D3x framerate?
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Chris Dees
Registered: Dec 24, 2002
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Someone at DPR wrote the framerate of the D3x is 5fps (FX mode) with 12 bits and only 1.8fps with 14 bits (a bit like the D300).
I'm trying to find out if this tru. If you read the specs about the framerate there is an "*" behind the framerate and at the end of the specs it says "12bits".
At least this makes me think, there looks to be some thruth in it.



BenV
Registered: Jan 01, 2008
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this was all I could find :-(

Top Continuous Shooting Speed at full resolution
FX-format 5 frames per second




CH: Up to 5 frames per second
CL: Up to 4 frames per second
5:4 format
CH: Up to 5 frames per second
CL: Up to 4 frames per second
DX-format
CH: Up to 7 frames per second
CL: Up to 5 frames per secondSingle



lou f
Registered: Nov 18, 2005
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same crap with the sony.



Chris Dees
Registered: Dec 24, 2002
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louis fusco wrote:
same crap with the sony.


If it's tru!



Bruce Sawle
Registered: Sep 26, 2006
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I posted this a few days ago regarding this issue. Seems rather sneaky if true.

The performance specs seem to have a number of asterisk tied to it.

High-speed performance meets the most rigorous professional demands
Just like the D3, the D3X achieves a start-up time of 0.12 second and a shutter release time lag of 0.04 second*1*2. It delivers a continuous shooting speed of approx. 5 frames per second in FX format (36 x 24) or 5:4 (30 x 24), and 7 frames per second in DX format (24 x 16)*2*3. Also, the D3X is fully compatible with UDMA, the new-generation high-speed card that enables 35-Mbyte recording equivalent to the D3. The D3X is capable of recording approx. 7.1 MB (JPEG, image size L, NORMAL) of data captured in FX format at speeds of approx. 5 frames per second


*1: Based on CIPA Guidelines
*2: In 12-bit A/D conversion mode
*3: The maximum frame rate can be chosen using Custom setting d2 [Shooting speed]. The rate is tested under the following conditions: focus mode set to C, exposure mode set to S or M, shutter speed set to 1/250 sec. or faster, with other settings set to default. If VR is on when a VR lens is used, the indicated speed may not be attained. The maximum number of shots at the maximum frame rate is determined by the selected image size and quality. The frame rate slows when the memory buffer fills.



Steve Perry
Registered: Oct 10, 2006
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I was looking at the specs on the PDF file and this is what's listed:

Frame Advance Rate
• DX format (24 x 16): Up to 5 fps (CL) or 5 to 7 fps (CH)
• Other image areas: Up to 5 fps

Now, I had read somewhere that the 7fps DX speed was only avail in 12bit mode, and that 5 to 7 fps above seems to support it. That would be kind of sneaky if you couldn't use it at 5 FPS in 14 bit mode - Canon can do that, can't they?



Bruce Sawle
Registered: Sep 26, 2006
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yes the 1DS MKIII does 5 frames per second in 14bit.



Steve Perry
Registered: Oct 10, 2006
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Whew, Rob says we're good:

"Like the D3, the frame rate of the D3X stays constant when the 14 bit option is selected, up to 5 fps in the case of the new model. To achieve a 7 fps maximum shooting rate in DX Format mode, the camera utilizes 12 bits per colour conversions."

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-9318-9761



James R
Registered: Feb 25, 2006
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Another DPR inaccuracy cleared up. I'm always amazed how people can make claims about cameras they have never used.



Avi B
Registered: Dec 07, 2006
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Well, it is DPR



Engelsen
Registered: Oct 15, 2007
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Country: Norway

In DX crop mode, shooting rates of up to 11 fps (D3) and

7 fps* (D3X)

increase your opportunities of nailing the precise moment you need. For situations that require full resolution, photographers can shoot in FX-format — 9 fps with the D3 and

5 fps* with the D3X

— and rely on full AF and AE performance. The FX-format empowers you and your editors to crop winning shots as necessary and still be able to enlarge them into commercial-quality prints.
And because the D3 and D3X support next-generation UDMA technology, recording speed gets an extra boost, enabling you to shoot more consecutive shots — pivotal to many professional assignments.

* When 12 bit A/D conversion is used.


Notice the little stars here, seems it won´t give you 5fps in 14bit mode.

Source here: http://chsvimg.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/d3/en/features/performance/#/?jsloc=quick_responce



bellyface
Registered: Mar 17, 2003
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i doubt pro's will buy the D3x with the intention of using it as a sports machine gun. This is exactly why there was always a choice... D1h/D1x, D2h/D2x, etc. etc., I wasn't expecting the X to be überfast @ the throat where it swallows those huge files, it was bound to bottleneck there... expect a buffer upgrade...



Engelsen
Registered: Oct 15, 2007
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Agree completely. I don´t think it was ever supposed to be neither fast nor a high iso camera. For that the D3 is out there.

Looking forward to seeing some serious samples and some in depth reviews.



Chris Dees
Registered: Dec 24, 2002
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James R wrote:
Another DPR inaccuracy cleared up. I'm always amazed how people can make claims about cameras they have never used.


I'm still not convinced.
In one of the reply's a Nikon rep tried it out with a demo cam and it was below 2fps



Tim Ashton
Registered: Dec 27, 2006
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Chris Dees wrote:
James R wrote:
Another DPR inaccuracy cleared up. I'm always amazed how people can make claims about cameras they have never used.


I'm still not convinced.
In one of the reply's a Nikon rep tried it out with a demo cam and it was below 2fps


Is that the truth or did you read it on DP Review ??
tim



Nick G Walker
Registered: Jan 25, 2004
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To prevent any further arguments the frame rate is 1.8 in 14 bit.

In DX mode 14 bit = 2.6 fps

Start up goes from 0.4 to 0.6 in 14 bit

http://66.102.9.100/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/camera/slr/digital/d3x/features02.htm&usg=ALkJrhhwuYj3fPs5dbYRtF8a8GzDZ568zA#features1



Chris Dees
Registered: Dec 24, 2002
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Country: Netherlands

Ouch, so it looks to be tru



Sanlameer
Registered: Jun 27, 2006
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The shutter lag also goes from 40ms to 60 ms in 14 bit.



Steve Perry
Registered: Oct 10, 2006
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Well, that kind of sucks if it's true. It's not the end of the world, but dang, you'd think Nikon could at least be on par with Canon after releasing a competing model a year late. At least the AF should work!



gman1339
Registered: Jul 17, 2006
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I'd bet the 16 BIT pipeline has something to do with it. They are going after the ultimate image quality for a 35mm dSLR.



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