Just out of curiosity, I'm posting a poll to see Windows (PC) vs Mac owners. To keep it simple, I am excluding Unix, Linux, etc. You guys can go sit in the corner.

I bailed on PC's just over a year ago, now own 3 Mac's, and I've never looked back. I feel like a bonehead for not having made the change years sooner, although I'll admit that Mac's seem to have matured quite a bit in the past few years.

Ben Horne wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I'm posting a poll to see Windows (PC) vs Mac owners. To keep it simple, I am excluding Unix, Linux, etc. You guys can go sit in the corner.

Which do you use? Are you justifying a "switch?"

Long time Windows user, just moved to a Mac Pro and l am loving it!

I have always used Windows but never again. It is just way too unstable and I am sick-n-tired of all the viruses and pc invasions you get with the OS.
If I ever get another PC it will be a Mac.

you do realize that as macs become more popular that they too will become targets (and slowly are too). and no there is no built in superimmunity there. at this point just not as fun to do for the darkside because the overall kill is small. stability wise any system is what you make of it. i can kill a mac as fast as a windows setup and proven it in a matter od seconds. the results are just the same.
the fact is is that at this point the most secure and stable is linux. the reason there is the same lack of caring for those who do what they do.

there is no security that is written that cannot be breached with a little thought and effort.

PC and Linux.

Westvleteren wrote:
Ben Horne wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I'm posting a poll to see Windows (PC) vs Mac owners. To keep it simple, I am excluding Unix, Linux, etc. You guys can go sit in the corner.

Which do you use? Are you justifying a "switch?"


I've been all Mac for about 4 years now. Prior to that, I had used only PCs. I'm just curious about the FM population.

Ben Horne wrote:
I am excluding Unix, Linux, etc. You guys can go sit in the corner.

+1 for Macs!!!

Mac, and Linux / OSX depending on tasks.

dcains wrote:
I bailed on PC's just over a year ago, now own 3 Mac's, and I've never looked back. I feel like a bonehead for not having made the change years sooner, although I'll admit that Mac's seem to have matured quite a bit in the past few years.

+1. Yes, you can do everything on a PC that you can on a Mac, but it is so much simpler and more elegant on a Mac! My only regret is not switching 10 years ago.

V.

When I can run OSx on any PC hardware (legally) I will buy it. Until then it is cheaper hardware and Windows for me.

And all the people complaining about viruses and spyware... if my 9 and 11 year old children can work on a windows box without managing to infect it with spyware... so can you.

sjms wrote:
you do realize that as macs become more popular that they too will become targets (and slowly are too). and no there is no built in superimmunity there. at this point just not as fun to do for the darkside because the overall kill is small. stability wise any system is what you make of it. i can kill a mac as fast as a windows setup and proven it in a matter od seconds. the results are just the same.
the fact is is that at this point the most secure and stable is linux. the reason there is the same lack of caring for those who do what they do.

there is no security that is written that cannot be breached with a little thought and effort.


Ben, you didn't include a 'Both' option, which I would have selected.

The above is more true than 99.9% of the mac community/fashionistas realize. Apple's success will breed problems that it's never had to face before. It will be interesting to see how it responds.

As to the 'apple is more elegant/easier/better/simpler to use' argument... maybe it's because I actually know how to use wintel machines, but they're not really any more elegant/easier/better/simpler to use. If Microsoft included the drivers MILLIONS of peripherals it supports (as Apple does with the thousands that it supports), I'm sure this complaint would pretty much disappear. Of course that would be a lot of wasted HD space...and you could always figure out how to install the drivers you need :/

ajkessler wrote:
sjms wrote:
you do realize that as macs become more popular that they too will become targets (and slowly are too). and no there is no built in superimmunity there. at this point just not as fun to do for the darkside because the overall kill is small. stability wise any system is what you make of it. i can kill a mac as fast as a windows setup and proven it in a matter od seconds. the results are just the same.
the fact is is that at this point the most secure and stable is linux. the reason there is the same lack of caring for those who do what they do.

there is no security that is written that cannot be breached with a little thought and effort.


Ben, you didn't include a 'Both' option, which I would have selected.

The above is more true than 99.9% of the mac community/fashionistas realize. Apple's success will breed problems that it's never had to face before. It will be interesting to see how it responds.

As to the 'apple is more elegant/easier/better/simpler to use' argument... maybe it's because I actually know how to use wintel machines, but they're not really any more elegant/easier/better/simpler to use. If Microsoft included the drivers MILLIONS of peripherals it supports (as Apple does with the thousands that it supports), I'm sure this complaint would pretty much disappear. Of course that would be a lot of wasted HD space...and you could always figure out how to install the drivers you need :/


Since OSX is less mainstream, there are some definite advantages as far as there not being many viruses, etc written for it. You are correct that it will change at some point when the popularity increases. That's one of the reasons why I bought my current macs just before they went to the intel based processors ---- I wanted to sit in the sidelines and watch what happened before jumping into the intel based computers. That being said, the intel chips alone didn't lead to more issues. You never know though....

This poll has been pretty much what I figured --- more PC owners than Mac. However, the percentage of Mac owners is quite high since we are dealing with the creative field here, where macs are more popular.


I have started a second poll as well. It is a similar topic, though a fair amount different. My other post asks user preference based on their experiences with PC and Mac platforms.

Ben Horne wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I'm posting a poll to see Windows (PC) vs Mac owners. To keep it simple, I am excluding Unix, Linux, etc. You guys can go sit in the corner.

Linux and various Unix (-like) OSs run on PCs. There's no need to equate "Windows" with "PC".

cogitech wrote:
Ben Horne wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I'm posting a poll to see Windows (PC) vs Mac owners. To keep it simple, I am excluding Unix, Linux, etc. You guys can go sit in the corner.

Linux and various Unix (-like) OSs run on PCs. There's no need to equate "Windows" with "PC".


I'm very well aware of that. However, as I stated in the first post, I'm trying to limit this just to Windows based machines, and OSX based machines since those are the majority of the users. Adding in all the sub options for unix, linux, etc would overcomplicate the poll.

So lump us in with PC users, then.

I own and use both . . . I like the Mac for my PP

cogitech wrote:
So lump us in with PC users, then.


My reason for using just windows is because of the known problems with it --- vulnerabilities to viruses, spyware, adware, etc. Are you still sure you want to be lumped into that?

Ben Horne wrote:
cogitech wrote:
So lump us in with PC users, then.


My reason for using just windows is because of the known problems with it --- vulnerabilities to viruses, spyware, adware, etc. Are you still sure you want to be lumped into that?

Well, if we are running Linux or FreeBSD, we certainly aren't likely to be running a Mac, are we?

I say "not likely", because I do have 1 Mac that I run Linux on. (Yes, I dislike OS X that much)

BTW, there are many more Linux users than you think there are, or so it seems.

Wanna be different, run sparc based architecture Otherwise, you are PC or Mac based people. And to be honest, could say people with the new new macs just have a case now with the intel inside macs and are just PC's that run Apple OS's, but that would be mean.


Besides, including linux/unix by itself would piss off the solaris people and linux people. Tack on free bsd as a *nix collective and we'd have a full blown geek fight as all say they shouldn't be associated with the other. Poll would be like half a page at some point to make everyone happy


Run sparc based solaris and PC windows and ubuntu at home. See and use macs at work when I work with customers who have one. That be a poll option from hell to write up lol. No vote FTW...

Where is the Amiga option!

I have both