The canon site states it is compatible with both EF and EF-S lenses - full frame and EF-S lenses?

Can someone mirror the sample videos somewhere in the US? The canon.jp website is horridly slow.

Also, re: specs - I was hoping they would release something that would just trounce Nikon. Unfortunately, it seems that the D700 is still a very attractive package. I have a 30D and ~2.5k in glass, so I probably won't be switching any time soon; however, I really really want Canon to step up the plate and kick some ass.

Good grief, finally the rumor saying "17th" got it...

Now, let's get the 5D Mark III, 1Ds/1D Mark IV, and 60D thread started.

let me repost VF. Canon site is dead for me

ulrikft wrote:
Ok, I have to admit a few things:

50d = af micro adjust? 5d mkII? Not so much.. why?
"upgraded weather sealing" means?

can't wait for the first hands on previews I suspect and hope that the image quality and noise/iso-quality will be great! I hope that improved weather sealing means that I can take it with me a few places i did not dare bring my 30d :P



The 5DII has the AF micro-adjust

Also, the HD video capture feature is interesting...I could see uses for it, and it could certainly be quite neat for shallow DOF / low light fun. I have 2 questions though:

1) Recording time - 4GB will be quickly reached @ 1920x1080x30fpsx8bits (or whatever)...are we looking at an actual max clip time of 10-15 mins, as opposed to 30?

2) Shutter - I am assuming the shutter does not actuate during video recording? (I know nothing about video, sorry). Do they employ some sort of "digital shutter"?

Seems like they shaved off all these little details just so that it wouldnt make the 1Ds3 look bad - 98% viewfinder, 3.9fps, not quite weathersealed

Yohan Pamudji wrote:
Richie S wrote:
I guess they've filled the exact same niche as the 5D haven't they.

Great sensor ...... and ....... errrrr..... video.

Yep. No answer to the D700. Too bad.

yeah i guess canon is just never gonna do it.
not sure they get it since now some comments one guy told me about their thoughts about this, which i didnt believe then, are true.

i might still have given it a try but the release date is not until....
the entire darn fall sports season is totally over.
oh well i surely wont be tempted to guinea pig it now.
simply arrives way too late to be of any use for me
which is in some ways a worse thing than 4 fps, since you can live with that, but not being out means 0 fps and that doesn't exactly work .

even a month earlier release woulda caught enough of the sports season to tempt me (and perhaps all the others doing action). Oh well. gotta reset my sites on just living with my 40D for now or temporarily giving the 50D a try. Woulda loved to see the gapless FF pull off ISO3200 sports this fall though on those terribly lit fields.

i've always wondered the timing of these photokidna releases since they always arrive too late to catch the fall leaf peeping shooting and the entire fall sports season and the entire summer travel season. always seemed like a very weird time to release cameras.

maybe i'll give it a look at the start of february, unless it ends up arriving early. i think the 40D did end up coming out almost a month earlier than the first press release hinted at.

the sensor should be amazing, the movie mode is really cool.

the other specs are either very poor or perhaps poor and nothing like the text was promising on the japanese site or the big build up and shows nothing about them changing strategy with bodies to match nikon.

not that the D700 doesnt have one big issue itself and that is that at 12MP and FF you do lose lots of reach which can be rough for sports since a 400 2.8 costs waayyyyy more than a 300 2.8. so for the amateur but very serious action photographer none of the options are quite there, oh well.

(9+6 AF is action potentially greaty for action since all you need is for teh assist to be packed near the middle, the question is is it a sad digic driven AF of the xxD and 5D or did they give it an AF chip so it can use the points effectively? it could be anywhere from very disappointing to truly excellent, depending)

(4fps is too slow to really grab multiple caps from a singel action set, 5 is absolute minimum and 6.5 really).

it should be a really fabulous non-action cam though.
and aside from rather weak in the buffer and fps, if the AF has been much tuned up, could be a liveable 'poor'-man's action cam of sorts.

HURRY! We have no time for spellchek!1111

Hey.Underpants wrote:
AWESOME.

" The 5D Mark II's sensor also features the same light-gathering area within each pixel (called the fill ratio) and same microlens coverage over each pixel as the company's current flagship.
"

wait what does he mean same micro lens coverage??
we waited three years and they still didnt get the latest sensor generation in? no gapless

wow, i hope i'm reading that wrong. if they held back gapless and its same AF and 4fps....

