Canon 5D and red colors.
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lou
Registered: Jan 05, 2002
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Country: United States

Hi everyone,
I have found that the 5D and I think digital in general do not like the color red. I recently had a fashion shoot and the model wore a brilliant red gown. I shoot raw and I tried to process the photos first in CS3 and the red was washed out. I have the latest Camera Raw 4.5 (beta). I also tried my old faithful Capture one, close but no cigar. I finally tried the conversion in my version 1.42 of Breeze Browser and then I got the correct red.

What have you found when you process brilliant reds. Can you suggest any other program.

Louis



paulhodson
Registered: Jul 22, 2003
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Country: United Kingdom

Digital sensors are very sensitive to bright reds (and yellows) - they very often blow out.



Chuck Fry
Registered: Jun 07, 2005
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Country: United States

Check out the new ACR 4.5 and the revised camera profiles from Adobe. They were intended to fix reds on Canon bodies, among other things. I haven't yet tried them - still waiting for my boxed copy of Lightroom 2 final.



lou
Registered: Jan 05, 2002
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Country: United States

Chuck Fry wrote:
Check out the new ACR 4.5 and the revised camera profiles from Adobe. They were intended to fix reds on Canon bodies, among other things. I haven't yet tried them - still waiting for my boxed copy of Lightroom 2 final.


Hi Chuck, i am working with the 4.5 version and its worse than the previous versions.

thanks for the reply.

lou



digitalgene
Registered: Jan 26, 2006
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Country: United States

In ACR 4.5 you must download the new beta camera profiles from Adobe (new last week).

Selecting the beta standard works much better for me.



lou
Registered: Jan 05, 2002
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digitalgene wrote:
In ACR 4.5 you must download the new beta camera profiles from Adobe (new last week).

Selecting the beta standard works much better for me.



thank you gene.

lou



shirozina
Registered: May 22, 2006
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Also try Canon's own DPP with the 'Faithful' rendering. I read somewhere that Canon's sensors do not have very strong colour filters over the RGB sensor sites - this is to maximise light transmission but is at the expense of colour fidelity - could be BS as it was from a MF digital company man.



shirozina
Registered: May 22, 2006
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WOW - I've just downloaded the ACR beta camera profiles - at last they have got their act together and we now have the possibility of descent colour output!



lou
Registered: Jan 05, 2002
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I am curious as to what raw conversion program BreezeBrowser is using. I know chris did not code it himself?

lou



semillerimages
Registered: Jan 12, 2003
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Gotta add another wow for the camera profiles located at http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles - the color rendering is now dead on to what DPP will do... with really minor differences. This is for my 1dsmark2 by the way.
This is definitely a step up for ACR and no doubt a reverse engineer coup for the ACR programmers!

*steve



phil hawkins
Registered: Apr 25, 2006
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Can we see an example of what you're talking about?

Edited by phil hawkins on Aug 06, 2008 at 06:41 AM GMT



lou
Registered: Jan 05, 2002
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Hi again, I downloaded and install the new profile and the color is dead on. thanks for all your help. wow, what a difference

lou



semillerimages
Registered: Jan 12, 2003
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Country: United States

Well Phil,I think this is really something you should try out for yourself...
I happen to use DPP for 98% of what I process, with the remaining 2% alloted to those files that are just a little bit more tricky to deal with... and it's a bonus to have the extra flexability of ACR with the color rendering of DPP... so that is why I happen to find it amazing. Try it yourself, and let yourself be the judge

*steve



shirozina
Registered: May 22, 2006
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All they need to do now is fix the crude demosaicing algorithm and ACR with be the king of RAW processors



Chuck Fry
Registered: Jun 07, 2005
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shirozina wrote:
All they need to do now is fix the crude demosaicing algorithm and ACR with be the king of RAW processors


What's so crude about it? Other than the fact that it isn't omniscient, that is.



shirozina
Registered: May 22, 2006
Total Posts: 1194
Country: United Kingdom

Chuck Fry wrote:
shirozina wrote:
All they need to do now is fix the crude demosaicing algorithm and ACR with be the king of RAW processors


What's so crude about it? Other than the fact that it isn't omniscient, that is.
It's got bad anti aliasing on detail with diagonal lines - well DPP is the same, C1 seems to do it better.



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