Wild or Domestic?
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surf monkey
Registered: May 24, 2005
Total Posts: 56
Country: United States

Lions at the San Diego Wild Animal Park. Morning, backlit.
I don't really think that these animals are wild or natural, but I wouldn't want to be inside with them.

Comments & critiques welcome.
I think that #1 may have been overprocessed. This was inspired by Steven Rood's animal portraits.

#1 taken with a Canon 20D and Canon 300f4is, no filter, 1/1,000 sec, f4
#2 taken with a Canon 40D and Canon 300f4is, no filter, 1/500 sec, f4
#3 taken with a Canon 40D and Canon 300f4is, no filter, 1/400 sec, f4



Lil Judd
Registered: Oct 19, 2007
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Country: United States

I love # 2 & 3, but something feel "off" with # 1 - - something about the mane, his face is stunning, but - - I don't know how to put it. Something just feels "off"

But you caught some beautiful moments.

Lil



surf monkey
Registered: May 24, 2005
Total Posts: 56
Country: United States

Lil Judd, I know what you mean.
I think it's the high contrast of the light hairs of the mane right of the face.
That's just the way the contrast came out after converting to b&w in Photoshop.
I think I'll try to reduce the contrast on the light parts.
The overall feel needs to be softened a bit.

Thanks for the input.



Lil Judd
Registered: Oct 19, 2007
Total Posts: 6647
Country: United States

I have any idea for you.

I love the face, it's the mane that just came out - - - "off"....

Maybe some selective blur of the mane would help - - worth trying....

# 2 is just wonderful - - no one would know that's a "zoo" setting...

Lil



mabidally
Registered: May 11, 2006
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Country: Sri Lanka

No1 is a beautiful conversion, perhaps pixellating a bit.



anthony whitmo
Registered: May 29, 2007
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Country: United States

Super job
Great images
Well done

Ant



Brenton Biggs
Registered: Mar 07, 2007
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Country: United States

These are great! I do too really enjoy the first image



milmoejoe
Registered: Mar 08, 2005
Total Posts: 615
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#1 is definitely a lifetime keeper shot, congrats! Blow it up on some canvas and enjoy it!



90 5.0
Registered: Jul 08, 2008
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I absolutely love #1, If I had taken that it would be blown up and hanging on my wall in the entryway in my house!!



Paul Walden
Registered: Mar 04, 2007
Total Posts: 129
Country: Australia

#1 and #2 are tops! Don't have any real issues with the mane - looks a bit lithographic, I think.

All lions in 1 and 2 seem to be thoughtful; to me, they have very emotional facial expressions. The big male is clearly letting his mind wander, and get a load of the body language of the female. I think you managed to capture personalities here. Good work!

Cheers,
Paul



surf monkey
Registered: May 24, 2005
Total Posts: 56
Country: United States

Two new versions for #1.
Slight blur to the mane. Reduced contrast. I didn't want to do too much.
B is slightly darker than C.

At this small scale and on my monitor, I'm not sure which one I like more.
I guess that I'll have to print it and put it on a wall to really find out.
Any votes for your favorite?

Thanks, everyone for the input.



Karl Witt
Registered: Jul 11, 2007
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Country: United States

I'm sticking with #1 and I think it is just grrrrrrrrrreat! I love the mood that it evokes as well as the tonal qualities. If there were just a wee bit more eye contact it would be spectacular. I also like #2 just fine and would love to see #3 the same way. A very nice way of presentation IMO

Karl



shelleyc
Registered: Jan 31, 2005
Total Posts: 8565
Country: Canada

I like each and every one of these ... all of them are just great. I actually love all of these... couldn't pick a favorite. Great job.



Genes Home
Registered: Mar 12, 2008
Total Posts: 348
Country: United States

Like the first one..............large and on canvas if you can afford it.

one of the best B&W of anything I have seen in a long time.

Definately one to be proud of, regardless of where it was taken.

REALLY great work.



Tim Kuhn
Registered: Nov 29, 2006
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Country: United States

Number 1 is number 1. Very well done.

Tim



Alistair Watson
Registered: Mar 21, 2005
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Country: United Kingdom

I really like # 2 and 3, particularly 3, it makes me smile!

# 1 reminds me of that Dragan (sp?) filter look, maybe there is just too much mane! Great portrait though.



RT v Genugten
Registered: Mar 13, 2007
Total Posts: 1632
Country: Netherlands

Number 1 is number 1, to say it in Tim's words,
But this accounts also for number 2 and number 3!

Excellent work!

nb, I don't think there is something like a domestic lion, these animals are wild and stay wild, never forget that! (well, my cat might be a domestic lion, come to think of it )

RT.



Raindrop_333
Registered: Jun 30, 2008
Total Posts: 2008
Country: United States

All 3 are gorgeous, but I'm really drawn to the first one most So dramatic.

Jenna



PaulCal
Registered: Dec 08, 2006
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Country: Canada

#2 does it for me. Very nice

Did you shoot in B&W or just PS it that way?

Paul



surf monkey
Registered: May 24, 2005
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Country: United States

Paul,

Thanks for the nice comments.

I shoot everything in RAW with a small JPEG.
I use the RAW (color) file for anything I want to adjust. I use the JPEGs mostly for emailing and web.
All my post work is done in Photoshop CS3.
I've recently changed my b&w conversion process by using the excellent black & white adjustment layer. It's a huge time saver over my older methods. Then I apply the sepia with a hue/saturation adjustment.
I'm not a photographer by trade, I'm a graphic designer - so I use the standard design tools.



surf monkey
Registered: May 24, 2005
Total Posts: 56
Country: United States

Hey Lil Judd,

Do you prefer the original or the new variations of #1?
Just wondering since you have the same "issue" with the mane that I do.
I think I might have to print it large to see if one is better than the others.

Thanks again for the input.



surf monkey
Registered: May 24, 2005
Total Posts: 56
Country: United States

Final version.

Thanks everyone all the comments and critiques.



Doug Bentlage
Registered: Nov 01, 2006
Total Posts: 8193
Country: United States

Definitely like your final version best, beautiful shot! Large canvas sounds good!

Doug



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