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Kyle Nordeen Registered: Nov 28, 2007 Total Posts: 174 Country: United States |
I recently started purchasing MF lenses to use on my 1D and have fallen in love with them. I just sold a Sigma 70-200 I rarely used to help fund the purchase of a MF portrait lens, and I am currently trying to decide between these three. |
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alexandre Registered: Jun 30, 2005 Total Posts: 2596 Country: Brazil |
You should look for Rokkor 85/1.7 also. There's one on sale on B&S forum. |
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mpmendenhall Registered: Aug 09, 2008 Total Posts: 1477 Country: United States |
I have the Leica 90/2 (pre-aspherical, Canada manufacture) and the Canon 85L II (no experience with the Zeiss or Nikon 85). The 85L wins in sharpness (out-resolving my 5D's sensor to the point of creating moiré artifacts on high-contrast edges), but in some cases I prefer the drawing characteristics of the 90/2. ![]() and another 100% crop, wide open at f2 against a bright sky: ![]() The 90/2's rendering of out-of-focus areas is noticeably different from the 85L's. As points go out of focus with the 85L, they appear to be uniformly gaussian blurred, giving a very smooth bokeh and shallow apparent depth-of-field. With the 90/2, points first become a spreading "halo" of light around a sharper central peak, causing nearly-focused areas to have lower contrast but still retain lines and textures. This gives the 90/2 a greater apparent depth of field at the same aperture as the 85L, with a sort of soft-focus effect "glow" around the nearly-focused areas. Closer foreground objects well out of the 90/2's depth-of-field end up smoothly blurred together, while background objects sometimes produce double lines and harder edges, giving a "painted brushstrokes" effect unlike the smooth blur of the 85L. Here is a sample of background blur from the 90/2 (100% crop, f5.6): ![]() I find 90/2 is a bit slow for dimmer indoor lighting (the 85L and Leica 50/2 are easier to handhold in dimmer lighting), but it only takes a touch of fill flash to get enough extra light. |
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jcolwell Registered: Feb 10, 2005 Total Posts: 11357 Country: Canada |
I have a Contax Carl Zeiss Planar 85/1.4 MM, and I love it. It provides great DOF control, super low-light performance, easy wide-open manual focusing, and superior sharpness. As far as sharpness goes, the Planar 80/1.4 is tied in second place with seven other lenses (one of them is EF 85/1.2L) in measured resolution tests at the old photodo site, with average weighted MTF of 4.6 (the Canon EF 200/1.8 was alone in first place at 4.8). As far as the subjective aspects go, including bokeh, contrast and colour, I like the Zeiss look. Michael provided a great description of why he likes the Summicron-R 90/2 bokeh (which I may grow to appreciate with the 50/2 that I recently acquired), and it sounds delicious. I guess the main point here is that personal preference plays a big role - maybe you should buy two of the three lenses you mention, compare them, keep the one you like best, buy the third alternative, compare them, etc... |
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cdnguyen Registered: Mar 19, 2003 Total Posts: 920 Country: United States |
Kyle - I'm glad you enjoy the Leica 35-70mm. I have the 90mm f2 Summicron R that I love to shoot it with my 5D. I can also suggest trying the Leica R 80mm f1.4 which every bit as good as the Zeiss 85 f1.4 or Nikon 85 f1.4. I had teh Zeiss Contax 85mm f1.4 and it was good for me except it's a bit heavy to lug around. |
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Kyle Nordeen Registered: Nov 28, 2007 Total Posts: 174 Country: United States |
Thanks Charles - I absolutely love it. I haven't stopped shooting with it since my adapter came in |