ovredal73 wrote:
A 16-35 plus 85 1.8 would be a good combo.

+1. light and pretty will cover your range.

am now looking at possibly just getting the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM. lots of good reviews and wont need to take any other lenses. not sure how good it is as a landscape lens for those new york views at sunrise though.

85 is meant to be a very good lens but there will still be a gap in my focal range. 35-80mm and ive got the 70-200 which already covers that focal range.

I use the 17-40L on the 1D fairly often in NYC and also the 35L.
Your 16-35L will be fine.
BTW - 1DIII is fantastic, I purchased mine in August from Calumet.

cant wait to get my 1d3 psychic1,
toyed with waiting for the 5d2 but i think the 1d3 from what everyone says is going to give me a really big step up from my 20d.
may need to post some more reviews on here once i get it. "how do I........ "

anyone used the 24-70mm 2.8 L or the 24-105mm f4L is. maybe i can just take one of those rather than 2 lenses.
so much choice...so little cash !

Because I don't find it a great combo on crowded city streets. I have one and I love it, I just never bring it to NYC.

aaronlam wrote:
RGS65 wrote:
You don't need the 70-200.

Wide fast lenses, and maybe a fast 50 and 85 is all you need. Maybe a 135.


Why would you say you wouldn't need the a 70-200?

This is a joke right? You think global warming is effecting NYC snow fall levels

n0b0 wrote:
With all the global warming and stuff, does it still snow in NYC? I mean like proper thick white snow blanketing the city, not just some grey muck with a hint of ice on the ground.

I purchased the 24-70L with the 1DIII and it is on the camera most of the time, but, I haven't been in the city in a while.
I will be attending the Canon Flash Class on Dec 5 then running uptown to shoot the tree.
The 24-70L would be my first choice.
Enjoy.
BTW-32Gig Transcend CF and 16 Gig Transcend SD record over 2400 shots.

n0b0 wrote:
With all the global warming and stuff, does it still snow in NYC? I mean like proper thick white snow blanketing the city, not just some grey muck with a hint of ice on the ground.

The steam pipes running under the city streets do not give the snow much of a life, unless go to Queens, where they plow the snow over your car.

RGS65 wrote:
This is a joke right? You think global warming is effecting NYC snow fall levels


I don't know, that's why I asked.

Wide and Fast.

RGS65 wrote:
Because I don't find it a great combo on crowded city streets. I have one and I love it, I just never bring it to NYC.

aaronlam wrote:
RGS65 wrote:
You don't need the 70-200.

Wide fast lenses, and maybe a fast 50 and 85 is all you need. Maybe a 135.


Why would you say you wouldn't need the a 70-200?


I agree... not so good for crowded streets but good for a lot of other situations... It is one heavy cumbersome sucker but I love the shots out of it...

a few from a trip to Chicago I just got back from:

1DIII w/ 70-200L IS

jaypod wrote:
85 is meant to be a very good lens but there will still be a gap in my focal range. 35-80mm and ive got the 70-200 which already covers that focal range.

While there is a gap in your FR, it all depends on what you shoot most. IMO, while it is a big gap it is not as large as it seems. FWIW I'd take my 16-35 and my 85 without reservation--although I may have a different shooting style than you. As for the whole 70-200 debate, I don't think anyone is arguing that it is a bad lens rather its not the most stealthy lens, specifically for shooting people (not to mention the extra weight). Now if you don't mind people staring at you or lugging around the extra lb's then by all means take it along--its a great lens never the less.

Gorgeous stuff man

aaronlam wrote:
RGS65 wrote:
Because I don't find it a great combo on crowded city streets. I have one and I love it, I just never bring it to NYC.

aaronlam wrote:
RGS65 wrote:
You don't need the 70-200.

Wide fast lenses, and maybe a fast 50 and 85 is all you need. Maybe a 135.


Why would you say you wouldn't need the a 70-200?


I agree... not so good for crowded streets but good for a lot of other situations... It is one heavy cumbersome sucker but I love the shots out of it...

a few from a trip to Chicago I just got back from:

1DIII w/ 70-200L IS

Bring the 16-35 and a fast prime and leave the 70-200L at home!

Don't worry about being robbed in NYC. Use common sense, that's all it takes.

