Elinchrom Quadra - got it yet?
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Carmen Miranda
Registered: Dec 22, 2006
Total Posts: 1879
Country: United States

PShizzy wrote:
Now if only I could fit an Octa in that backpack.......
Max


Max, the Octa ain't all that heavy, it's the C-stand and sand bag that'll kill ya.

PShizzy wrote:What more could they stuff into this little pack?
Max


Definitely, NOT your grandfather's Norman 400B.

Good luck.



PShizzy
Registered: Mar 07, 2004
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Country: United States

Oh I know the Octa isn't heavy. But I really meant what I said.. I want to fit it IN a backpack. Ministands are about a foot and a half when down. The right modifier would fit in there as well, along with a basic kit.

I guess I could put it all in a roller, but then that's a whole different size level. I wanna see what would be possible to take on a plane without checking in anything.

Max



martin.egger
Registered: Jul 24, 2002
Total Posts: 57
Country: Switzerland

My 'Ranger Quadra To Go Case Set A' has just arrived

I will have no time for a serious testing right now, as I a leaving for holiday on Friday ... bad timing, I know.



rudiphoto
Registered: Jun 10, 2002
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Tease!



el_hoppy
Registered: Feb 09, 2006
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Country: Sweden

rudiphoto wrote:
Tease!

+1



roanjohnnyc
Registered: Feb 28, 2004
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Country: United States

martin.egger wrote:
My 'Ranger Quadra To Go Case Set A' has just arrived

I will have no time for a serious testing right now, as I a leaving for holiday on Friday ... bad timing, I know.


Unboxing pics??



jmi25
Registered: May 05, 2009
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Country: United States

Carmen Miranda wrote:
Max, the Octa ain't all that heavy, it's the C-stand and sand bag that'll kill ya.


Oh boy yes, last time I bought a C-stand I carried it all the way home from the store, about 2 miles. I got as far as the subway and thought "well what the hey I've made it this far"... Not doing that again in a hurry.

Also to the poster above who mentioned 1/4000 - you will probably need to check with Elinchrom whether it'll sync that fast - if I recall the skyports are only specified to go to 1/250, and some of their lights are specified similarly although I have not asked them if this is still the case operating corded. I shoot a lot of medium format so I always have to careful about this issue.

Of course you will also be clipping exposure (even on the action head) so make sure your meter takes this into account, or adjust by chimping.



PShizzy
Registered: Mar 07, 2004
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Country: United States

jm, you're right. 1/4000th is reserved for the speedlites.

Skyports sync at 1/250th, really? That kinda sucks. Multimax units can do 1/1000th, so I can go with that.. or stick with cable connect. But that's only in heavy sunlight. Any other time, 400ws should do just fine.

I usually do tests to figure out my latitude as far as power output at higher sync speeds.

Thanks for the heads up, I appreciate the info.

Max



rudiphoto
Registered: Jun 10, 2002
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Country: Australia

Why doesn't anyone check the manufacturer's website any more? The Skyport will sync up to 1/1000th as well. See here: www.elinchrom.com



PShizzy
Registered: Mar 07, 2004
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rudi, I have checked the elinchrom website in the past. I find it a bit difficult in general. some specs links point to a pdf, others to a promo page.

Anyhow, 1/1000th sounds flav! Now I just need to find the coin for the Quadra.

Max



rudiphoto
Registered: Jun 10, 2002
Total Posts: 3491
Country: Australia

On that I agree with you - I hate the way some people make their Flash websites so unfriendly it actually turns you off them...



evertdoorn
Registered: Feb 29, 2008
Total Posts: 609
Country: Netherlands

Saw it today in real life, what a tiny and light package...amazing!

I didn't get it - yet - but I did get the new grid for the 70cm x 70 cm softbox



roanjohnnyc
Registered: Feb 28, 2004
Total Posts: 564
Country: United States

evertdoorn wrote:

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I didn't get it - yet - ......


YET?? So you will be getting it in the future??

This drip drip information is killing me!!! I want somebody to do a real world review that shows the pros and cons of this product.

........Although I am pretty much 99.9% sure I'm gonna get it once it hits the states.

So.........anybody else in this forum got one? A mini-review maybe? Something to tie me over before it arrives...........



tonghc
Registered: Jan 14, 2003
Total Posts: 93
Country: United Kingdom

I walked into the TFC and bought one today, didn't have a chance to play with it in details. If you are looking for review google British Photographic Journal

I think will be using it more often then the Ranger RX speed AS. The weight is amazing, when you charge the battery make sure the 20A fuse is connected. I spent 10mins figuring out why the battery is not charging.



roanjohnnyc
Registered: Feb 28, 2004
Total Posts: 564
Country: United States

tonghc wrote:
I walked into the TFC and bought one today, didn't have a chance to play with it in details. If you are looking for review google British Photographic Journal

I think will be using it more often then the Ranger RX speed AS. The weight is amazing, when you charge the battery make sure the 20A fuse is connected. I spent 10mins figuring out why the battery is not charging.



...... I already linked that article on the 2nd page of this thread

In any case......can you use the battery while it's plugged and charging?

