New Gorillapod...
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Chris B.
Registered: Oct 07, 2004
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I see that the Gorillapod people just came out with their "Focus" model which they claim will hold 11 lbs! Anyone thinking about getting one? I'm always looking for new and unique ways of supporting my gear but I haven't come up with any situations where I wouldn't be able to use either of my 2 tripods, my monopod or my beanbag...



lou f
Registered: Nov 18, 2005
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$140!! i'll stick with my slr zoom.



EB-1
Registered: Jan 09, 2003
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It could be useful for some special purpose, and even one usable shot would be worth the cost.

EBH



Cableaddict
Registered: Jun 10, 2008
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I have one. Got it on special from Adorama for "only" $100.

Hard to say how useful these things will be for most people (more on that below) but as far as build quality, this unit seem VERY solid. With my 5D and a 300mm lens attached, standing on a table as if a little tripod, I can tap the camera, and feel basically no residual vibration. It's about as stiff as a good aluminum tripod. My friend has the SLR version, and that one definitely does not damp vibration as well.

The strength of the legs (holding power when wrapped around something) is excellent, at least when the pod is new. No idea how it will age.

Another plus for this model is that it's taller than the SLR model. In "tripod" mode, it's about 11" to the screw. Sitting on a typical table, that gives you the equivalent of about a 40-41" tripod. Not great, but slightly more useable than the shorter model. I'm putting a Bogen vertical squeeze-grip head on mine, which will give me another few inches (over a standard ballhead.)

-BTW, I don't think these pods are very useful without ANY head. You probably want to also add a quick-release clamp. Start to get expensive, so you REALLY need to ask:
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Is it useful?

Well, for group portrait shots with a remote, sitting on a table, it's still a little short. (useful in an emergency, though)

For low-to the ground shots, and some macro & product shots, it is fantastic. -but again, you're going to want a quick-release clamp, or it may not be worth the effort to use it. (you might also want a 90-degree angled viewfinder. I'm hoping Canon's next offerings have articulating LCD's.)

For keeping in the truck as an emergency, well that's the main reason to have one, yes? -But I dunno how often when you need a tripod, you're going to find a convenient lamp, or ledge, or tree branch, right where you need it. What else can you attach this to? That's the problem.

One last use, and the reason I bought mine: I'm a musician, and like to take pics (movies also if I get the 5DII) of my band performing. It's usually rather difficult/dangerous to set up a tripod at the back wall of a club. However, there are typically lots of solid things hanging on the back wall & from the ceiling. I will use the pod to thus suspend my 5D high up on the back wall, and take pics with my radio remote. For, me, that one use is worth much more than I paid for this gizmo, even with the extra head & clamp.



EB-1
Registered: Jan 09, 2003
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Is that the 5D + 300/2.8 IS or something else?

EBH



Cableaddict
Registered: Jun 10, 2008
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No. Just a "lowly" Nikon 300/4.5 (a great lens, BTW)



The Image
Registered: Dec 04, 2004
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I bought it, when I initially seen the $140.00 price tag I said ouch too, being its so small, but my first outing with it, and its already paid for itself (did a nightshot from the top floor ledge of a skyscraper with a 5D/70-200mm 2.8L, it was stable and I got sharp shot) this model gorillapod is indespensable if your like me and your all over the place doing night shots and you dont want to drag the real tripod out. I can think of 100 other great uses with it for DSLR users such as travel.



Smiert Spionam
Registered: Jan 15, 2008
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Interesting -- sounds intriguing. Any chance of doing some tests at a range of shutter speeds? Long night exposures are nice, but even more useful would be to see how it does between 1/4th and 1/30th of a second with even a moderate tele lens.



EB-1
Registered: Jan 09, 2003
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Does it work well enough as a low pod?

EBH



lou f
Registered: Nov 18, 2005
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Country: Ireland

EB-1 wrote:
Does it work well enough as a low pod?

EBH


i found the slr zoom perfect as a low pod even with a d2h macro shots, no sharpness issues



EB-1
Registered: Jan 09, 2003
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So this new one should be sturdier, right?

EBH



Cableaddict
Registered: Jun 10, 2008
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Yes.

It's firmer than a bunch of HS football players, hiding out in the girls locker room during shower-time.


Well, maybe not THAT firm.



Cableaddict
Registered: Jun 10, 2008
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I just discovered a situation in which the Gorrillapod is actually SUPERIOR to a tripod.

Well, OK, my tripod is only a mid-level aluminum Manfotto, but still:

I was hiking yesterday, and wanted to do a 3-5 second NDF exposure on a stream. It was a very windy day, but I was several miles in, and didn't want to come back. Plus, the light was perfect.

Using my tripod, even with a heavy weight hanging from the center-hook, I got a lot of blur.

Luckily, there was a pine tree right there, and I had brought along the pod. Using the pod wrapped around the lowest branch, the shot was rock-solid. A world of difference.

Granted, the position of the camera wasn't dead-perfect, which bothers me, but the shot itself was far superior. My guess is that it would have outperformed even a top-end Gitzo, in this particular situation.

This gizmo is definitely worth having in your kit.




Mario Moschel
Registered: Aug 11, 2007
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Country: Germany

For 140 bucks, you'll get 5 professional clamps like these:

http://www.adorama.com/BG2915.html?searchinfo=bogen%20clamp&item_no=17

... or one super clamp and a used heavy duty tripod ...

