Best Wide-Angle for Nikon?
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kierra
Registered: Feb 06, 2008
Total Posts: 55
Country: Australia

Hey all,

I'm looking into getting a good wide angle but I've got no idea on what to get so I'm after your help

I've got a D200 and my main lens is a 17-50 2.8 Tamron. I LOVE this lens, but I'm looking for something a bit wider for my architecture shots, but I'm not after a fish eye.


Any suggestions?

Cheers
Kierra



treebeard
Registered: Sep 21, 2006
Total Posts: 3191
Country: United States

Nikkor 12-24 if you want to stay with Nikon. Sigma 10-20 or 12-24 but copies can vary quite a bit on the above mentioned Sigma lenses.



leftpocket
Registered: Oct 21, 2004
Total Posts: 873
Country: United States

Yes, Sigma and Tamron won Pop Photo's Editor's Choice Awards:

http://www.popphoto.com/americanphotofeatures/5339/editors-choice-2008-slr-lenses.html




kierra
Registered: Feb 06, 2008
Total Posts: 55
Country: Australia

what f stop is the Nikkor 12-24? The Sigma 10-20 is like 3.5-5.6 isnt it? I've heard it isnt that sharp..

Nevermind, I found out its 2.8..

That makes it like $2500 -le sigh-



kierra
Registered: Feb 06, 2008
Total Posts: 55
Country: Australia

leftpocket wrote:
Yes, Sigma and Tamron won Pop Photo's Editor's Choice Awards:

http://www.popphoto.com/americanphotofeatures/5339/editors-choice-2008-slr-lenses.html





great article, thanks



louis fusco
Registered: Nov 18, 2005
Total Posts: 3930
Country: Ireland

tolkina 12-24 is very good, f4 all the way through i don't find f2.8 is necessary on an ultra wide.



kierra
Registered: Feb 06, 2008
Total Posts: 55
Country: Australia

louis fusco wrote:
tolkina 12-24 is very good, f4 all the way through i don't find f2.8 is necessary on an ultra wide.


Ooher, got any shots you'd like to share?



treebeard
Registered: Sep 21, 2006
Total Posts: 3191
Country: United States

louis fusco wrote:
tolkina 12-24 is very good, f4 all the way through i don't find f2.8 is necessary on an ultra wide.


Yes, I had the tokina 12-24 when shooting Canon and it was a fantastic lens, very sharp with nice colors.



treebeard
Registered: Sep 21, 2006
Total Posts: 3191
Country: United States

kierra wrote:
what f stop is the Nikkor 12-24? The Sigma 10-20 is like 3.5-5.6 isnt it? I've heard it isnt that sharp..

Nevermind, I found out its 2.8..

That makes it like $2500 -le sigh-


The Nikkor 12-24 can be had for around $600. The Sigma 10-20 is not 2.8 and neither is the Sigma 12-24. Like I said....the only issue with the Sigma lenses is finding a sharp copy. My Sigma 12-24 was exceptionally sharp on my MkIII and MkII. $2500



David Baldwin
Registered: Jun 28, 2007
Total Posts: 999
Country: United Kingdom

Hello kierra

"Ooher, got any shots you'd like to share?"

Here are some (very) large samples from my Tokina 12-24, although I should point out I use this lens on my crop Canon. I love the Toke, stunning lens, although not suitable if you intend to go full frame one day:

http://www.nightfolio.co.uk/subpages/ar16b.html
http://www.nightfolio.co.uk/subpages/as008.html
http://www.nightfolio.co.uk/subpages/as011.html
http://www.nightfolio.co.uk/subpages/gdn007.html
http://www.nightfolio.co.uk/subpages/la17.html

I love my Tokina, but I admit that if I were a Nikon shooter who was going full frame one day, and had the money, I would certainly buy the wonderful Nikkor 14-24 f2.8 G

Good luck



kierra
Registered: Feb 06, 2008
Total Posts: 55
Country: Australia

treebeard wrote:
kierra wrote:
what f stop is the Nikkor 12-24? The Sigma 10-20 is like 3.5-5.6 isnt it? I've heard it isnt that sharp..

Nevermind, I found out its 2.8..

That makes it like $2500 -le sigh-


The Nikkor 12-24 can be had for around $600. The Sigma 10-20 is not 2.8 and neither is the Sigma 12-24. Like I said....the only issue with the Sigma lenses is finding a sharp copy. My Sigma 12-24 was exceptionally sharp on my MkIII and MkII. $2500


$2500 I think is the price for it here in Australia.. Im pretty sure its the same lens i was looking at in my work catalog. I work in a camera store :P

Yea I want the sharpest one I can get, yes I do sharpen all my photos, but I'd like one where it isnt soft at the edges, I've seen that problem with the Sigma 10-20



kierra
Registered: Feb 06, 2008
Total Posts: 55
Country: Australia

David Baldwin wrote:
Hello kierra

"Ooher, got any shots you'd like to share?"

