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JimBuchanan Registered: Jan 11, 2006 Total Posts: 1115 Country: United States |
I have EOS conversion kits for the Minolta Rokkor 58mm lenses at a price of US $69, shipped in the CON-US. Outside US, please email for shipping. ![]() Infinity adjustment of the Rokkor 58/1.2 lens After the lens is converted to EOS, and mounted on an EOS camera, the lens ID ring should be removed. It unscrews counter clockwise, looking at the front of the lens, and is shown below hanging on the end of the lens barrel. The all metal focus ring of the earlier models are the same construction, and the front edge will unscrew CCW from the focus grip. ![]() There are several methods of removal. Latex medical gloves will give the hands a better grip. A rubber wrench as shown below will help, also. The nice thing about this lens, is that one is not working with an ID ring so close to the front element glass as to do any harm to the glass. ![]() Once the ID ring is removed, the 4 infinity adjustment screws are accessible around the front element assembly: ![]() Although, there may be several techniques to do this, I find the following works for me, and is very exacting. It requires one to have a computer to view 100% crops on, AND have a tripod setup close enough to view a geometric object several miles away. The 4 infinity adjustment screws lock the focus ring to the lens helicoid. If you unscrew all 4 screws, the focus ring should move freely and independently from the helicoid. I find a distant telephone pole or other geometric object several miles away and place it center frame. It’s easiest to use a tripod and set the camera lens wide open, 2 second delay and mirror lockup, aperture priority. I take a shot with the lens focus ring turned all the way to the infinity stop, Then, take a 2nd shot after turning the focus ring back toward near, a very, very small amount, and a 3rd shot back just a bit more. I then remove the card from the camera & plug into the computer, import & view at 100%, and compare the 3 frames I’ve shot. There will be 1 of 3 scenarios. Exact, perfect focus. If you think you have perfect focus, then the job is done and lets go take pictures. But, if you want to see if that infinity object can get any sharper, then go to next scenario. #2 scenario where the 2nd and 3rd frame get progressively more out of focus and your not sure 1st frame is perfect. Turn the lens all the way to the infinity stop and loosen all 4 screws until the focus ring moves freely, and back the ring about half way toward the 30ft mark and tighten just 2 of the screws. Now you can turn the focus ring/helicoid more toward infinity. Continue take a frame and compare, until you find that point the distant object gets no sharper. Once the sharpest frame is found, then loosen the 2 tight screws, move the focus ring to the infinity stop, tighten all 4 screws and replace the lens ID ring. #3 scenario where the object gets more sharp as you go from frame 1, to 2, to 3. This means you started at past infinity, and should continue to move the lens ring a micro amount, shoot a frame, compare, until you find that point the distant object gets no sharper. Once the sharpest frame is found, then loosen the 4 screws, move the focus ring to the infinity stop, tighten all 4 screws and replace the lens ID ring. Note: There is a tolerance where the lens can be moved 2 or 3 “micro amounts” and there will be no difference in center infinity sharpness. If your technique is good enough, its possible to find the short side of this tolerance and bring nearer distances more into focus, thereby increasing depth of field at the infinity setting. Another Note: I have found that an "Industrial Sharpie" marker will blacken the inner exposed back from reflections in the mirror box, and could help with image quality. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION The Rokkor 58/1.2, like most other prime lenses, have one single assembly of elements that move as a group and do not change their relationship with any other part of the lens assembly. Exceptions to this would be floating element designs like the Zeiss ZF 50/2.0 makro, Canon FD 50L, Leica M 50/1.4 ASPH, a host of higher quality wide angles, etc. In the case of the Rokkor 58/1.2, and countless lens designs like it, there is one and only one lens position that produces a sharp focused infinity photo, which happens to be the closest position to the sensor, and therefore could cause mirror interference issues. To be clear, regardless of method of positioning the lens assembly for infinity focus, the position will be the same. The end result can be achieved by sanding a spacer down in thickness to reduce the optical path in the case of Minolta lenses on EOS, or use my parts. It makes no difference, except for the quality, geometric accuracy, cleanliness, and appearance of my kit. Now, if a 5D/Rokkor 58 shooter is only interested in mid-range or close range portraits, then the lens can sacrifice infinity for mirror clearance, as the lens assembly doesn't need to be as close to the mirror. I've heard descriptions of same like this, "Infinity focus needs f/4.0". In this case, the lens simply doesn't reach infinity focus and the fact is masked by the depth of field, stopped down to f/4.0 in this case. That statement is really subjective at best. With all the variance reported in 5D camera mirror clearances, the likely scenario is filing the lens housing, filing the 5D mirror, or both, and the possible sacrifice of infinity focus altogether. As far as I am concerned, these last options are the shooters choice, as there are so many variables. Please reply, or send me a PM with questions or comments. |
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gnrlmike Registered: May 09, 2006 Total Posts: 102 Country: United States |
Payment sent for one. |
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Kyle Nordeen Registered: Nov 28, 2007 Total Posts: 174 Country: United States |
Tagging for eventual feedback |
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Kyle Nordeen Registered: Nov 28, 2007 Total Posts: 174 Country: United States |
Free bump for Jim. |
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gnrlmike Registered: May 09, 2006 Total Posts: 102 Country: United States |
Jim, will a focus confirmation adapter like |
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ovredal73 Registered: Jun 21, 2005 Total Posts: 2476 Country: Norway |
Got two of these - fantastic sets. Beautifully made. If you own this lens and need to use it on an EOS, save yourself some hassle and get one! |
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gnrlmike Registered: May 09, 2006 Total Posts: 102 Country: United States |
I have one. I was thinking whether focus confirmation adapter (attached) will work with Jim's conversion kit. |
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JimBuchanan Registered: Jan 11, 2006 Total Posts: 1115 Country: United States |
gnrlmike wrote: |
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gnrlmike Registered: May 09, 2006 Total Posts: 102 Country: United States |
Too late for me as I just bought a couple. <sigh> |
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wkhc168 Registered: Jan 14, 2006 Total Posts: 983 Country: Canada |
The kit is great! Tag for feedback. |
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silent Registered: Jul 19, 2008 Total Posts: 84 Country: United States |
tag for feedback. |
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kellermsu Registered: Feb 04, 2009 Total Posts: 675 Country: United States |
Tagged for feedback. |
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msim Registered: Mar 23, 2009 Total Posts: 3 Country: United States |
also tagging for feedback |
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blktaln Registered: Nov 01, 2008 Total Posts: 65 Country: United States |
pm sent... |
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gnrlmike Registered: May 09, 2006 Total Posts: 102 Country: United States |
JimBuchanan wrote: |
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that_fox Registered: Apr 07, 2008 Total Posts: 184 Country: United States |
Payment sent for one earlier today, thanks Jim |
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kf_tam Registered: Apr 13, 2009 Total Posts: 70 Country: China |
Dear Jim, |
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kf_tam Registered: Apr 13, 2009 Total Posts: 70 Country: China |
Payment sent for one kit, thanks |
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kf_tam Registered: Apr 13, 2009 Total Posts: 70 Country: China |
Hi Jim, |
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bluelight Registered: Mar 29, 2005 Total Posts: 85 Country: Canada |
PM sent and tagged for feedback... |
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stephenWsmith Registered: Oct 04, 2007 Total Posts: 66 Country: Canada |
thanks jim, tagged for feedback. |
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dfoolish1 Registered: Jul 24, 2009 Total Posts: 1 Country: Australia |
payment sent last week... looking forward to receiving the goods =]] |
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LLL78 Registered: Sep 08, 2009 Total Posts: 2 Country: France |
payment sent yesterday for 2 adapters... |