They'll hold the weight safely.

I wouldn't trust my 2k or 3k gear on a plastic gorilla pod ....

Mario



pr4photos
Registered: Sep 17, 2008
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Country: United Kingdom

Got an Ebay version. Works a treat. 90% of the time I use it for holding a flash unit though, as I can put a flash in positions where I couldn't before.
Wouldn't be without it!



Smiert Spionam
Registered: Jan 15, 2008
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Cableaddict wrote:
I just discovered a situation in which the Gorrillapod is actually SUPERIOR to a tripod.

Well, OK, my tripod is only a mid-level aluminum Manfodo, but still:

I was hiking yesterday, and wanted to do a 3-5 second NDF exposure on a stream. It was a very windy day, but I was several miles in, and didn't want to come back. Plus, the light was perfect.

Using my tripod, even with a heavy weight hanging from the center-hook, I got a lot of blur.

Luckily, there was a pine tree right there, and I had brought along the pod. Using the pod wrapped around the lowest branch, the shot was rock-solid. A world of difference.

Granted, the position of the camera wasn't dead-perfect, which bothers me, but the shot itself was far superior. My guess is that it would have outperformed even a top-end Gitzo, in this particular situation.

This gizmo is definitely worth having in your kit.




This kind of long exposure is probably what they do best (I have the SLR version). Unfortunately, 3-5 second exposures really aren't the best test of stability, since they give the rig time to settle. At shorter speeds, there's still a lot of bounce and mirror slap, and I haven't gotten the sense that the Gorillapods can come close to handling exposures between 1/2 and 1/30th of a second.

They're handy tools, though.



Cableaddict
Registered: Jun 10, 2008
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Ah, but that's where I see a big difference between this focus model, and your DSLR model. The legs still aren't rock solid, but much stiffer.

Stiffer than... you get the idea.



Cableaddict
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pr4photos wrote:
Got an Ebay version. Works a treat. 90% of the time I use it for holding a flash unit though, as I can put a flash in positions where I couldn't before.
Wouldn't be without it!


That's brilliant!

I never thought of that as a possibility, but I use two Speedlights, so it could be fantastic. Thanks for the idea.



Smiert Spionam
Registered: Jan 15, 2008
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Sorry to be such a skeptic -- I'll try to check one out sometime.

I use my SLR with a flash shoe all the time -- it's perfect for that. A couple of times, I've hung a pair of flashes in table lamps indoors (Nikon SB-800 & SB-600). Quick, easy, discrete light for a party -- works great.



jchin
Registered: Jan 02, 2005
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pr4photos wrote:
Got an Ebay version. Works a treat. 90% of the time I use it for holding a flash unit though, as I can put a flash in positions where I couldn't before.
Wouldn't be without it!


Can you share a link to the eBay version?
How much was it?



rachp
Registered: Dec 16, 2004
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pr4photos wrote:
Got an Ebay version. Works a treat. 90% of the time I use it for holding a flash unit though, as I can put a flash in positions where I couldn't before.
Wouldn't be without it!


Do you use the gorillapod flash shoe clip or something else? Thanks.



pr4photos
Registered: Sep 17, 2008
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Country: United Kingdom

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Large-Flexible-Gorillapod-Gripping-Tripod-SLR-ZOOM-DSLR_W0QQitemZ270321337279QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_CameraAccessories_TripodsSupports?hash=item270321337279&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1300|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

very cheap, but it does the jobs i want it to perfectly



chris.maddock
Registered: Jan 23, 2002
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Country: United Kingdom

I have one of those eBay ones but haven't managed to get much confidence in it. Rarely have I managed to get a secure, stable fixing for my 5D/grip/24-105 combination. I was considering the new Gorillapod Focus but was given a TrekTech Optera 460 (http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1029565) for Christmas which seems much better for my needs.

The main advantages I can see with this over a GorillaPod are;
1) it has a cord arrangement which you can use if you wish to reduce the likelihood of the legs trying to splay apart.
2) One leg is longer thn the others so can act as a leg AND double back to give support for the front of the lens.

In my iniitial tests I mounted it in the same places that I hadn't had success with the GorillaPod clone and not only could I get secure stability for the 5D/grip/24-105 combination, but also the same camera with the 100-400 L IS at 400mm.

As you can probably gather I'm pretty impressed - it's certainly worth a look.

KRs
Chris



Cableaddict
Registered: Jun 10, 2008
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Chris,

At first look I was intrigued by that 460. However, I immediately wondered how good it could be, given the price, so I thought a bit:

The main question would be, how stiff is it? It doesn't matter if it has en extra support for the lens, unless the whole dingus is vibration-less. The Gorrillapod focus is close, the Gorrillapod DSLR is not. How's this thing? I'm thinking, if it needs those cords to keep the legs from splaying, then something isn't right. You could probably put 30 lbs onto the Pod Focus without it budging.


Also, the back two legs are very short, so it would likely not work too well for wrapping around tree branches, etc. I think I'd rather have the long legs, vs the lens support.



EB-1
Registered: Jan 09, 2003
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Country: United States

OK, you convinced me to order the Gorilla [url=http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/salmonellatyph.html][url]

EBH



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