ND-Filter in 82mm
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Bobu
Registered: Apr 22, 2004
Total Posts: 956
Country: Germany

I'm looking for a dark ND-Filter (1.8-3.0 / 6-10 Bl. / 64-1000x) in 82mm.
The problem is the combination of 82mm and dark.
Neither B+W nor Heliopan seems to have anything in that size.
Can anybody help?

Best regards,

Boris



HerbChong
Registered: Dec 02, 2005
Total Posts: 7276
Country: United States

you are going to have to custom order a filter from Singh-Ray for one of the larger rectangular filter systems. they may custom make one for you in 82mm too. otherwise, if you are shooting not too wide, you can stack a pair of 3 stop ones but that is as much as i would ever stack. two filters, even multicoated, has so much greater increased chance of flare.

Herb...



Bobu
Registered: Apr 22, 2004
Total Posts: 956
Country: Germany

Thanks for the answer, but Singh-Ray is very difficult to get in germany. Does LEE make dark ND-filter (I have allready a LEE filter system, but would prefer a ND glass filter)? What about Hoya?
Stacking is no option since I plan to use the filter on 21mm and 24mm lenses.

Boris



howardm4
Registered: Feb 08, 2008
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it's not going to be anymore difficult to get than what you want. No one makes a 8+ stop ND filter in 82mm. B/W used to and Hoya may still but not in 82mm



HerbChong
Registered: Dec 02, 2005
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Country: United States

Lee suggests you stack their 3 stop filters. i don't like that solution because of light leaks from the sides.

Herb...

Bobu wrote:
Thanks for the answer, but Singh-Ray is very difficult to get in germany. Does LEE make dark ND-filter (I have allready a LEE filter system, but would prefer a ND glass filter)? What about Hoya?



Bobu
Registered: Apr 22, 2004
Total Posts: 956
Country: Germany

Stacking several resin-filter is not the best idea to improve your image quality.

I just wrote emails to B+W and Heliopan, asking them, whether they can make a 1.8-3.0 ND filter in 82mm on custom order.

Boris



howardm4
Registered: Feb 08, 2008
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as a favor, I've confirmed w/ 2filter.com (one of the biggest importers of filters in the US) that they have nothing in stock and Schneider Optics (BW or Heliopan) stops at 77mm



Bobu
Registered: Apr 22, 2004
Total Posts: 956
Country: Germany

Thanks for the info! By the way only B+W is part of Schneider Optics (Schneider Kreuznach), Heliopan is a different company, although both use glass from the german Shott-Group for some/most of their filters.

Boris



Alex Nail
Registered: Aug 02, 2006
Total Posts: 2759
Country: United Kingdom

I think a square filter might be your only option. To be honest I find those filters to be a bit gimmicky (I have a 10 stop that I hardly ever use). I hope they will be a passing fad, I get sick of pooly composed long exposure shots

PS I enjoyed your photos of Scotland!



howardm4
Registered: Feb 08, 2008
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also, almost every time I use my BW 110 (8-9 stop), there is a colorshift toward amber so you'll want to perhaps have a test shot w/ grey card/whibal in it



HerbChong
Registered: Dec 02, 2005
Total Posts: 7276
Country: United States

so have you seen any well composed long exposure shots?

Herb...

Alex Nail wrote:
To be honest I find those filters to be a bit gimmicky (I have a 10 stop that I hardly ever use). I hope they will be a passing fad, I get sick of pooly composed long exposure shots



davewolfs
Registered: Jun 15, 2006
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Country: United States

Hi-Tec makes a four stop filter that would fit your Lee holder, there is no advantage in glass over the plastic filters that I am aware of. Tiffen also makes glass 4x4 filters but they are probably very fragile.



gearhead5
Registered: Jun 15, 2006
Total Posts: 1419
Country: United States

davewolfs wrote:
Hi-Tec makes a four stop filter that would fit your Lee holder, there is no advantage in glass over the plastic filters that I am aware of. Tiffen also makes glass 4x4 filters but they are probably very fragile.


Actually, less fragile than resin, but about $450 each for the 4"x6" filters.



Bobu
Registered: Apr 22, 2004
Total Posts: 956
Country: Germany

Today I got the answers from B+W and Heliopan. B+W does only make the ND 1.8 and 3.0 up to 77mm. But Heliopan can deliver ND 2.0 and 3.0 in 82mm for 115€ each (in slim). I ordered both today.

Thank's for all the answers,

Boris



HerbChong
Registered: Dec 02, 2005
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Country: United States

lucky you, and not that expensive.

Herb...



Bobu
Registered: Apr 22, 2004
Total Posts: 956
Country: Germany

One day later I found two nice ND filter from Heliopan in my letterbox. That's a perfect customer service!

Boris



Frank Kearney
Registered: Nov 04, 2007
Total Posts: 339
Country: United States

You can buy the very same Heliopan filter here from B&H for $523. Must be the duty.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/21724-REG/Heliopan_708251_82mm_Center_ND_3x.html



Bobu
Registered: Apr 22, 2004
Total Posts: 956
Country: Germany

Frank Kearney wrote:
You can buy the very same Heliopan filter here from B&H for $523. Must be the duty.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/21724-REG/Heliopan_708251_82mm_Center_ND_3x.html


That's not the same filter. This one has a 105mm front thread (and a 82mm rear thread). It ist build for extreme wide angles. But 523$ for this filter is still a ridiculous price. Mine has no front thread and the glass is only 82mm. This is an example with the ND 3.0 on my 24TSE II:



This image is copyrighted by the owner




Boris



Jeremy Conoley
Registered: Apr 28, 2007
Total Posts: 112
Country: United States

I can't attest to quality or performance, but one of the one's I've been looking at is the lightcraftwrokshop.com ND Fader.

I'm not sure if it's dark enough for you and I've never used, but it's at least one more place to look.



jjgeis
Registered: Aug 19, 2004
Total Posts: 414
Country: United States

Check my post at http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/820663/0#lastmessage. The Fader I have has very poor IQ. Defective or very poor quality? So far all I know is that I have a $109 filter that will not be used.

John



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