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CarminaF Registered: Aug 01, 2007 Total Posts: 1373 Country: Canada |
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Pandacat Registered: Feb 02, 2005 Total Posts: 1113 Country: United States |
A shot like this just HAPPENS. You don't make it, you can't plan for it, it just happens. And if you're lucky enough to see it and if you're lucky enough to push the button in time, then you just might catch a glimpse like this. Then you make do with what you've got. Photoshop the hell out of it if you have too, because it's all you'll ever have. When a moment like this passes, it's gone forever. |
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jamesD90 Registered: Feb 26, 2009 Total Posts: 48 Country: United States |
the crop itself does make the picture come together so much more....if you want the actual RAW file let me know |
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Brad Alexander Registered: Jan 10, 2003 Total Posts: 550 Country: United States |
Are you kidding me? James, dude, it's a snap shot that anyone could have pulled the trigger and done, even my 6 year old for that matter. |
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Pandacat Registered: Feb 02, 2005 Total Posts: 1113 Country: United States |
Brad, you are absolutly right! James is a six year old with a P&S and he got this snap. Now, it's pretty cute but like Carla says "an awkward snapshot with some technical issues." Lots and Lots of technical issues! |
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jamesD90 Registered: Feb 26, 2009 Total Posts: 48 Country: United States |
To the both previous posts: Who the hell are you to insult me? It is people like you who ruin a post and make people on here not even want to try and be a beginner photographer. Even the grump Pilles had something constructive to say. If you don't like my photo fine but do not insult my age and or intelligence. For I am still learning and asked for constructive criticism not insults. |
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Brad Alexander Registered: Jan 10, 2003 Total Posts: 550 Country: United States |
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Cableaddict Registered: Jun 10, 2008 Total Posts: 3704 Country: United States |
James, you captured a great moment. Don't let the anal retentive posters get you down. They probably take lots of technically perfect shots of boring things. |
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Cableaddict Registered: Jun 10, 2008 Total Posts: 3704 Country: United States |
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Cableaddict Registered: Jun 10, 2008 Total Posts: 3704 Country: United States |
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jamesD90 Registered: Feb 26, 2009 Total Posts: 48 Country: United States |
Brad, |
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Pandacat Registered: Feb 02, 2005 Total Posts: 1113 Country: United States |
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cgardner Registered: Nov 18, 2002 Total Posts: 7929 Country: United States |
Its a cute shot that tells a story: little boy offers pretty girl some cake. In the original version the story is getting diluted but the distractions of the over lit shoulder of the woman and all the stuff on the table in the background. ![]() As for the lighting, a better way to deal with a situation like that is either to bounce the light up off the ceiling (if there is one) or if time permits use two flashes. The problem with direct flash is that exposure is only correct at one distance from the light source. So its physically impossible to correctly expose the kid's face without blowing out the closer shoulder of the woman. When the light is bounced, the source of the light becomes the point on the ceiling where the light hits and reflects, which would be equal in distance from both the boy and the woman. Using two flashes in that type of candid situation is feasible if the off camera flash is made portable via a wheeled stand. I've been shooting candid shots with hotshoe flash that way since the early 1970s. ![]() The shot above was taken by doing what I suggested above: bouncing most of the light on camera up off the ceiling with a smaller amount bounced forward off the foam diffusers I use. My second flash was up on the stage just out of frame on the left, mainly to make the guy on the stage the focal point, but it also added a nice rim light component to the figure in the foreground. ![]() Another candid two flash shot where I simply parked the off camera flash in the corner and bounced it off the ceiling. In that instance bouncing the "key" light off the ceiling was necessary because people where standing around blocking the direct path of the light. ![]() The shot above is similar to yours in how something in the foreground is used to frame the subject in the background. When I saw the guest of honor at the going away party would likely be standing there talking for a few moments I saw the opportunity to wheel my off camera flash around behind to the left to short-light his face and use the people in front to frame him. The guy in the foreground actually served as a "flag" to hide the off camera flash. By using two flashes that way I was able to independently control the light on my main subject in the middle and the fill on the figures in the foreground separately avoiding the burned out foreground look of a single flash on camera shot. So while its a great candid capture based on content alone, there are several ways the delivery of the story could be improved by editing the scene via cropping and improving the lighting so there was more emphasis on the boy and less on the woman, who in this case is necessary for context -- explaining the action of the boy - but not really shown in any identifiable or flattering way. We mainly see the back of her ear so the less of her we see the more attention gets focused on the boy. Chuck |
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Pandacat Registered: Feb 02, 2005 Total Posts: 1113 Country: United States |
Thank you Chuck for you input on this shot. This is the kind of instruction that both James and I need. |
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jamesD90 Registered: Feb 26, 2009 Total Posts: 48 Country: United States |
That was one of the most well thought out and brilliantly put posts I have ever seen on here. Thank you very much Chuck for your insight. I think I might research some of your other posts and see what else you have to say. Again great post and thank you for the valuable information. |
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Brad Alexander Registered: Jan 10, 2003 Total Posts: 550 Country: United States |
If people like you were not so blinded by your sensitivity, you'd see that there is help in my words. It may not be the brand of help most use or understand, but oh well, it's my help nonetheless. So quit crying and do something about your photography. Again, you asked what I thought, and I told you. Next time don't give such an open invitation. |
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jamesD90 Registered: Feb 26, 2009 Total Posts: 48 Country: United States |
Good enough it is way to good of a friday to be all in a pissy mood I am out /thread |