So what's so special about this???
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Carmen Miranda
Registered: Dec 22, 2006
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Don't expect Annie's Romeo and Juliet will be showing on the New One Light Set Up thread anytime soon.

Chris_Platt wrote:
I wish I knew how to light a person as well as those shots were done.


A little of their post wizardry wouldn't hurt either.



adamdewilde
Registered: Jul 04, 2005
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I've taken tons of shots way better then those... The thing is, when it comes to shooting a celebrity who has very limited time, they usually go for the tried tested and true photographers. Who BTW, don't get as much as you think shooting for magazines like that. So what does the photographer do, the very minimal simplest thing.

Fast, Effective, Fool-proof photos are the result.
Thats what I'd would do given the opportunity.

It's either that, or you take really bad out of focus and crap lighting shots, but your such a big name that people think its art.


The idea is, not how good you are, but who you know who's willing to give you the opportunity.
A large majority of the weekend shooters on here could do 80% of the work that gets published in magazines.





John Power
Registered: Jul 03, 2003
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My guess is that your comment is the closest to the truth Adam. Probably a simple, straightforward set-up that got the job done. Maybe 2 lights?



BubbaJon
Registered: Sep 24, 2005
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c.d.embrey wrote:
Also take a look at Steven Meisel's spread in Vogue Italia http://www.style.it/cont/home-style/home-style.asp scroll down and click on Vogue photostory Cottage in riva al mare.

Couldn't find the Meisel article - I'm a big fan of his...



BubbaJon
Registered: Sep 24, 2005
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c.d.embrey wrote:
Leibovitz and Meisel are both extremley good. This is high end work, looks simple doesn't it? But things may not be as simple as they look.

I'm not too sure about Annie's shots - soem examples of what we used to call "confused" lighting. In the cover shot for example - Romeo and Juliet are lit from the left - yet you can plainly see the sun in the top right. In #5 of 8 there's a shaft of light coming from the middle back from right yet the fella with the sword is lit from the back left (musta been a gridded light pretty high up). Overall teh pics look great - I just tend to look at shadows analytically...



Carmen Miranda
Registered: Dec 22, 2006
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BubbaJon wrote:
Couldn't find the Meisel article - I'm a big fan of his...


BubbaJon,

It's under the Vogue Photostory.
Pretty heavy on the whacked out overlay animation and Ken Burns effect. Good fun though.




BubbaJon
Registered: Sep 24, 2005
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adamdewilde wrote:
I've taken tons of shots way better then those...

You've heard the joke right?

Q: How many photogarphers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: 100
1 to change the bulb so the other 99 can say "I could have done that, maybe better"....



mmurph
Registered: Apr 18, 2004
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There is a video on the Rolling Stone shoot that talks about their goals, choice of lighting, choice of image for the cover, etc.

Not sure how I feel about most of this, either the pictures or the discussion.

Basically you have highly skilled people who have worked to develop those skills over a number of years. Thery are professionals in many ways - project planning, working with the client, making sure they are always able to deliver, etc.

Similar to your doctor. They may know all kinds of complicated things, but if you go in with a cold, they just treat the cold. Sending you for an oncology consult just isn't something that is required in that situation.



shatterkiss
Registered: Sep 30, 2004
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adamdewilde wrote:
The thing is, when it comes to shooting a celebrity who has very limited time, they usually go for the tried tested and true photographers. Who BTW, don't get as much as you think shooting for magazines like that. So what does the photographer do, the very minimal simplest thing.


I'm not sure if you know who Patrick Demarchelier is - I somewhat doubt he's taking a lot of gigs that are below his asking price, especially ones that aren't prestige pieces. I'd say that he's probably among the 20 most successful commercial photographers currently working.

I agree, though, about going with the tried-and-true when it comes to celebrity shoots. A cover like that probably had more than the requisite 30 minutes that you might get for a feature editorial portrait, I'd guess they had maybe 2 hours with her, but they might have also shot 4 concepts that the magazine's creative staff didn't like for one reason or another. Glamour isn't daring or edgy or terribly sophisticated, and these shots may have been a better match for the article's direction. I'd guess that the images we're looking at are more representative of what the client wanted, in this case, than what the photographer might have wanted to deliver.



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