Here are some (very) large samples from my Tokina 12-24, although I should point out I use this lens on my crop Canon. I love the Toke, stunning lens, although not suitable if you intend to go full frame one day:

http://www.nightfolio.co.uk/subpages/ar16b.html
http://www.nightfolio.co.uk/subpages/as008.html
http://www.nightfolio.co.uk/subpages/as011.html
http://www.nightfolio.co.uk/subpages/gdn007.html
http://www.nightfolio.co.uk/subpages/la17.html

I love my Tokina, but I admit that if I were a Nikon shooter who was going full frame one day, and had the money, I would certainly buy the wonderful Nikkor 14-24 f2.8 G

Good luck


Great shots! I love the first and third ones. I'd dearly love to go full frame one day, just need a better paying job :P I'd own a D3 if I could afford it haha. Looks like a nice sharp lens.

Thanks for sharing!



Max Power
Registered: Mar 27, 2006
Total Posts: 178
Country: United States

If you work in a camera store, can't you get samples and try em out for yourself?



kierra
Registered: Feb 06, 2008
Total Posts: 55
Country: Australia

Max Power wrote:
If you work in a camera store, can't you get samples and try em out for yourself?



If I worked in our city store, possibly, since they have pretty much everything in stock, but that would only be around the store. If we want to use something we have to pay for it then return it in resalable condition.



tomb18
Registered: Oct 28, 2004
Total Posts: 1161
Country: Canada

I have the sigma 10-20 and I find it outstanding.
Here are 2 shots you can look at


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This image is copyrighted by the owner






treebeard
Registered: Sep 21, 2006
Total Posts: 3191
Country: United States

kierra wrote:
treebeard wrote:
kierra wrote:
what f stop is the Nikkor 12-24? The Sigma 10-20 is like 3.5-5.6 isnt it? I've heard it isnt that sharp..

Nevermind, I found out its 2.8..

That makes it like $2500 -le sigh-


The Nikkor 12-24 can be had for around $600. The Sigma 10-20 is not 2.8 and neither is the Sigma 12-24. Like I said....the only issue with the Sigma lenses is finding a sharp copy. My Sigma 12-24 was exceptionally sharp on my MkIII and MkII. $2500


$2500 I think is the price for it here in Australia.. Im pretty sure its the same lens i was looking at in my work catalog. I work in a camera store :P

Yea I want the sharpest one I can get, yes I do sharpen all my photos, but I'd like one where it isnt soft at the edges, I've seen that problem with the Sigma 10-20


Sorry, forgot that you were in Australia!



poisonpill
Registered: Apr 14, 2005
Total Posts: 1423
Country: United States

I had the Sigma 10-20mm and it was great. I have the Tokina 11-16mm now because I wanted F/2.8 and it's even better. Probably the sharpest super wide next to the Nikon 14-24mm.



tomm101
Registered: Dec 23, 2005
Total Posts: 1087
Country: United States

I like the Tokina 11-16 with my D200, very nice sharp images, very low distortion for a WA zoom and low CAs. It is surprising uses you find for f2.8, indoor photographing groups, meetings, and I'm an f8+ sort of guy.
Some folks have said this lens has a lot of CAs but I have only seem them on oof with extreme contrast and only on f2.8 (the only f-stop on this lens where anything is oof ;-)) and then the effect was very slight.

Tom



Zachs
Registered: Jul 08, 2005
Total Posts: 2378
Country: United States

If you want an excellent Tokina 12-24 f/4, I have one for sale. She's taken most of my top photos (photojournalism and personal landscape work).



Pavel
Registered: Jun 11, 2003
Total Posts: 4642
Country: United States

Well it seems like digital makes sharpening and other adjustments possible where now one has a whole range of accetable choices, from inexpensive to "hurt your wallet".

Sharpness, I think is not much of an issue. Low light ... makes f 2.8 nice. Geometric distortion makes the 12-24 a good candidate above many of the somewhat wider and cheaper choices ... but my values lie towards minimum focus ... and the very best in that regard is the Zeiss 25. It's not super wide by todays standards but the quality is up there with the very best it terms of IQ and built, both. But what I find special about it is that it is the very best at close focusing - better than even the 24 pc-e. It's not too expensive ($800) neither and is very carry-able. So if you don't want those extreme perspectives (which I personally find somewhat tiresome after a while, akin that the fishey look) then I'd seriously consider one and put it on my short list.



Pavel
Registered: Jun 11, 2003
Total Posts: 4642
Country: United States

Great photos Tomb18!



Max Power
Registered: Mar 27, 2006
Total Posts: 178
Country: United States

Pavel wrote:
Great photos Tomb18!


No kidding.

+10



Steve Carlton
Registered: Sep 21, 2006
Total Posts: 1080
Country: United States

I had the Sigma 10-20 and was very happy with it. I switched to the Tokina 11-16 because it's sharper and 2.8 all the way thorough. I did a comparison here:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/657992



Anthony Labbe
Registered: Dec 03, 2007
Total Posts: 69
Country: Canada

Sigma 10-20 here.. mine is incredably sharp and never an issue.

Does not seem to matter who the lens is from, there is variance (Nikon being by far the most consistant).
The 10-20 not being a 2.8 has never come into play for me as I find that I want more depth than 2.8 gives or need to trim out some light during day shooting so never tempted to change it.

If anything I end up shooting mostly sports or macro, so this ends up getting little use...when it does..GREAT lens!
My guess... you can't go too wrong with any of the above lenses.

Thanks,
Anthony



AJ Nadershahi
Registered: Jan 05, 2004
Total Posts: 3420
Country: N/A

Surprised no one has mentioned Nikon's incredible 14-24. Amazingly sharp and low distortion, which would be important for architectural images.



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