Rokkor 45mm f2
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Chris Radley
Registered: Jul 05, 2007
Total Posts: 45
Country: United Kingdom

Hi, is this lens any good based on people's experiences?

I've just started building a collection of alternative lenses and today bought a 58mm f1.2 MC Rokkor which is beautiful. Is the 45mm f2 Rokkor similar in IQ?

Thanks



rsrsrs
Registered: May 14, 2008
Total Posts: 139
Country: Germany

hi,
if you have a rollei EOS adapter, you can clamp it on the minolta mount
an test it until 3-4m without building anything.
My first view with it on my 5D was very promising.
but converting it will not be easy.
later this month i hopefully know more.

mit freundlichen gruessen

r schneider



Chris Radley
Registered: Jul 05, 2007
Total Posts: 45
Country: United Kingdom

Thanks.

I was thinking I might be able to follow Cogitech's conversion process. Really just wondering what the IQ of the lens is like.



Ed Sawyer
Registered: May 08, 2007
Total Posts: 1202
Country: United States

IQ is ok but nothing super special. Certainly not rokkor 58/1.2 quality or even 50 1.4 quality IMO.

I have a test of it posted I think at www.edsawyer.com/lenstests/

if it's not there, I have it but haven't posted it yet.

-Ed



badastronaut
Registered: Nov 05, 2005
Total Posts: 118
Country: Canada

i have the 45mm f2, two actually since it was so cheap might as well buy a spare.

IQ is pretty good, very pancake like compact and lightweight which helps for discrete shooting. Definitely no where near 58mm f1.2.

It was sold as a kit lens i believe.



weezintrumpete
Registered: May 18, 2005
Total Posts: 1337
Country: United States

Sorry to bump an old thread, but is there any information on converting one of these to EOS? I recently acquired one for $20 and thought it'd be nice to use as a pancake on a 5D. I've heard rumors of something related to the Cogitech forum (which is down) and I can't find any information on how to do the conversion.

Thanks!



trumpet_guy
Registered: Jun 23, 2006
Total Posts: 2055
Country: United States

It's small but not greatly smaller than a Contax CZ 50/1.7 and so I've never
thought much about converting mine to EOS mount.

I don't recall ever seeing instructions here on how to do that conversion,
but best wishes. Maybe you'll find the site.



CVickery
Registered: May 14, 2004
Total Posts: 1504
Country: Canada

JimBuchanan described his approach once for me. It isn't easy and the lens probably doesn't have the IQ to make it worthwhile. The 45/2 I bought for $15Cdn is still a Minolta mount. If I happen across a MD>4/3 adapter some day that's cheap enough I may try it out on my friend's Oly.



debuggerus
Registered: Apr 25, 2008
Total Posts: 245
Country: United States

Well, I really like my converted one .. I think it's a sleeper, especially so cheap. I think it is easier than the 50 1.4. Used a circular grinder, sanded down .5 mm. It's easy to sand since the MD mount is removable from the bottom base. I think you should try to convert it. Good luck.

A sample:






weezintrumpete
Registered: May 18, 2005
Total Posts: 1337
Country: United States

That looks great debuggerus. Any more samples? I also sent you a PM...



JimU
Registered: Jan 21, 2009
Total Posts: 128
Country: Canada

i'd like to see more samples as well please. about 1028x768?

i've got one on my minolta XG-1 but it's focus ring is kinda loose.



debuggerus
Registered: Apr 25, 2008
Total Posts: 245
Country: United States

One correction: now that I look at the conversion, it is the same difficulty as the rokkor 50 1.4. I had to grind both the mount base and the M42-EOS adapter and adjusted infinity focus from the front in the end.

As request, a few more larger samples:



100% crop:


mounted on a 40D:


some more:






weezintrumpete
Registered: May 18, 2005
Total Posts: 1337
Country: United States

Wow, I am impressed and now very interested in doing this conversion



debuggerus
Registered: Apr 25, 2008
Total Posts: 245
Country: United States

I've completed another 45mm f2 conversion. This time I managed to record the process.
The process should be similar with many other rokkors (50 f1.4, 85 f2, 28 f2, ...) using simpler tools (I wish I had a lathe). I hope it will be helpful.

