Small birds, dim light
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Tim Kuhn
Registered: Nov 29, 2006
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I decided to do some further testing off the 50d on the little guys in the backyard in order to hone my skills before heading out needing them!! The sun was rising and the sky was partly cloudy making for variable conditions. There never really was as much light as I would have liked, what better real life way to test higher ISO shooting?

All 50d, 400 5.6L

C&C if you care to.

Tim

1 I did have this one branch with a great fall background, of course the birds avoided it the best they could.

2 Not the best but a fun shot

3 This junco was down in the shadows, black head shadows a good test.

############## Thanks to Dave I have re-posted these with the proper color space########



Tim Kuhn
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4 ISO 2000 in the shadows with some reflected light



KirkB
Registered: Sep 13, 2008
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Hey Tim,

I'm no expert... but these high ISO shotz look really good.
Looks like the 50D handles low light wonderfully, I like 3 and 4 the best.
Not bad at all for test shotz.
Green light man, go make some real wall hangers.

Kirk



Dave In La
Registered: Jul 07, 2006
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really nice stuff sir.
The last one is impressive

You "should" post in sRGB for best viewing by those with non-color managed browsers



ms_yuan
Registered: Jun 13, 2003
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Nice, Tim. Clean and low noise, especially considering these ISO's. Astounding how much progress has been made.



Tim Kuhn
Registered: Nov 29, 2006
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Dave In La wrote:
really nice stuff sir.
The last one is impressive

You "should" post in sRGB for best viewing by those with non-color managed browsers


Dave you are absolutely correct, I'm a dumb @ss. I changed part of my work flow so the conversion to sRGB is not automated, yet.

I will go back and re-post. Thanks for the heads up.
Tim



Tim Kuhn
Registered: Nov 29, 2006
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KirkB wrote:
Hey Tim,

I'm no expert... but these high ISO shotz look really good.
Looks like the 50D handles low light wonderfully, I like 3 and 4 the best.
Not bad at all for test shotz.
Green light man, go make some real wall hangers.

Kirk


Kirk you are very kind. Thanks!!



Thomas Sanders
Registered: Aug 17, 2008
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I see you are having a similar experience to mine on the higher end. Excellent test subjects with excellent results my friend Detail is remarkable on 1 and 4 and the Junco is sweet as well.

Wishing I was out there with you tomorrow Tim.........I know we're gonna see some hella killer shots. Turn that bad boy loose!!!

Tom



Tim Kuhn
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ms_yuan wrote:
Nice, Tim. Clean and low noise, especially considering these ISO's. Astounding how much progress has been made.



Mark, it is amazing! I was just looking at my 5d, a camera that I LOVE and it seems like an old dinasaur

Thanks,

Tim



Tim Kuhn
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Thomas Sanders wrote:
I see you are having a similar experience to mine on the higher end. Excellent test subjects with excellent results my friend Detail is remarkable on 1 and 4 and the Junco is sweet as well.

Wishing I was out there with you tomorrow Tim.........I know we're gonna see some hella killer shots. Turn that bad boy loose!!!

Tom


Thanks so much Tom, your words mean a lot to me. This was my first pushing of this body, shadows in low light, not easy to shoot. I'm happy with the results. Sorry you can't make tomorrow I'm hoping for the best

Tim



Shasoc
Registered: Aug 24, 2005
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Now, Tim, you tell me: isn't more fun to shoot the pretty little ones rather than those ugly old ducks? Great job, my friend. That is a very nice capture you got in the second shot. The third and fourth shots show some really fine detail.
Socrate



surfnron
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
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Looks like you have the 50D tuned in. all are nice, but the detail in 3 & 4 is great ~ Ron



Tim Kuhn
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Geez Socrate, I'm heading out at day break to shoot ugly old ducks!! Then in the afternoon smelly old geese and lazy @ss eagles!!

Yes my good friend, the little ones are fun. I just have to hone my set up so I can attempt to do what you and Ted do.

