E-P1 is plastic!
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Tariq Gibran
Registered: Oct 01, 2006
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Probably not a big deal but just about every single review on this camera goes out of its way to make a big deal about its metal construction. For instance, The very first page of the E-P1 preview at Dpreview is both misleading and in error in stating that the camera has all metal construction:

"Not that we're complaining; for years now we've been imploring every manufacturer who would listen to us to build a non-reflex interchangeable lens camera around a large sensor, and the E-P1's styling (and all metal construction) harks back to the glory days of the mechanical camera in the 60's and 70's, when men were men and cameras were built like swiss watches (a design trend started by Panasonic with cameras like the LC-1 and LX series, if truth be told)."

Here is how the camera is constructed - metal body panels only, all plastic structure.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=32207680

What bothers me most about this is not the use of plastic in the camera but the poor journalism, false promotion. I really thought this camera had a stainless steel construction by everything written.



h_rearden
Registered: Apr 21, 2009
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Something tells me Olympus did the research and found that their plastic/composite has plenty of strength to hold things together, while reducing the weight of the camera. I doubt they anticipate people mounting big, heavy lenses on it. The metal body panels, if secured in an intelligent way, will likely bolster the strength as well and provides that nice, solid, cold feeling.

I agree that the journalism/promotion is misleading, but I don't see it as a show-stopper.



dasrocket
Registered: Jul 13, 2006
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Unless you open the actual body, you can't tell the fabrication material; sure they said it was metal, but I am sure they also thought the same.

I don't see the big deal with the construction: The plastic-fantastic will certainly last as well as the metal core, and I welcome the lighter weight personally. The exterior is where the real beating will occur, and that is metal from what I understand.



Tariq Gibran
Registered: Oct 01, 2006
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No big deal with the construction as far as I'm concerned, just that it has been misrepresented.



lou f
Registered: Nov 18, 2005
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that's very nice plastic construction too.



cgiff
Registered: Jul 29, 2008
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dasrocket wrote:
Unless you open the actual body, you can't tell the fabrication material; sure they said it was metal, but I am sure they also thought the same.



Agreed, I'm sure journalists/bloggers thought that it was all-metal... not that it was responsible of them to say so, but I really doubt it was intentionally misleading.

It doesn't really bother me so much. As long as it can handle knocking around during commutes it's fine, actually better due to weight. As long as it's durable who cares? If they start crumbling I'll start complaining.



brainiac
Registered: Nov 22, 2005
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What a relief! It really will be an M8 beater then. I was worried it was going to be another brick ;-)



thrice
Registered: Jul 10, 2008
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for god's sake richard give it a break!



alexandre
Registered: Jun 30, 2005
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brainiac wrote:
What a relief! It really will be an M8 beater then. I was worried it was going to be another brick ;-)


ROFLMAO

Richard is for Leica what ISO1600 is for Canon.



Leon Noel
Registered: Dec 26, 2007
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brainiac wrote:
What a relief! It really will be an M8 beater then. I was worried it was going to be another brick ;-)


Made my day! xD



ulrikft
Registered: Apr 17, 2008
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But it doesen't have a VF :/



h_rearden
Registered: Apr 21, 2009
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ulrikft wrote:
But it doesen't have a VF :/


I was really hoping for a super-high-res EVF when the rumor was first leaked.



Makten
Registered: Jul 14, 2008
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Country: Sweden

thrice wrote:
for god's sake richard give it a break!


Well, he's right. The M8 is quite a brick. Not that small that you'd like to think if you haven't held it.



thrice
Registered: Jul 10, 2008
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I have, and I have an M6, I noticed my 350D more when I had it.

The way richard finds excuses to unproductively attack leica though, you'd think they killed his family.



Makten
Registered: Jul 14, 2008
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thrice wrote:
I have, and I have an M6, I noticed my 350D more when I had it.

The way richard finds excuses to unproductively attack leica though, you'd think they killed his family.


I suppose it was written with a twinkle in his eye. Anyway, it's not a very small and light camera. But still very nice.



Tariq Gibran
Registered: Oct 01, 2006
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Country: United States

You know, the funny thing is that I have read reviews of the E-P1 where much is made about how heavy it feels for its size. Of course, that then is attributed to it's all metal construction.



dasrocket
Registered: Jul 13, 2006
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thrice wrote:
for god's sake richard give it a break!


Don't worry Thrice, Brainiac is not going to get one: He can't use it at 12,800, f.1.4



Savarin
Registered: Mar 11, 2008
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dasrocket wrote:
thrice wrote:
for god's sake richard give it a break!


Don't worry Thrice, Brainiac is not going to get one: He can't use it at 12,800, f.1.4




You guys kill me.. Can't wait for the next page. I love my M8 and my 5dII. They are so different in process up to exposure point that the photos are just different. I feel the photo in Leica mode and shoot for consistency in Canon mode. I print more of my Leica shots for my own walls. I get paid with my Canon shots.

I think you earn the photo with the Leica. It is a joy to use.



brainiac
Registered: Nov 22, 2005
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Sorry to pollute the thread. It was meant to be a joke and a relief from all that heavy discussion.



alexandre
Registered: Jun 30, 2005
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Country: Brazil

Savarin wrote:
dasrocket wrote:
thrice wrote:
for god's sake richard give it a break!


Don't worry Thrice, Brainiac is not going to get one: He can't use it at 12,800, f.1.4




You guys kill me.. Can't wait for the next page. I love my M8 and my 5dII. They are so different in process up to exposure point that the photos are just different. I feel the photo in Leica mode and shoot for consistency in Canon mode. I print more of my Leica shots for my own walls. I get paid with my Canon shots.

I think you earn the photo with the Leica. It is a joy to use.


I feel the same for my 1D classsic and my OM-1, but the XSi sees more use when the light is not that well-controlled.



UCSB
Registered: Jan 10, 2006
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The E-P1's construction is appropriate for the other elements of the system ... just take a closer look at the 14-42mm kit lens or 17mm kit lens. Do they look like something requiring a metal body?



Tariq Gibran
Registered: Oct 01, 2006
Total Posts: 5849
Country: United States

UCSB wrote:
The E-P1's construction is appropriate for the other elements of the system ... just take a closer look at the 14-42mm kit lens or 17mm kit lens. Do they look like something requiring a metal body?


Well, Olympus does make a big deal about compatibility with both the standard 4/3rds system lenses and some of those are fairly large/heavy, enough so that a proper metal lens mount on the E-P1 would have been desirable. The "system", according to Olympus is larger than just those two lenses. Olympus even makes an OM lens adapter, so add those lenses to the system as well.



alexandre
Registered: Jun 30, 2005
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Come on, Zuikos ain't that huge



Tariq Gibran
Registered: Oct 01, 2006
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alexandre wrote:
Come on, Zuikos ain't that huge


Some can be heavy relative to a tiny body like the E-P1 and would put a strain on a weak lens mount. They are often larger than you might expect given the format. For instance, the SWD 12-60, a lens I once owned and one that I'm sure will find its way onto someone's E-P1, weighs over a pound. That might not sound like much, but add the adapter and your looking at putting some strain on the lens mount. Plenty of 4/3rds users will be putting their glass on the E-P1 and some of these lenses can be quite heavy. The 7-14 is close to 2 pounds. Just something to keep in mind as these lenses are fully compatible and promoted by Olympus for use on the E-P1.



Pixel Perfect
Registered: Aug 16, 2004
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hey the EOS 3 was polycarbonate and I don't remember that being considered inferior. It would survive knocks that would damage a metal 1V sometimes. A lot more impact resistant than the metal alloy.



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