New Leica S system 30x45mm
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brainiac
Registered: Nov 22, 2005
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/29782425@N08/2879015170/sizes/l/

Don't know if this is real yet - thanks to Marbrink for the heads up.



louis fusco
Registered: Nov 18, 2005
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must be fake the link doesn't work...



brainiac
Registered: Nov 22, 2005
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louis fusco wrote:
> must be fake the link doesn't work...


That was just the FM parser choking on the @ symbol in the url. I've tricked it now.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29782425@N08/2879015170/sizes/l/



Tariq Gibran
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If true, this could be a game changer for Leica I believe. It's hard to believe that they could pull something this big off. A whole new format and lens system. That had to be expensive! I think what will make or break this thing is timing. They need to come to market with this thing now. Not in one or two years. Guesses on price? Body: 30K Lenses: 10-15K ea. Any players?



louis fusco
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sounds like the leica nikon tie up is true so, leica this month, nikon in feburary with 25% more res.



Stu Warner
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This looks waaay cool for pros... but is clearly beyond the needs and budgets of ammateurs like myself.



brainiac
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It's interesting the aspect ratio is 3:2. Seems very plausible - Leica are justly proud of making that ratio a standard.



Tariq Gibran
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Are you saying that Nikon will introduce a camera in this same format? I know there has been a rumor floating around about that. Canon as well. If we end up with the same lens mount and Leica, Nikon and Canon producing lenses and bodies, the traditional MF systems are dead! But then, Leica will end up having to compete with Nikon and Canon? That seems like that would be tough.

louis fusco wrote:
sounds like the leica nikon tie up is true so, leica this month, nikon in feburary with 25% more res.



louis fusco
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from lots of trawling, yep. the mount to film distance will allow f mount adapters for yes you've guessed it f mount lenses. i guess they'll use less of the sensor. humm which probably means the new r will be a rebadged d700?



Tariq Gibran
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I would expect that Nikon would introduce new, larger lenses and not use 35mm F lenses at all.

louis fusco wrote:
from lots of trawling, yep. the mount to film distance will allow f mount adapters for yes you've guessed it f mount lenses. i guess they'll use less of the sensor. humm which probably means the new r will be a rebadged d700?



brainiac
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louis fusco wrote:
from lots of trawling, yep. the mount to film distance will allow f mount adapters for yes you've guessed it f mount lenses. i guess they'll use less of the sensor. humm which probably means the new r will be a rebadged d700?


Prima facie it doesn't seem to make sense to put F mount lenses on a 30x45mm camera, but when you consider that it has 37 megapixels, I suppose the F image circle covers a lot of pixels.



louis fusco
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i would think so too.



jjlphoto
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Only makes sense. Seems the upper limit on what a 24mm x 36mm sensor has been reached with current CCD/CMOS technology. However, the 30 x 45 aspect ratio is quite odd. 1:1.5. Same as current FF 35mm which was always under fire for being too wide and often cropped.

With the commercial photography market tailored to tabloid ratio of 1:1.3, such as all the medium format systems, it is strange to select such an antiquated aspect ratio.



louis fusco
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well nikon is very fond of it's f mount.



louis fusco
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jjlphoto wrote:
Only makes sense. Seems the upper limit on what a 24mm x 36mm sensor has been reached with current CCD/CMOS technology.


of if shooters want to use longer lenses and get a wider field of view. fast shooting mf.



kleinssz69
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Any mathematicians here? Am curious about the pixel pitch as compared to the 5D and 40D.



ulrikft
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http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/22/leica-debuts-s-system-37-megapixel-flagship-s2-camera/



Jammy Straub
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So am I seriously wrong in guessing this is going to be more than a H3D-39 system?



Tariq Gibran
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I bet it will be.

Jammy Straub wrote:
So am I seriously wrong in guessing this is going to be more than a H3D-39 system?



Tariq Gibran
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Geez! They just directly quoted the magazine article and used their pic. I hope this is not a huge hoax!

ulrikft wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/22/leica-debuts-s-system-37-megapixel-flagship-s2-camera/



brainiac
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kleinssz69 wrote:
Any mathematicians here? Am curious about the pixel pitch as compared to the 5D and 40D.


javascript:alert((h=Math.pow(37000000 * 2/3, .5)) + ' x ' + h * 1.5 + ' at a pixel pitch of ' + 30000/h)

paste that in your browser address bar and hit return



ulrikft
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
Geez! They just directly quoted the magazine article and used their pic. I hope this is not a huge hoax!

ulrikft wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/22/leica-debuts-s-system-37-megapixel-flagship-s2-camera/




http://www.kamerabild.se/artikel/37_megapixel_i_spegelreflex_fran_leica_080922150359-833.html

Seems real enough, I guess we'll know soon


WAAY out of my price league in any possible form or shape anyhow :P



brainiac
Registered: Nov 22, 2005
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OK - 6 microns, about 4966 x 7450 pixels. The real thing will be different because it probably isn't exactly 37 megapixel, but that's a rough guide.



Tariq Gibran
Registered: Oct 01, 2006
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Yep, nothing I could afford either.

ulrikft wrote:
Tariq Gibran wrote:
Geez! They just directly quoted the magazine article and used their pic. I hope this is not a huge hoax!

ulrikft wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/22/leica-debuts-s-system-37-megapixel-flagship-s2-camera/




http://www.kamerabild.se/artikel/37_megapixel_i_spegelreflex_fran_leica_080922150359-833.html

Seems real enough, I guess we'll know soon


WAAY out of my price league in any possible form or shape anyhow :P



Ronan O Keeffe
Registered: Sep 15, 2006
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There's a link on this page about it http://www.professionalphotographer.co.uk/ but it just re-directs back to the page you're on. No info to be had.

I just googled the magazine that the pic was taken from.



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