14-24G lens consistancey
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parsons
Registered: Mar 29, 2004
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Country: United Kingdom

hi folks,
normally post on the canon or landscape forum, but my question is more related here.

iam looking to drop some cash on the above lens for my 1dsmk2 with adapter.
as iam sure you are aware canon has qc problems with majority of there lenses, some better than others etc, ive been on the receiveing end of some samples.

so, does nikon with there glass have the same issues as canon or do we just moan more

i would like respsones if possible from users who have had issues with this lens or tried multi copys to pick a good one,

thanks,

simon



Max Power
Registered: Mar 27, 2006
Total Posts: 192
Country: United States

Never heard a single complaint about this lens other than the fact that you can't put filters on it.



Steve Perry
Registered: Oct 10, 2006
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I've shot Nikon and canon and Nikon's QC is in another league. About half my canon glass had to go back for "calibration", no problems with Nikon. The 14-24 is really good and I don't think I've ever seen anyone get a bad copy.



parsons
Registered: Mar 29, 2004
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thanks,

sounds encouarging. lookslike i may need to have a serious talk to the wife

simon



Max Power
Registered: Mar 27, 2006
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The fact that there is an adapter available should tell you a lot...!



parsons
Registered: Mar 29, 2004
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true, but as iam not from the `dark side` iam not sure what problems you guys run in to with regards QC, like us canonians have to put up with

simon



poisonpill
Registered: Apr 14, 2005
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parsons wrote:
true, but as iam not from the `dark side` iam not sure what problems you guys run in to with regards QC, like us canonians have to put up with

simon



Frankly I donno how you Canon shooters put up with that. Lens consistency really is a non-issue in Nikon world.



AGeoJO
Registered: Jul 08, 2003
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poisonpill wrote:
Frankly I donno how you Canon shooters put up with that. Lens consistency really is a non-issue in Nikon world.


Front or back focusing issues are definitely present on both camps and I am talking from experience. The tolerance so far is within the AF adjustment of the newer camera bodies, however. Sorry to bring some of you guys back to earth .



gvg45
Registered: Oct 05, 2007
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AGeoJO wrote:
Front or back focusing issues are definitely present on both camps and I am talking from experience. The tolerance so far is within the AF adjustment of the newer camera bodies, however. Sorry to bring some of you guys back to earth .


While Nikon may have some issues with some lenses it is not even close to the problems Canon seems to have. And I am talking from experience as well.



AGeoJO
Registered: Jul 08, 2003
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gvg45 wrote:
While Nikon may have some issues with some lenses it is not even close to the problems Canon seems to have. And I am talking from experience as well.


Greg, the key word, like you mentioned, is "seems". We do not know the ratio of out of calibration compared to good lenses on both camps and we are not talking the actual numbers here. Let's face it there are more Canon users out there than Nikon at this point although there is a definite shift of late. Plus, there are quite a bit of reported of soft lens cases that are actually user error cases or improper "testing" cases. Well, you know that....



90 5.0
Registered: Jul 08, 2008
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AGeoJO wrote:
gvg45 wrote:
While Nikon may have some issues with some lenses it is not even close to the problems Canon seems to have. And I am talking from experience as well.


Greg, the key word, like you mentioned, is "seems". We do not know the ratio of out of calibration compared to good lenses on both camps and we are not talking the actual numbers here. Let's face it there are more Canon users out there than Nikon at this point although there is a definite shift of late. Plus, there are quite a bit of reported of soft lens cases that are actually user error cases or improper "testing" cases. Well, you know that....



Yes this, I don't know how many "soft lens" threads I have seen where the exif said the shot was 1/8 or 1/10 on 200+mm lenses lol



Tom Conte
Registered: Mar 08, 2002
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Just my $0.02, but I also have noticed a huge increase in quality control of lenses (and bodies, for that matter) when I moved from Canon to Nikon. I have yet to buy a single Nikon lens that has a QC issue. On the Canon side, it was normal and expected to have to go through a couple of copies to find a good one (ridiculous, especially for "L" class lenses!).

