You can buy either the battery grip or the transmitter grip, not both in one.

PetKal wrote:
snowboarder wrote:
Comparing to 5D:

- The same AF as 5D, they didn't even use the new AF from 50D


I believe the 5DII will have the 40/50D AF system type (+aux AF points) which is an improvement over 5D I.


No, it's very clearly stated:

"Somewhat surprisingly, Canon has not adopted the 40D/50D's AF system which, on paper, is superior, given that all nine of its AF points are cross-type."

snowboarder wrote:
Comparing to 5D:

- The same shutter, mirror and most everything else you find inside the mirror box
- Shutter lag remains almost identical, at a Canon-specified 73ms
- The same AF as 5D, they didn't even use the new AF from 50D
- maximum frame rate is 3.9 fps and the buffer is 14 RAW frames

I'm glad at least they used the new LCD!



since people were saying digic4 should deliver 21MP at just about 5fps and taking the above maybe the fps are mechanically limited by using the old shutter and mirror?!?!
i would like to think they didn purposefully cripple the fps by re-using the old mechanical parts!
they could've at least improved the blackout and stuff... after three years.

What do I need 21MP for

skibum5 wrote:
snowboarder wrote:




since people were saying digic4 should deliver 21MP at just about 5fps and taking the above maybe the fps are mechanically limited by using the old shutter and mirror?!?!
i would like to think they didn purposefully cripple the fps by re-using the old mechanical parts!
they could've at least improved the blackout and stuff... after three years.



Canon has notoriously crippled their cameras to protect their more expensive models, usually through firmware.

skibum5 wrote:
fugu wrote:
From RG:

The 5D Mark II's sensor also features the same light-gathering area within each pixel (called the fill ratio) and same microlens coverage over each pixel as the company's current flagship.

no gapless sensor?

wow I seriosuly hope that is a typo and they didnt hold even the sensor back for the 1dsmkiv.

if they held back gapless microlenses and coupled that with exact same AF as 5D and 4fps, after three years? and still won't have it out until as late as late novemember?



Let's hope this is a mistake. It's almost impossible to believe.

ajkessler wrote:
The non-gapless sensor would be a joke, unless they're just using the same sensor as the 1ds3 as I suspected earlier...

If it's indeed a new sensor, and not just a firmware update, wouldn't 1ds3 users be clamoring for a sensor swap?


if after three years we waited and the only thing upgraded is the sensor and even that is reused from over a year ago... wow they still dont get it.
at leat they could've not held back on the sensor from us.
i hope that is just some mistake.

snowboarder wrote:
PetKal wrote:
snowboarder wrote:
Comparing to 5D:

- The same AF as 5D, they didn't even use the new AF from 50D


I believe the 5DII will have the 40/50D AF system type (+aux AF points) which is an improvement over 5D I.


No, it's very clearly stated:

"Somewhat surprisingly, Canon has not adopted the 40D/50D's AF system which, on paper, is superior, given that all nine of its AF points are cross-type."

I don't know what you are reading. However, the specs on Canon Web Site says "9 AF sensors (cross type)"

Napalm wrote:
tomdos wrote:
I am, however, suprised that EF-S lenses will work. Will be curious to read what the sensor scales down to with a crop lens mounted.

That's a mistake, surely

It's possible...the D700 allows it. Why not add it and scale back a portion of the sensor that is used.

I'd trade the gapless omission for an "error" on the EF-S lens usability.

coolyota wrote:
jamato8 wrote:
For some of the events in my visual anthropology I would love the video for shorts. I don't understand though about the 4gb. What is the maximum storage for the camera?

Wiki:
he maximum possible size for a file on a FAT32 volume is 4 GB minus 1 "null" byte (232−1 bytes). Video applications, large databases, and some other software easily exceed this limit.

Ah, too bad. Thanks for the info.

Fred Miranda wrote:
• Compatible with over 60 Canon EF/EF-S lenses and most EOS System accessories.


I'm pretty sure this is a typo on Canon's part. If you look at pictures of the camera there's no white square on the mount of the camera for EF-S lenses.

PetKal wrote:
snowboarder wrote:
PetKal wrote:
snowboarder wrote:
Comparing to 5D:

- The same AF as 5D, they didn't even use the new AF from 50D


I believe the 5DII will have the 40/50D AF system type (+aux AF points) which is an improvement over 5D I.


No, it's very clearly stated:

"Somewhat surprisingly, Canon has not adopted the 40D/50D's AF system which, on paper, is superior, given that all nine of its AF points are cross-type."

I don't know what you are reading. However, the specs on Canon Web Site says "9 AF sensors (cross type)"



http://robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-9316-9603

skibum5 wrote:
ajkessler wrote:
The non-gapless sensor would be a joke, unless they're just using the same sensor as the 1ds3 as I suspected earlier...

If it's indeed a new sensor, and not just a firmware update, wouldn't 1ds3 users be clamoring for a sensor swap?


if after three years we waited and the only thing upgraded is the sensor and even that is reused from over a year ago... wow they still dont get it.
at leat they could've not held back on the sensor from us.
i hope that is just some mistake.


How is putting the sensor from an $8000 camera into the body of a $2700 camera holding back from us?

Napalm wrote:
tomdos wrote:
I am, however, suprised that EF-S lenses will work. Will be curious to read what the sensor scales down to with a crop lens mounted.

That's a mistake, surely

According to dpreview the 5D2 only accepts ef lenses, not efs.

Looks like a landscape/commercial cam to me... 21MP is overkill for weddings and every day usage. It remains slow (FPS) and it seems the AF from the 40D/50D has found its way into the 5D2. So sports and wildlife shooting is out of the question also. Not as allround as I would like it to be. I think I will stick with my 1Ds3

I'm buying. Wife's 40D has to go, no more croppers.

I wonder how hard it would be to sell all my Canon gear and go Nikon? I can't believe they haven't updated the foucus system in 3 years. As someone else said, let's hope that's a reporting mistake!

CMOS wrote:
I wonder how hard it would be to sell all my Canon gear and go Nikon?
If the answer can wait for some time, I'll tell you..

going with my gut about another body...a global surprise at photokina
still a gap between 5dmk2 and a 1series...think 3D

Daan B wrote:
Looks like a landscape/commercial cam to me... 21MP is overkill for weddings and every day usage. It remains slow (FPS) and it seems the AF from the 40D/50D has found its way into the 5D2. So sports and wildlife shooting is out of the question also. Not as allround as I would like it to be. I think I will stick with my 1Ds3

If I'm not mistaken, that's what sRaw is for? On the new 5D Mark II you can choose 10mp or 5mp. Plus you get the benefits of the low noise high iso sensor. I'll be shooting weddings with it. And for my portrait work, we occasionally sell 30x40's, and often sell 24x30's. The extra resolution will be welcomed for that.

Does it have the Micro Adjustment feature?

D700 still a better camera
At $2699, the price is right, though - will be $2400 with rebates come April '09 and even lower next fall.
The 5D truly lives with this new incarnation.

does your FPS change if you use sRAW..if so you could use it for sports

Daan B wrote:
Does it have the Micro Adjustment feature?

I read that it does, which is great.

for us landscape shoots...this is less than HALF the price of the flagship and what it will be stellar camera.

weather sealing..use a ziplock bag around it.