Thanks!!



Carmen Miranda
Registered: Dec 22, 2006
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Country: United States

Or at least can you charge the extra battery separately while the main is in use like with the Ranger RX batts?

Ditto thanks!



roanjohnnyc
Registered: Feb 28, 2004
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Country: United States

Carmen Miranda wrote:
Or at least can you charge the extra battery separately while the main is in use like with the Ranger RX batts?

Ditto thanks!


I thought of that since I will be getting the kit for sure. However, there might be days when I will not be in the mood of carrying the extra battery......unless of course it is really tiny. I heard somebody say that you can keep the ranger plugged in but can't sync via Skyport while in the studio....but since the skyport is built in the quadra, I figure you can keep synching while its charging.



el_hoppy
Registered: Feb 09, 2006
Total Posts: 969
Country: Sweden

Carmen Miranda wrote:
Or at least can you charge the extra battery separately while the main is in use like with the Ranger RX batts?

Ditto thanks!

Based on this photo I would be 100% certain that it is a yes.

It also makes it likely you could charge it whilst shooting as well.



This image is copyrighted by the owner




martin.egger
Registered: Jul 24, 2002
Total Posts: 57
Country: Switzerland

tonghc wrote:
In any case......can you use the battery while it's plugged and charging?


Yes, no problem. As stated in the manual, the charging time will be somewhat longer when you are using the battery while charging.

Carmen Miranda wrote:
Or at least can you charge the extra battery separately while the main is in use like with the Ranger RX batts?


Yes, the connector to charge the battery is located in the battery, not in the generator box.

tonghc wrote:
when you charge the battery make sure the 20A fuse is connected. I spent 10mins figuring out why the battery is not charging.


Same here

evertdoorn wrote:
what a tiny and light package...amazing!


Yes, I completely agree on this. The weight/performace ration of the Quadra is incredible good. And the integrated Skyport rocks.

BTW, the units and batteries are actually produced in Switzerland, not in Asia!



evertdoorn
Registered: Feb 29, 2008
Total Posts: 609
Country: Netherlands

roanjohnnyc wrote:


YET?? So you will be getting it in the future??




Love to - but I'm not doing that much shooting on location at this moment. For now I'll stick to the heavy innovatronix with a regular head. As soon as I do more and more stuff on location, which I'd like to do in the future, it would definitely be a good investment!



el_hoppy
Registered: Feb 09, 2006
Total Posts: 969
Country: Sweden

Oh crap, I just walked into a trap.

I went to my local camera store to check out a mic for my 5D2 and they were having a demo day. I have read the specs and seen the Fran Doorhorf photo of the model holding the Quadra lights and pack, but was not until I held them myself that I got to fully appreciate their size and weight.

It is no longer a case of "if" and it is now just a "when" (and "where" as I might buy them is Switzerland next month).

One sad thing for me was that Elinchrom distributer knew me when I mentioned my name. Not good being remembered by distributers when you are a amateur

Oh yeah, he said that they will have stock next week and not every unit is preordered.



roanjohnnyc
Registered: Feb 28, 2004
Total Posts: 564
Country: United States

martin.egger wrote:
tonghc wrote:
In any case......can you use the battery while it's plugged and charging?


Yes, no problem. As stated in the manual, the charging time will be somewhat longer when you are using the battery while charging.

Carmen Miranda wrote:
Or at least can you charge the extra battery separately while the main is in use like with the Ranger RX batts?


Yes, the connector to charge the battery is located in the battery, not in the generator box.




Thanks Martin!!! That's mainly what I wanted to know. Now the waiting game begins. I wonder if anybody knows a place in NYC that are taking names for pre-order? Gotta start making some phone calls......



jmi25
Registered: May 05, 2009
Total Posts: 7
Country: United States

rudiphoto wrote:
Why doesn't anyone check the manufacturer's website any more? The Skyport will sync up to 1/1000th as well. See here: www.elinchrom.com


Hmm, indeed it does say 1/1000 once I figured out where to look. Not sure where my misinformation came from but apologies for spreading it. May have been a reviewer that did not know what they were doing... irritating since this is the only reason I have PWs.

EDIT - found it, it was in the sales lit, but I was confused by the odd wording. Apologies. What I reas was

"up to 1/250 for focal plane shutter*
*speed dependent upon camera model and capabilities"

but it also says 1/1000 for an electronic shutter, in other words they seem to be repeating the camera specification, and the trigger itself is 1/1000. Darn it, I am a fool.



roanjohnnyc
Registered: Feb 28, 2004
Total Posts: 564
Country: United States

Frank Updated his review:

http://www.doorhof.nl/blog/index.php?topic=2469.0

In a nutshell, nice quality light with the kit reflector. Might be too fragile to handle large modifiers - I wonder how large he is talking about...... hmmmm.......



roanjohnnyc
Registered: Feb 28, 2004
Total Posts: 564
Country: United States

Unboxing pics in China? Asia......... How did it get there so fast?

http://www.dchome.net/redirect.php?tid=699039&goto=lastpost

.........load for page is a bit slow.



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