrote:
After selling off all of my Canon gear last Oct, I realized I had too much stuff. I'm pretty happy where I sit know with my Nikon gear, other than another body, there are no lenses that I feel I must get. With Canon I felt I needed the "L" primes, don't feel that way with Nikon, I love the zooms. Though I won't mind getting a PC-E and maybe a 200mm macro. But it's not killing me to do so.



With that line-up of gear, I'd be feeling happy too! Nice list in that sig.



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