Dan1 wrote:
Seems like they shaved off all these little details just so that it wouldnt make the 1Ds3 look bad - 98% viewfinder, 3.9fps, not quite weathersealed


I agree... At the very least I would have liked to have seen an increase in FPS with lesser resolution. I also wish it had a pop-up flash. It was great for fill in on the 20d.

Somewhat of a letdown, but if the IQ is there, I can look past a lot of stuff. Canon is claiming the 5dII to have the best IQ of all current SLRs. We shall see.

I also hope that AI Servo doesnt produce banding like it did with the 5d.

johnny

Late November!!!! I needed it by late October. Might be my only grip about it, as this is going to be a hell of a camera, just like the 5D was from all accounts, never mind Sony this and Nikon that.

400d wrote:
HURRY! We have no time for spellchek!1111



Who cares if they can spell or not, hopefully this camera won't disappoint once we get our hands on it

m_appeal wrote:
Etadam wrote:
Question: by how much the price of the D700 will be affected?


You can already get it for 2729 at Canoga.

I live a few miles from Canoga and was in there this weekend. I asked about D700 sales, as the sales person had just shown one to a prospective customer. I was surprised to have him tell me that sales have been way lower than they expected. He said demand has just been low; their best theory was that most people wanted the new 5D and knew it would be out soon, so they were holding off.

Jeff

Good morning everybody. Did not here my clock ring.

As far I see till now its amazing. It gives me everything I was hoping for. At a great price, too. I would love to see the ISO 3200/6400 images.
But except that:

You where right EOSfun!

(9+6 AF is action potentially greaty for action since all you need is for teh assist to be packed near the middle, the question is is it a sad digic driven AF of the xxD and 5D or did they give it an AF chip so it can use the points effectively? it could be anywhere from very disappointing to truly excellent, depending)





From Rob Galbraith's site:

The 5D and 5D Mark II share one other notable AF hardware similarity: both utilize a dedicated microprocessor to perform AF calculations (in contrast, Canon's Mark III models, for example, utilize DIGIC III for this).

The Canon 5DII was just released. Please continue this discussion on the new master thread:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/688320

Thanks!

Yianni wrote:
[ I also wish it had a pop-up flash. It was great for fill in on the 20d.

Somewhat of a letdown, but if the IQ is there, I can look past a lot of stuff.johnny



It has a built in flash.

Japanese site with samples of pictures and movies :
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/5dmark2/index.html

is that the same 9 point AF system? (i really hope not.) still, this speaks well for the future of digital photography (for enthusiasts).

the cheapest phase one medium format setup is still $8,999. Having 20+ megapixel FF canon body in reach of the enthusiast is a nice bridging of the gap - until lower-megapixel medium format comes down to the (new) price of the current D3 or 1D3.

the original 5D was $3400 when it came out. the 5dMkII will be $2700 on release. Again, this speaks very well for the next generation.

skibum5 wrote:
Hey.Underpants wrote:
AWESOME.

" The 5D Mark II's sensor also features the same light-gathering area within each pixel (called the fill ratio) and same microlens coverage over each pixel as the company's current flagship.
"

wait what does he mean same micro lens coverage??
we waited three years and they still didnt get the latest sensor generation in? no gapless

wow, i hope i'm reading that wrong. if they held back gapless and its same AF and 4fps....


It's got all the latest sensor tech and gapless microlens array and a newer RGB array than 1Ds III. It's an evolution of the 1Ds III sensor

LAPhotoPro.com wrote:
Yianni wrote:
[ I also wish it had a pop-up flash. It was great for fill in on the 20d.

Somewhat of a letdown, but if the IQ is there, I can look past a lot of stuff.johnny



It has a built in flash.


It does not have flash. What pictures are you looking at?

Ralph Conway wrote:
Good morning everybody. Did not here my clock ring.

As far I see till now its amazing. It gives me everything I was hoping for. At a great price, too. I would love to see the ISO 3200/6400 images.
But except that:

You where right EOSfun!

Not totally

eosfun wrote:
Nah, keep the EOSfun. Trust and you will see: the next camera is no 1DsIII You will be happy and even though a lot of 5D owners will be happy too for the ability to upgrade...

I don't see any mention of AF during video capture.
Does anyone have any info on this?

And how about the gapless microlens?
I don't see any mention of that too...

The microlens link was mentioned above. I think it was a taiwan site.

This sealing looks enough for me, too.

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/03.html#03