Bring a tripod as well if you want to shoot night skyline pics...not to mention the bridges.

Nick Nishizaka wrote:
Bring a tripod as well if you want to shoot night skyline pics...not to mention the bridges.


You need a permit to use a tripod on the streets/bridges of NYC, you may not be approached about it but you could be. Either way its against NYS law.

?? permit.
how rediculous.

1D+70-200mm="Hey I am a pro, please come talk to me!"
Cops and rent-a-cop will show you lots of love!

rickberk wrote:
You guys are ridiculous. I spend several days a month in NYC and Brooklyn, with gear, including big white lenses, and have yet to have a problem. Just don't be stupid about it, but that's true of anywhere. Go take pictures and have fun.

The 70-200 is an awesome lens to use in the city, but if you don't feel like carrying it, then don't. Definitely have a wide angle choice at hand. And may I suggest a walk across the Brooklyn Bridge to give your camera a stretch... its a different view...

i have to agreee with you....i live here in ny and make my living as a photographer. i shoot with a digital back, a 1ds3 and a nikon camera as well. i, like many other photographers shoot all over the city. i take the same precautions with my gear whether i'm shooting on madison avenue at 60th street in front of the swanky east side retail establishments as i do shooting on madison ave and 116th street in harlem in front of a vacant building.
this is a city where lots of photographers work and live....big ole white lenses attached to cameras here on the streets of new york as well as cameras that are more expensive than the 1d3 or d3, are not as foreign as some people on the internet forums seem to beleive.
as for the police....i routinely travel around the city on particularly on weekend mornings scouting locations for future shoots; sometimes i'm on foot, sometimes i have a lens pointed out of a car window, and i have yet to be stopped or "hasseled" by law enforcement.....
my advice to the op is to come and enjoy! the lens i would consider over a 50 prime would be the 24-105L.....this is the lens that is most often attached to my camera when i am out scoouting and cataloging locations.

M Vers wrote:
Nick Nishizaka wrote:
Bring a tripod as well if you want to shoot night skyline pics...not to mention the bridges.


You need a permit to use a tripod on the streets/bridges of NYC, you may not be approached about it but you could be. Either way its against NYS law.

your comment regarding a pernit is not entirely true: this is an excerpt from the summary on the permit rules that were adopted in august/september:

"A permit is not required for filming that uses hand-held cameras or tripods and does not assert exclusive use of City property. Standing on a street, walkway of a bridge, sidewalk, or other pedestrian passageway while using a hand-held device and not otherwise asserting exclusive use of City property is not an activity that requires a permit.

In addition, activity that involves the filming of a parade, rally, protest or demonstration does not require a permit except when equipment or vehicles are used."
if you would like to read further here is the link:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/film/html/news/070108_moftb_adopts_rules.shtml

thanks for your clarification BKA20d
the 24-105L is a good lnes i believe, why do you only use it for scouting and not for your final shots?

I assume that "exclusive use of CIty property" means not getting in the way of other people?

I'm not sure what that "equipment" means though. How are we going to take photograph or film something without using some sort of photography equipment?

i would think its like alot of laws that are brought in for geeod reason and then taken too far. I think its intention is for film crews and movie makers and not for your average jo wanting to take a snapshot.

jaypod wrote:
thanks for your clarification BKA20d
the 24-105L is a good lnes i believe, why do you only use it for scouting and not for your final shots?
i spoke of the 24-105 in terms of scouting activities because this activity is closest to a tourist walking around the city....the 24-105-- at least my copy is simply stellar , and it is the zoom lens that i use most often in the studio when i shoot canon ... i do use it for location shoots, but a lot of times i am partial to primes as i want a shallower dof.

n0b0 wrote:
I assume that "exclusive use of CIty property" means not getting in the way of other people?

I'm not sure what that "equipment" means though. How are we going to take photograph or film something without using some sort of photography equipment?

think of the "non assertion of exclusive use " language as not significantly blocking the sidewalk so that the only way people can get around you is to cross the street or not blocking ingress or egress to establishments...

as for what constitutes equipment, they are not talking about hand held cameras and tripods, but rather lights, dolly tracks, microphones, booms. electrical and grip equipment, and other production related items which impact access to sidewalks and streets... the rules in nyc not only cover still photography, but video and filming as well....