Tom (who has owned nearly every Canon DSLR and L-class lens)



gvg45
Registered: Oct 05, 2007
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AGeoJO wrote:
Greg, the key word, like you mentioned, is "seems". We do not know the ratio of out of calibration compared to good lenses on both camps and we are not talking the actual numbers here. Let's face it there are more Canon users out there than Nikon at this point although there is a definite shift of late. Plus, there are quite a bit of reported of soft lens cases that are actually user error cases or improper "testing" cases. Well, you know that....


You have a point that Canon has the numbers as far as shooters go. I am mostly speaking from my own experience using several lenses from both camps and what I read on various forums.




gvg45
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Tom Conte wrote:
Just my $0.02, but I also have noticed a huge increase in quality control of lenses (and bodies, for that matter) when I moved from Canon to Nikon. I have yet to buy a single Nikon lens that has a QC issue. On the Canon side, it was normal and expected to have to go through a couple of copies to find a good one (ridiculous, especially for "L" class lenses!).

Tom (who has owned nearly every Canon DSLR and L-class lens)


This has been my experience as well. I hope I'm not jinxing myself, but my experience with Nikon has been great. With Canon, I always had to expect to make a drive out to Irvine.....and sometimes multiple times for the same problem.



Max Power
Registered: Mar 27, 2006
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When Nikon guys need lens issues to make our lives interesting, we turn to Sigma.



molson
Registered: Oct 30, 2002
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parsons wrote:

i would like respsones if possible from users who have had issues with this lens or tried multi copys to pick a good one,



Make sure you check the zoom ring for problems before buying. I tried four copies before I found one that worked smoothly, and the store manager where I bought it mentioned they had a couple of other customers return these lenses because of problems with the zoom mechanism.

Optically, it's a very nice lens.



Pavel
Registered: Jun 11, 2003
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I second what Tom has said.

Pavel (who tried to own every Canon lens available - but the reality of his bank account - kept mocking his puny attempts )



Fishinfool
Registered: Aug 03, 2008
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Just about all my experience with Canon lenses was with manual focus. I considered their FD manual focus line as very high in quality and consistancy. Since moving to Nikon, I have purchased / used a fair number of Nikkor lenses, and have not had a problem.

Larry



Chris Dees
Registered: Dec 24, 2002
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One of my top reasons for switching was the QC problems I had with Canon bodies and lenses. So far I'm not disappointed (to say the least ).

At this moment the 14-24 is the sharpest (ultra) wide angle lens available. It's better than primes (Canon/Nikon, I'm not sure with Zeiss or Contax).
It's quite heavy (1kg!) and it doesn't takes filters (I'm still looking for a good solution). But it is shhaaarp!!

Have a look at http://www.16-9.net/ (Hubsand on FM), he sells adapters as well.



Tobin28
Registered: Feb 11, 2005
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Country: Canada

Was with canon for 4 years. Never once would I mail order a lens. I would always try out several copies to find a sharp one. I have mail ordered Nikon lenses and have no worries at all. Just my experience.



Max Power
Registered: Mar 27, 2006
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Chris Dees wrote:


Have a look at http://www.16-9.net/ (Hubsand on FM), he sells adapters as well.


Wow, does that test ever expose the Sigma.



gugs
Registered: Apr 16, 2005
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no problem at all with the 14-24 as far as I am concerned. And no problem at all with any of my Nikon lenses (the only exception has been an old 28-80 cheapo plastic lens which literally exploded in my hands).
I have a few focus adjustment issues with Tamron lenses, however (but they work perfectly after adjustment in the body)

Guy



gugs
Registered: Apr 16, 2005
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no problem at all with the 14-24 as far as I am concerned. And no problem at all with any of my Nikon lenses (the only exception has been an old 28-80 cheapo plastic lens which literally exploded in my hands).
I have a few focus adjustment issues with Tamron lenses, however (but they work perfectly after adjustment in the body)

Guy



parsons
Registered: Mar 29, 2004
Total Posts: 4947
Country: United Kingdom

thank you for the responses. yes it is marks adapter that iam thinking of getting.

another question, hows the distortion on this thing @ 24mm 18 &14mm. i have the sigma 12-24 even on a crop 1.3 ive got some bad distortion that i cannot deal with in PS.

simon



TWoK
Registered: Sep 17, 2008
Total Posts: 3526
Country: Japan

Get a 16-35/2.8 Mk2 and forget about adapting this lens. Adapting this thing is going to make it even more bulky and awkward to use...



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