As always, thank you,

Tim



Karl Witt
Registered: Jul 11, 2007
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Careful my friend, what are you going to do if you get to shoot @ ISO 200 You won't have any experience I am assuming you were hand holding on these shots too, which then makes them even more impressive to me, I know I am not that steady, perhaps I can get the Government to do a bailout for me on my 400 and get me a 500 IS lens

#3 looks very nice both on a good balance of sharpness and a very nice feel in the color. The last shot is very impressive on both color and sharpness but I would tone down the greens in the BG, just too bold for this delicate little burdy IMO #1 is a unique angle but a bit awkward for me and your stunt bird in #2 is pretty cool

If you are yakkin in the morning, may the calmness and light be on your good side

Karl



Tim Kuhn
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surfnron wrote:
Looks like you have the 50D tuned in. all are nice, but the detail in 3 & 4 is great ~ Ron


Thank you Ron, I am enjoying learning this tool. 4 did shock me, it seems between 1000 and 2000 there isn't much difference under the right conditions.

Tim



thehotel
Registered: Jul 18, 2006
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Beautiful set, you done did gooood.


Wacky roger
Founding Member Of OOOPs



Tim Kuhn
Registered: Nov 29, 2006
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Karl Witt wrote:
Careful my friend, what are you going to do if you get to shoot @ ISO 200 You won't have any experience I am assuming you were hand holding on these shots too, which then makes them even more impressive to me, I know I am not that steady, perhaps I can get the Government to do a bailout for me on my 400 and get me a 500 IS lens

#3 looks very nice both on a good balance of sharpness and a very nice feel in the color. The last shot is very impressive on both color and sharpness but I would tone down the greens in the BG, just too bold for this delicate little burdy IMO #1 is a unique angle but a bit awkward for me and your stunt bird in #2 is pretty cool

If you are yakkin in the morning, may the calmness and light be on your good side

Karl



Karl, your critique is almost exactly mine, I almost didn't post these for just those reasons! Man you impress me.

Hand holding; yes no bushhwalk or t-pod
Gvmt bail out sure, give me lenses and ................. well that doesn't belong here

4, almost didn't post it. It like the others are only meant to be examples of what the body can do. I did tone down the bg, that is what made the shot so difficult, BRIGHT bg, bird in shadows, meter all mixed up!!

1 The angle sucks, you are correct sir!!
2 was fun

Thanks for the solid C&C my good friend and thanks for thoughts of smooth water!! Oooh I want that and good light, something so very rare around this time of year.

Tim



GAREN
Registered: Apr 21, 2006
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Hi Tim,
Outstanding high iso result, I loved #4, lets go out and make that camera sing.

Garen



reko
Registered: Jan 04, 2005
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Nice, great detail and color. You're smart to get it together before going out to "need" the skills.



Nello Milanese
Registered: Sep 22, 2007
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Holy macaroni Tim Man ISO 2000 still holds all that detail! I'm impressed maaan!
1st shot has some really sweet light! like the last 2 w the lower angle a lot...specially when I look at the exif and realise what crappy light you had!
Heck I was complaining the other day at ISO 800 1/640s



Mr Zoom
Registered: Jul 03, 2006
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These are pretty impressive given the conditions and settings used, Tim. So, what will you do if you're shooting in the shade on moment at ISO 2000 and in bright light the next moment? I would think you would max out the shutter speed in bright light at that setting and risk underexposing the next shot. Is the ISO accessable via an accessable button for quick adjustments on the 50D?

Zm



Rob Tillyer
Registered: Nov 17, 2007
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Thanks for these Tim, very impressive. Nice to see what that new camera is able to do in capable hands. Hope it can handle ducks out of the yak.

Rob



Tim Kuhn
Registered: Nov 29, 2006
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thehotel wrote:
Beautiful set, you done did gooood.


Wacky roger
Founding Member Of OOOPs



Thank you Mr. OOOPs

Tim



Tim Kuhn
Registered: Nov 29, 2006
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GAREN wrote:
Hi Tim,
Outstanding high iso result, I loved #4, lets go out and make that camera sing.

Garen


Thank you Garen, you're on buddy!!

Tim



Tim Kuhn
Registered: Nov 29, 2006
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reko wrote:
Nice, great detail and color. You're smart to get it together before going out to "need" the skills.


Thanks Robert! I don't know if smart is the correct word

Tim



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