double exposure
/forum/topic/723121/0

1
   2   end

Mark Wieland
Registered: Jan 13, 2004
Total Posts: 449
Country: United States

Is there a way to do a double exposure with a digital camera the way we use to do it in the film camera days? If not, why not. I know everyone is going to tell me to do it in Photoshop, but in the architecture world, there are a lot of real simple things I could do "in camera" that would save me time on the computer later. Just to clarify, I want to shoot a picture on a tripod, close the shutter, then change some lighting and shoot again on the same image as before.

Thanks.

Mark



mdphotography
Registered: Mar 02, 2004
Total Posts: 436
Country: Japan

I don't think that any DSLR will allow double exposure. What is the point? PS gives you that ability with much more control. Google- HDR imaging.



Mark Wieland
Registered: Jan 13, 2004
Total Posts: 449
Country: United States

The point is that it can not be too difficult to make a pro camera like my 1ds Mark III capable of doing it, and just trust me on this one, there are effects that are easier and better achieved when done in camera and not in PS when shooting complicated mixed lighting shots.



mdude85
Registered: Apr 12, 2004
Total Posts: 4275
Country: United States

Mark Wieland wrote:
The point is that it can not be too difficult to make a pro camera like my 1ds Mark III capable of doing it, and just trust me on this one, there are effects that are easier and better achieved when done in camera and not in PS when shooting complicated mixed lighting shots.


I think people trust you, it's just that if there is a fairly easy option for this in post-processing, especially one that affords a much higher level of control, then why reinvent the wheel ?



AnthonyRhoades
Registered: Aug 28, 2007
Total Posts: 419
Country: United States

bulb, flash twice.



Don Price
Registered: May 03, 2004
Total Posts: 428
Country: United States

Mark I vote for PS because it's so quick and easy, but saying that,maybe you have found a reason to invest in a film camera, even used.. very basic for this need.. but I will have to say, by the time you precess the film to see if you "got it", or even the time to get it out and do both shoots....PS would have done a great job plus you may have to go to PS on the film scan anyway.
Hold down control, click to highlight both layers,(inCS3) click auto align,
Done...
Happy New Year.. good Luck
Don



bobmiller
Registered: Mar 24, 2005
Total Posts: 482
Country: United States

Multiple exposure option on my Nikon D200 allows up to 10.



Mark Wieland
Registered: Jan 13, 2004
Total Posts: 449
Country: United States

Chalk one up for Nikon



Craig Clark
Registered: Jan 30, 2007
Total Posts: 110
Country: United States

I only now about the nikon d200, 300, & 3, which all have menu items allowing for the 'conventional' multiple exposure.



alanj
Registered: Apr 01, 2008
Total Posts: 104
Country: Canada

AnthonyRhoades wrote:
bulb, flash twice.

+1



gheller
Registered: Apr 30, 2002
Total Posts: 5247
Country: United States

Mark Wieland wrote:
...and just trust me on this one, there are effects that are easier and better achieved when done in camera and not in PS when shooting complicated mixed lighting shots.


give us an example



nathanlake
Registered: May 23, 2005
Total Posts: 6714
Country: United States

Mark Wieland wrote:
The point is that it can not be too difficult to make a pro camera like my 1ds Mark III capable of doing it, and just trust me on this one, there are effects that are easier and better achieved when done in camera and not in PS when shooting complicated mixed lighting shots.



I would disagree that it can be done easily. When the shutter is tripped, the camera produces a file (RAW or JPG). This is done as much by hardware as firmware. In order to create a double exposure, the camera would either need to completely change how it creates files and combine the data of two exposures into one, or somehow merge two files together after they are taken. The first would require significant hardware changes. The second would be a major software change that would add functionality that is non-existent in the current camera environment.



Napalm
Registered: Jan 13, 2005
Total Posts: 606
Country: United Kingdom

Nikon allows double exposure but I don't know if its in the traditional sense.



Mark Wieland
Registered: Jan 13, 2004
Total Posts: 449
Country: United States

The best example is that you can actually see the finished product while you are shooting it and see if not only it is going to work, but more importantly having your client see the end product and sign off on it. As for it not being easy to do, Nikon seems to have it figured out.



c.d.embrey
Registered: Aug 21, 2008
Total Posts: 1146
Country: United States

Mark Wieland wrote:
The best example is that you can actually see the finished product while you are shooting it and see if not only it is going to work, but more importantly having your client see the end product and sign off on it. As for it not being easy to do, Nikon seems to have it figured out.


Finally, a real reason to switch from Canon to Nikon. Will have to look into this!



shatterkiss
Registered: Sep 30, 2004
Total Posts: 3894
Country: United States

This might also be a compelling reason for you to shoot tethered. Shooting to a laptop for immediate client display/rapid comping is sort of the photographer's equivalent of a cinematographer using a video-tap to feed a director's monitor.



Mark Wieland
Registered: Jan 13, 2004
Total Posts: 449
Country: United States

I always shoot tethered. There is nothing like seeing the final image on the spot.



Dennis H.
Registered: May 30, 2006
Total Posts: 1162
Country: United States

I see on page 208 of my Nikon D3 manual it says.
Multiple exposures produce results with colors noticeably better than photographs combined in an imaging application because they make use of RAW data from the camera image sensor.

Hmm will have to try this out and see for myself.



cwebster
Registered: Oct 03, 2005
Total Posts: 3050
Country: United States

Can you actually shoot multiple exposures tethered? And see the results of the combined exposures in real time?

This might make me convert.

<Chas>



shatterkiss
Registered: Sep 30, 2004
Total Posts: 3894
Country: United States

Not to my knowledge, but that would depend on the software you tether with, not the camera. But you can be launching the images straight into Photoshop to make quick comps to check for the effect you want.



1
   2   end