45mm F2 to EOS conversion

Cheers!
PDo



weezintrumpete
Registered: May 18, 2005
Total Posts: 1337
Country: United States

Thanks for posting that! Does anyone else have any experience with the 45mm on EOS? I'm going to attempt the conversion soon...



matthewm
Registered: Mar 06, 2008
Total Posts: 619
Country: United States

I really, really love this lens on my X700 so I think I'll keep it that way. Don't want to go cutting and gluing and messing around with a perfectly good lens. REALLY wanted this to use on my 5D, but I can't justify the trouble that it's most likely going to cause me.

Not to mention I don't have the tools to get it done properly.

Nice images though. And a GREAT tutorial.

Best,
Matthew



Makten
Registered: Jul 14, 2008
Total Posts: 885
Country: Sweden

Lovely bokeh there! Just a trace of outlining of the blur discs, which makes it "interesting" but still smooth.

Edit: And of course; great shots of the kids!



Jim Schemel
Registered: Oct 18, 2006
Total Posts: 1601
Country: United States

Here is a set taken with my 45 Rokkor on a 5D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/footstool67/sets/72157622079471838/
Very nice lens great sharpness and color and very small and light
-Jim



Cableaddict
Registered: Jun 10, 2008
Total Posts: 2449
Country: United States

debuggerus wrote:
I've completed another 45mm f2 conversion. This time I managed to record the process.
The process should be similar with many other rokkors (50 f1.4, 85 f2, 28 f2, ...) using simpler tools (I wish I had a lathe). I hope it will be helpful.

45mm F2 to EOS conversion

Cheers!
PDo


Debuggerus, thanks for the excellent pictorial guide.

One thing puzzles me, though: You remove the aperture mechanism, and never replace it? How does that work? Is that mechanism only there for when the (Minolta) camera does auto stop-down?

Also: Any mirror issues? (I use a 5D, so this is always a concern)

thanks



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 8941
Country: Canada

The aperture mechanism needs to be re-installed onto the back of the plate before assembly, or aperture control will be lost altogether. There should be no mirror issues to worry about.



Dim.ka_
Registered: Apr 30, 2008
Total Posts: 368
Country: Latvia

Makten wrote:
Lovely bokeh there! Just a trace of outlining of the blur discs, which makes it "interesting" but still smooth.

Edit: And of course; great shots of the kids!


smooth bokeh is only at close to minimum focusing distaces at more common 1-2 meters it is quite busy, but has very strong 3d look



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upper part crop


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Cableaddict
Registered: Jun 10, 2008
Total Posts: 2449
Country: United States

cogitech wrote:
The aperture mechanism needs to be re-installed onto the back of the plate before assembly, or aperture control will be lost altogether. There should be no mirror issues to worry about.


Thanks, Paul.

I figured as much, but that tutorial fails to mention this step. ( ! )

In general, are there no mirror issues with MD lenses and a 5D? I'm considering a different MD lens. I will be doing a slight shave of my mirror anyway, for my upcoming MC 58/1.2 conversion, but it would be good to know. It's really hard to find this info online.

Thanks.



cogitech
Registered: Apr 20, 2005
Total Posts: 8941
Country: Canada

I wouldn't generalize about all MDs, but the 45/2 didn't cause mirror issues for me and I haven't heard anyone else complain about it.



Jim Schemel
Registered: Oct 18, 2006
Total Posts: 1601
Country: United States

I also had no mirror issues with my 45 f2 on my 5D and achieved infinity focus with out adjustment
-Jim



pengland
Registered: Aug 21, 2008
Total Posts: 267
Country: Canada

How is the adapter attached to the reduced back in this conversion? I see no screw holes in the adapter so some other method must have been employed.That step looks to be missing.

After taking a second look I see mention of glue. If it is glued on, how does one carry out cleaning or repairs afterward?



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